April 2005 - Installer-dev - lists.apple.com

Re: New Software Distribution documentation?
by Peter Bierman 30 Apr '05

30 Apr '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com The documentation is lacking a bunch of '.' to end sentences. Thanks for the note, I'll pass it on. Fixed exactly 2345 bugs? ;-) I'm not sure where you mean for this... -pmb _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… At 8:16 AM +0200 4/30/05, Stéphane Sudre wrote: * It looks like that since Apple added some HD movies to the QuickTime Trailers, they are also trying to reduce the size of other parts of their web site (or may the . key is broken on someone's keyboard): Ex: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/DeveloperTools/Conceptual/Software… CFBundleIdentifier requireddata type: stringdefault value: noneexample: "com.mycompany.mygreatapplication"A unique identifier string for the bundle. It should be in the form of a Java-style package name. For more information, see "Property List Key Reference" in Runtime Configuration. * I don't understand when and why the IFMajorVersion and IFMinorVersion keys are not used anymore. This is becoming a bit messy: In the 10.1 format, the Version field of the .info was just there to take some real estate apparently. In the 10.2 format on 10.2, it was still not used AFAIK and the IFMajorVersion and IFMinorVersion were introduced. Additionally, a package_version file was stealthily introduced later. And now, these flags are not used anymore as I suspect this is the new version field which is to be used. What was wrong with the IFMajorVersion and IFMinorVersion keys? Is there a version mechanism that is working from 10.0 to 10.4? The version number situation is muddled indeed. Suffice it to say that there's an important package somewhere out there necessitating each and every oddity. Each time we "finalize" a versioning mechanism, someone abuses it in a way that requires us to maintain the oddities. * It's somehow funny to spend time adding a warning to state that $2, $3 and $4 are not to be trusted in InstallationCheck and one line after to define $RECEIPT_PATH which is probably not going to be part of InstallationCheck for obvious reason. Going forward, we expect most installer packages to use distribution scripts, which simplifies VolumeCheck and InstallationCheck significantly. * "Fixed a number of bugs". Could it be possible to detail this a bit more. Without documenting every single change, we've tried to document the things developers will be most affected by. Notable undocumented changes include the substantial performance improvements we've made, as well as trivial things like spelling or aesthetic changes. Why is there a link to the release note, in the cell after this one and not in this one? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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New Software Distribution documentation?
by Stéphane Sudre 30 Apr '05

30 Apr '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com The documentation is lacking a bunch of '.' to end sentences. Is there a version mechanism that is working from 10.0 to 10.4? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… * It looks like that since Apple added some HD movies to the QuickTime Trailers, they are also trying to reduce the size of other parts of their web site (or may the . key is broken on someone's keyboard): Ex: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/DeveloperTools/Conceptual/ SoftwareDistribution/index.html CFBundleIdentifier requireddata type: stringdefault value: noneexample: “com.mycompany.mygreatapplication”A unique identifier string for the bundle. It should be in the form of a Java-style package name. For more information, see “Property List Key Reference” in Runtime Configuration. * I don't understand when and why the IFMajorVersion and IFMinorVersion keys are not used anymore. This is becoming a bit messy: In the 10.1 format, the Version field of the .info was just there to take some real estate apparently. In the 10.2 format on 10.2, it was still not used AFAIK and the IFMajorVersion and IFMinorVersion were introduced. Additionally, a package_version file was stealthily introduced later. And now, these flags are not used anymore as I suspect this is the new version field which is to be used. What was wrong with the IFMajorVersion and IFMinorVersion keys? * It's somehow funny to spend time adding a warning to state that $2, $3 and $4 are not to be trusted in InstallationCheck and one line after to define $RECEIPT_PATH which is probably not going to be part of InstallationCheck for obvious reason. * "Fixed a number of bugs". Could it be possible to detail this a bit more. Why is there a link to the release note, in the cell after this one and not in this one? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: meta-package created on 10.3 won't install on 10.2
by Stéphane Sudre 28 Apr '05

28 Apr '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com jeudi 28 avril 2005, à 04:11 AM, Matt DeFoor a écrit : _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Stéphane Sudre wrote: On mercredi, avril 27, 2005, at 07:32 PM, Matt DeFoor wrote: I get the following error when trying to install a meta-package on 10.2 that was created (and works fine) on 10.3. "You are not allowed to install the software in the default location on the disk 'Macintosh HD.' Check with the administrator of your computer." The error occurs after the destination drive is chosen (the packages require root volume) and Continue is clicked. I am logged in as the admin user when trying to do the install. Any ideas? Other idea: - is there any file or folder installed in /Applications, /Library? If the answer is yes, do you ask for root or admin authentication and are the permissions correct for those folders and files? I'm installing a folder and subsequent app into /Applications. I do ask for admin authentication. Not root. Are you referring to the folders and files on the that make up the various packages of the meta-package? If so, I'll check the permissions on these and let you know. No, I was just referring to the permissions on the /Applications folder in your pax archive. I've seen installations failed because the permissions were not root:admin 775 on this folder. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: meta-package created on 10.3 won't install on 10.2
by Christopher Ryan 28 Apr '05

28 Apr '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com How many packages are in the meta package? What are the privileges of each package? Are any of them relocatable? If so, which ones? Chris Stéphane Sudre wrote: On mercredi, avril 27, 2005, at 07:32 PM, Matt DeFoor wrote: Any ideas? Cheers, Matt _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I get the following error when trying to install a meta-package on 10.2 that was created (and works fine) on 10.3. "You are not allowed to install the software in the default location on the disk 'Macintosh HD.' Check with the administrator of your computer." The error occurs after the destination drive is chosen (the packages require root volume) and Continue is clicked. I am logged in as the admin user when trying to do the install. Other idea: - is there any file or folder installed in /Applications, / Library? If the answer is yes, do you ask for root or admin authentication and are the permissions correct for those folders and files? I'm installing a folder and subsequent app into /Applications. I do ask for admin authentication. Not root. Are you referring to the folders and files on the that make up the various packages of the meta-package? If so, I'll check the permissions on these and let you know. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: meta-package created on 10.3 won't install on 10.2
by Matt DeFoor 28 Apr '05

28 Apr '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) On mercredi, avril 27, 2005, at 07:32 PM, Matt DeFoor wrote: Other idea: Cheers, Matt _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Stéphane Sudre wrote: I get the following error when trying to install a meta-package on 10.2 that was created (and works fine) on 10.3. "You are not allowed to install the software in the default location on the disk 'Macintosh HD.' Check with the administrator of your computer." The error occurs after the destination drive is chosen (the packages require root volume) and Continue is clicked. I am logged in as the admin user when trying to do the install. Any ideas? - is there any file or folder installed in /Applications, /Library? If the answer is yes, do you ask for root or admin authentication and are the permissions correct for those folders and files? I'm installing a folder and subsequent app into /Applications. I do ask for admin authentication. Not root. Are you referring to the folders and files on the that make up the various packages of the meta-package? If so, I'll check the permissions on these and let you know. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: meta-package created on 10.3 won't install on 10.2
by Matt DeFoor 28 Apr '05

28 Apr '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) On mercredi, avril 27, 2005, at 07:32 PM, Matt DeFoor wrote: When this occurs, does it work if you: 1. click on Go Back 2. click on Continue This had the same result. -matt _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Stéphane Sudre wrote: I get the following error when trying to install a meta-package on 10.2 that was created (and works fine) on 10.3. "You are not allowed to install the software in the default location on the disk 'Macintosh HD.' Check with the administrator of your computer." The error occurs after the destination drive is chosen (the packages require root volume) and Continue is clicked. I am logged in as the admin user when trying to do the install. Any ideas? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: meta-package created on 10.3 won't install on 10.2
by Stéphane Sudre 27 Apr '05

27 Apr '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On mercredi, avril 27, 2005, at 07:32 PM, Matt DeFoor wrote: Other idea: _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I get the following error when trying to install a meta-package on 10.2 that was created (and works fine) on 10.3. "You are not allowed to install the software in the default location on the disk 'Macintosh HD.' Check with the administrator of your computer." The error occurs after the destination drive is chosen (the packages require root volume) and Continue is clicked. I am logged in as the admin user when trying to do the install. Any ideas? - is there any file or folder installed in /Applications, /Library? If the answer is yes, do you ask for root or admin authentication and are the permissions correct for those folders and files? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: meta-package created on 10.3 won't install on 10.2
by Stéphane Sudre 27 Apr '05

27 Apr '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On mercredi, avril 27, 2005, at 07:32 PM, Matt DeFoor wrote: When this occurs, does it work if you: 1. click on Go Back 2. click on Continue ? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I get the following error when trying to install a meta-package on 10.2 that was created (and works fine) on 10.3. "You are not allowed to install the software in the default location on the disk 'Macintosh HD.' Check with the administrator of your computer." The error occurs after the destination drive is chosen (the packages require root volume) and Continue is clicked. I am logged in as the admin user when trying to do the install. Any ideas? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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meta-package created on 10.3 won't install on 10.2
by Matt DeFoor 27 Apr '05

27 Apr '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) Any ideas? -- /* Matt DeFoor */ Listening to the sound of silence _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I get the following error when trying to install a meta-package on 10.2 that was created (and works fine) on 10.3. "You are not allowed to install the software in the default location on the disk 'Macintosh HD.' Check with the administrator of your computer." The error occurs after the destination drive is chosen (the packages require root volume) and Continue is clicked. I am logged in as the admin user when trying to do the install. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: signing/verifying applications
by Peter Bierman 20 Apr '05

20 Apr '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Not currently. -pmb _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… At 11:29 AM -0700 4/20/05, Rich Kubota wrote: In the Windows environment, there is the ability to sign and verify applications before they are installed. Is there a similar function available with PackageMaker/Installer. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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