November 2006 - Installer-dev

Re: IDMI?
by Alexander v. Below 04 Nov '06

04 Nov '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Am 02.11.2006 um 22:06 schrieb Stéphane Sudre: IDMI: Internet Disk Image Made Incompatible. 1) On an Intel iMac running 10.4.8, open Disk Utiltiy 2) Create a 2.5 MB Read Write Disk Image 3) Transfer Image by network to PowerMac G3 running 10.2.8 4) On a PowerMac G3 running 10.2.8 open disk image Result: Disk Image opens Alex _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… One of my colleagues reported that Disk Image made on Mac Intel (or Intel Mac) are not compatible with Mac OS X 10.2. As my little machine park makes it rather easy for me to try this, I did: Something else must be the problem, unless these are not the correct steps to reproduce your problem This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: dock shortcut with packagemaker
by Steven Lobo 04 Nov '06

04 Nov '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: Acb/tWLloVxxkGuoEduGDQANk6659g== Thread-topic: dock shortcut with packagemaker User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.5.060620 The iLife apps get added to the dock. You might want to check the iMovie/iLife receipts and see if you find something useful there. Steven On 11/3/06 2:18 PM, "Geoffrey K. O'Brien" <geoffreykobrien(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Would you care to share an example? In the past I have just pushed a new > com.apple.dock.plist but this isn't always the best solution. > > > On Nov 3, 2006, at 4:52 PM, Stéphane Sudre wrote: > >> >> On vendredi, novembre 3, 2006, at 04:03 PM, Alex Ivanov wrote: >> >> >>> Hello! >>> >>> >>> Is it possible to create a dock shortcut for an application, using >>> packagemaker? >>> >> >> Yes and no. >> >> No, PackageMaker does not provide such a feature. >> >> Yes, you can do it from a postflight script. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/geoffreykobrien%40gmail. >> com >> >> This email sent to geoffreykobrien(a)gmail.com >> > > > Geoffrey K. O'Brien > GeoffreyKOBrien(a)gmail.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/steven%40robosoftin.com > > This email sent to steven(a)robosoftin.com ----------------------------------------------- Robosoft Technologies - Come home to Technology _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: dock shortcut with packagemaker
by Geoffrey K. O'Brien 03 Nov '06

03 Nov '06

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Re: dock shortcut with packagemaker
by Stéphane Sudre 03 Nov '06

03 Nov '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On vendredi, novembre 3, 2006, at 04:03 PM, Alex Ivanov wrote: Yes and no. No, PackageMaker does not provide such a feature. Yes, you can do it from a postflight script. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Hello! Is it possible to create a dock shortcut for an application, using packagemaker? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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dock shortcut with packagemaker
by Alex Ivanov 03 Nov '06

03 Nov '06

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IDMI?
by Stéphane Sudre 02 Nov '06

02 Nov '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com IDMI: Internet Disk Image Made Incompatible. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… One of my colleagues reported that Disk Image made on Mac Intel (or Intel Mac) are not compatible with Mac OS X 10.2. Is this a known issue? And if it is, is there a workaround? Apparently, you can't fix a Disk Image made on an Intel Mac. I know there were a bug with some 10.1 or 10.2 releases where compressed Disk Image would crash Disk Copy but I've never heard (or find google results) about this incompatibility issue. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Re[4]: Finding the current OS language via distributions
by Stéphane Sudre 01 Nov '06

01 Nov '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On mercredi, novembre 1, 2006, at 09:56 PM, Luke Bellandi wrote: _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… [...] You could write a light-weight tool in Cocoa (or whatever your favorite-flavored UI is) that would pop up an alert dialog indicating that the installer is performing some modal operation that is blocking the actual package install (which is, in fact, what you're doing by putting your installer in a package) and having that alert dialog indicate its progress with a progress bar. While Cocoa is great, the CFUserNotification API may be better as, if I'm not completely wrong, it can write to the console when there is no UI. So this solution could work for both visual and command line installation. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Re[4]: Finding the current OS language via distributions
by Luke Bellandi 01 Nov '06

01 Nov '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi Peter, On Nov 1, 2006, at 8:28 AM, Peter Mulholland wrote: Hello Luke, Wednesday, November 1, 2006, 3:26:34 PM, you wrote: We're aware of this limitation of the Installer (not being able to provide feedback from installer scripts as to their duration) and we've got it documented as work we'll hope to address soon. Will this feature be pushed back into previous installer versions, or only in 10.5 ? If you don't push it back, it's not going to be much use. Okay then, you say, so what *can* we do on this list? >From your 31 October, 2006 email to this list: > Our solution to this problem in future, unfortunately, has been to > write a custom installer tool. Best, Luke -- Best regards, Peter mailto:darkmatter@freeuk.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/luke%40apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Hi Peter, <snip> I never said this would be available in 10.5. As we often say on this list, we can't comment on work that we're currently doing, nor can we make forward-looking statements about a particular feature/bug-fix/ enhancement's availability. Let's look at your problem holistically here, and the resources you have available to you to solve that problem: > Yep, I've just done a title for a games company where this is an > issue. The only content installed by the package itself is the game's > .app - the game's data is extracted into the app during postflight using > 7-Zip as this was the only way to get it to fit onto CD. We have already > had people asking if the installer is hanging as it can take up to 10 > minutes for the content to decompress. You could write a light-weight tool in Cocoa (or whatever your favorite-flavored UI is) that would pop up an alert dialog indicating that the installer is performing some modal operation that is blocking the actual package install (which is, in fact, what you're doing by putting your installer in a package) and having that alert dialog indicate its progress with a progress bar. Once complete the alert can be disposed of, and the Installer will come to the foreground and its progress bar will continue along. The user-experience would be more coherent if we can integrate script- durations into the Installer's single progress bar -- I think we can all agree on that. However, writing an indicator tool to publish to status of your script's work-in-progress solves your problem of having a confused user think their install is hung. This email sent to luke(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re[4]: Finding the current OS language via distributions
by Peter Mulholland 01 Nov '06

01 Nov '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hello Luke, Wednesday, November 1, 2006, 3:26:34 PM, you wrote: > Hi Peter, <snip> > We're aware of this limitation of the Installer (not being able to > provide feedback from installer scripts as to their duration) and > we've got it documented as work we'll hope to address soon. Will this feature be pushed back into previous installer versions, or only in 10.5 ? If you don't push it back, it's not going to be much use. -- Best regards, Peter mailto:darkmatter@freeuk.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Re[2]: Finding the current OS language via distributions
by Luke Bellandi 01 Nov '06

01 Nov '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi Peter, On Oct 31, 2006, at 3:07 AM, Peter Mulholland wrote: <snip> - Luke Our solution to this problem in future, unfortunately, has been to write a custom installer tool. -- Best regards, Peter mailto:darkmatter@freeuk.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/luke%40apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Yep, I've just done a title for a games company where this is an issue. The only content installed by the package itself is the game's .app - the game's data is extracted into the app during postflight using 7-Zip as this was the only way to get it to fit onto CD. We have already had people asking if the installer is hanging as it can take up to 10 minutes for the content to decompress. We're aware of this limitation of the Installer (not being able to provide feedback from installer scripts as to their duration) and we've got it documented as work we'll hope to address soon. This email sent to luke(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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