February 2005 - Installer-dev

What is the unit for IFPkgFlagInstalledSize?
by Stéphane Sudre 23 Feb '05

23 Feb '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com In the Info.plist, IFPkgFlagInstalledSize is stating: 30718. So we're not dealing with bytes, or KiloBytes. Any idea? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Would someone know what the unit is supposed to be for the IFPkgFlagInstalledSize? It's one of the undocumented flags you can find in some Info.plist and for which the unit seems to come from another galaxy. For instance, in the Safari 1.2 package, the archive weights 21.3 (or 21.8) MB uncompressed. In iTunes 4.something package, we have an archive of 26.1 (or 26.5) MB uncompressed and IFPkgFlagInstalledSize is stating: 27846. In this case, this could be some kind of KiloBytes but not the official one. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Two PackageMaker problems
by Christopher Ryan 23 Feb '05

23 Feb '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Chris Hi Matt, Thanks for the quick (like 2 minutes later...yikes!) response. Yeah, I'm doing the same thing. It's really lame that we should have to do this. Take care, Steve -----Original Message----- From: Matt DeFoor [mailto:mattd@myrealbox.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:54 AM To: Steve Johnson; installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Subject: Re: Two PackageMaker problems folders into which they install, even though I have 'IFPkgFlagOverwritePermissions' flag set to 'false'. For example, /usr, /local, and /bin. I've tried building packages both from the command line and using the PackageMaker GUI, with the same results. This seems so fundamentally busted, that I figure I must be missing something. Please HELP!!! I use a postinstall shell script to solve these sorts of problems. Cheers, Matt _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/ryanc%40apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… In what version of Mac OS X are you seeing this? This shouldn't be necessary. So have you had this particular problem? Do you just set the permissions back to the usual defaults, or do you go through the trouble of saving the exact state of these dirs before installing, and then restoring them back to exactly what they were before. I guess I'm wondering if someone would ever want to change the default permissions on these dirs, and therefore be pissed when my installer restores the default settings. Does Apple know about this problem? 1) My installers clobber the ownership and permission flags of the root if I install in /usr/local/bin, my installer changes the permissions on /, This email sent to ryanc(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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RE: Two PackageMaker problems
by Steve Johnson 23 Feb '05

23 Feb '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AcUZyHYlX4AsB3rnQ3WmjOpmq4uVFgAAAf3w Thread-topic: Two PackageMaker problems Hi Matt, Thanks for the quick (like 2 minutes later...yikes!) response. Yeah, I'm doing the same thing. It's really lame that we should have to do this. So have you had this particular problem? Do you just set the permissions back to the usual defaults, or do you go through the trouble of saving the exact state of these dirs before installing, and then restoring them back to exactly what they were before. I guess I'm wondering if someone would ever want to change the default permissions on these dirs, and therefore be pissed when my installer restores the default settings. Does Apple know about this problem? Take care, Steve > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt DeFoor [mailto:mattd@myrealbox.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:54 AM > To: Steve Johnson; installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com > Subject: Re: Two PackageMaker problems > > > 1) My installers clobber the ownership and permission flags of the root > > folders into which they install, even though I have > > 'IFPkgFlagOverwritePermissions' flag set to 'false'. For example, if I > > install in /usr/local/bin, my installer changes the permissions on /, > > /usr, /local, and /bin. I've tried building packages both from the > > command line and using the PackageMaker GUI, with the same results. > > This seems so fundamentally busted, that I figure I must be missing > > something. Please HELP!!! > > I use a postinstall shell script to solve these sorts of problems. > > Cheers, > Matt _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Two PackageMaker problems
by Matt DeFoor 23 Feb '05

23 Feb '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com > 1) My installers clobber the ownership and permission flags of the root > folders into which they install, even though I have > 'IFPkgFlagOverwritePermissions' flag set to 'false'. For example, if I > install in /usr/local/bin, my installer changes the permissions on /, > /usr, /local, and /bin. I've tried building packages both from the > command line and using the PackageMaker GUI, with the same results. > This seems so fundamentally busted, that I figure I must be missing > something. Please HELP!!! I use a postinstall shell script to solve these sorts of problems. Cheers, Matt _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Two PackageMaker problems
by Steve Johnson 23 Feb '05

23 Feb '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AcUZx9f2U4hLoT8TQnaphchy6hlzBA== Thread-topic: Two PackageMaker problems Greetings, I'm having two significant problems with PackageMaker... 1) My installers clobber the ownership and permission flags of the root folders into which they install, even though I have 'IFPkgFlagOverwritePermissions' flag set to 'false'. For example, if I install in /usr/local/bin, my installer changes the permissions on /, /usr, /local, and /bin. I've tried building packages both from the command line and using the PackageMaker GUI, with the same results. This seems so fundamentally busted, that I figure I must be missing something. Please HELP!!! 2) I've got one particular installer that I can't build on the command line. When I run PackageMaker, the tool runs, but never returns and never produces any output. I've let it run for hours. I can build the same package using the GUI tool without a problem. If anyone can shed any light on either of these issues, I'd greatly appreciate it. Have fun, Steve _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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RE: PackageMaker bug?
by Akhilesh Patel 17 Feb '05

17 Feb '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Actually the problem with the scripting to kill it solution is that the DiskManagementTool is run as setuid root. We don't build it using root for security reasons. Therefore it would require intervention to kill the process. -----Original Message----- From: Alexey Proskuryakov [mailto:ap-carbon@rambler.ru] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 12:17 AM To: Akhilesh Patel; installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Subject: Re: PackageMaker bug? On 17.02.2005 03:51, "Akhilesh Patel" <APatel(a)ixiacom.com> wrote: > I¹ve been having the same problem as discussed on the following thread: I also see this problem (no, I didn't file a bug, because it doesn't really bother me). > http://lists.apple.com/archives/installer-dev/2004/Nov/msg00014.html > > I don¹t know if anyone has made some progress to solving it because it really > holding up my development. I run a remote PackageMaker through ssh from a > window machine. The problem is that because DiskManagementTool fails to exit, > then so sshd also fails to exit and therefore the whole compilation process > cannot continue without manual intervention which is never ideal. Anyone know > a solution to this? Why not kill DiskManagementTool automatically from your build script? Some precautions should be of course taken, such as giving it some time to finish whatever it is doing, and checking if it indeed was launched from the same login session. - WBR, Alexey Proskuryakov _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: PackageMaker bug?
by Alexey Proskuryakov 17 Feb '05

17 Feb '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.0.0.040405 On 17.02.2005 03:51, "Akhilesh Patel" <APatel(a)ixiacom.com> wrote: > I¹ve been having the same problem as discussed on the following thread: I also see this problem (no, I didn't file a bug, because it doesn't really bother me). > http://lists.apple.com/archives/installer-dev/2004/Nov/msg00014.html > > I don¹t know if anyone has made some progress to solving it because it really > holding up my development. I run a remote PackageMaker through ssh from a > window machine. The problem is that because DiskManagementTool fails to exit, > then so sshd also fails to exit and therefore the whole compilation process > cannot continue without manual intervention which is never ideal. Anyone know > a solution to this? Why not kill DiskManagementTool automatically from your build script? Some precautions should be of course taken, such as giving it some time to finish whatever it is doing, and checking if it indeed was launched from the same login session. - WBR, Alexey Proskuryakov _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: PackageMaker bug?
by Akhilesh Patel 17 Feb '05

17 Feb '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: PackageMaker/IceBerg - build failed / insufficient privilieges
by Stéphane Sudre 07 Feb '05

07 Feb '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On lundi, février 7, 2005, at 09:18 PM, Kristian W. Marcroft wrote: Hi list, I'm new to MacOS but I'd like to get to know this system a bit more. To my problem... User 'unknown' is working. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I have programmed some software, which is located in /usr/local/foobar No /usr/local/foobar has many Sub-folders..and files. Some files have and need other user/group privilieges. Most Files belong to "root" and group "wheel" Now some files really need to be owned by the user nobody. So I changed the rights to the user "nobody" but now the Package wont build. The problem is the above which is the PackageMaker nor Iceberg doesn't like the files I changed the user on. I actually prefer Iceberg for creating pkgs. I've tried with PackageMaker and Iceberg both started with the user root... but I just can't figure it out... Maybe someone here can help? Please? It looks like the problem is coming from the pax tool which does not like user 'nobody'. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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PackageMaker/IceBerg - build failed / insufficient privilieges
by Kristian W. Marcroft 07 Feb '05

07 Feb '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) Hi list, I'm new to MacOS but I'd like to get to know this system a bit more. To my problem... I actually prefer Iceberg for creating pkgs. I've tried with PackageMaker and Iceberg both started with the user root... but I just can't figure it out... Maybe someone here can help? Please? Thanks So long KriS _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I have programmed some software, which is located in /usr/local/foobar No /usr/local/foobar has many Sub-folders..and files. Some files have and need other user/group privilieges. Most Files belong to "root" and group "wheel" Now some files really need to be owned by the user nobody. So I changed the rights to the user "nobody" but now the Package wont build. The problem is the above which is the PackageMaker nor Iceberg doesn't like the files I changed the user on. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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