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Re: Frustrated in installing Jaguar for testing purpose
by Stéphane Sudre 31 May '06

31 May '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On mercredi, mai 31, 2006, at 04:41 PM, Chen Wang wrote: The versions repartition was given along with projections for June 2006. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Thanks Alex and all others for the suggestions. It sounds strongly reasonable that development projects should target to the latest release of an OS version. I’m also wondering how many people are still using old OS X system (not including classic), because it happened to me quite often that one function with hundreds lines of code (LOC) in Jaguar might cost less than twenty LOC in Panther. Sorry, I know I should ask this question to the marketing department but not hereJ Check the pie charts from the WWDC 2005 Keynote (available on www.apple.com in the quicktime section). This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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RE: Frustrated in installing Jaguar for testing purpose
by Chen Wang 31 May '06

31 May '06

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Re: Checking for minimum OS for installation
by Geoffrey Hutchison 31 May '06

31 May '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On May 31, 2006, at 9:12 AM, Lori Desmarais wrote: http://lists.apple.com/archives/Installer-dev/2006/May/msg00053.html Cheers, -Geoff _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I need to put a check into my packagemaker installer that will only let the user installer on 10.4.6 or greater OS. ... my .pkg keeps failing to allow me to install saying "Make sure your system meets the requirements", Well, I ran into a similar issue -- it seems like the PackageMaker.app doesn't let you use a plist check: <array> <dict> <key>Level</key> <string>requires</string> <key>MessageKey</key> <string>You must update to Mac OS X v10.4 before installing this software.</string> <key>SpecArgument</key> <string>/System/Library/CoreServices/ SystemVersion.plist</string> <key>SpecProperty</key> <string>ProductVersion</string> <key>SpecType</key> <string>plist</string> <key>TestObject</key> <string>10.4.6</string> <key>TestOperator</key> <string>ge</string> <key>TitleKey</key> <string>Cannot be installed on this computer.</string> </dict> </array> Alternatively, Stéphane Sudre suggested: Since Requirements are only supported with Mac OS X 10.3 and later, it may be wiser to test this using an InstallationCheck or VolumeCheck script. This way it will also prevent installation on Mac OS X 10.2.8 and earlier. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Checking for minimum OS for installation
by Lori Desmarais 31 May '06

31 May '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi- I'm currently using packagmaker 2.1 (on a 10.4.6 system) I've added the following into my Info.plist: <key>IFRequirementDicts</key> <array> <dict> <key>LabelKey</key> <string>Minimum_OS</string> <key>Level</key> <string>requires</string> <key>SpecArgument</key> <string>kern.osrelease</string> <key>SpecType</key> <string>sysctl</string> <key>TestObject</key> <string>8.5</string> <key>TestOperator</key> <string>>=</string> </dict> </array> Any pointers to what I'm doing wrong??? thank you, Lori Desmarais Release Engineering Avid Technology, Inc. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I need to put a check into my packagemaker installer that will only let the user installer on 10.4.6 or greater OS. For the TestOperator, I've tried using >= , >= and ge. my .pkg keeps failing to allow me to install saying "Make sure your system meets the requirements", This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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RE: packagemaker install, running instances
by Alex Sheh 31 May '06

31 May '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AcaED9+vKElKVTHITIS+/cf3zfCfEgAM0SnA Thread-topic: packagemaker install, running instances Thanks Bill, that method works nicely. The potential nib-binary mismatch is indeed reason to quit the apps. - Alex -----Original Message----- From: Bill Coderre [mailto:bc@apple.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 10:39 AM To: Alex Sheh Cc: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Subject: Re: packagemaker install, running instances On May 30, 2006, at 10:18 AM, Alex Sheh wrote: > Does the PackageMaker installer handle contention between a currently > running program (which may be reading/writing to resources on disk) > and the installer which needs to overwrite the program files > (overwrite the same resources)? Or should I simply always terminate > running instances with a preflight script, or is there some more > standard way to handle this? The way I do it is to detect the program running during InstallationCheck and put up an error asking the user to quit. There was a lot of discussion about this, but in the end, it's simple and clear user interaction. Note that software update does not run InstallationCheck, and preflight is not allowed to return an error. That's why the (ugly) dialog saying "Please Quit" with no way to abort the update. If we could avoid that situation, we would. As for the first part of the question, I am not sure. I do know that we have to quit the app because most apps use Nibs, and most of them do not pre-load the Nibs, but do preload the binary. If the two mismatch, "hilarity" ensues. (ie. the "quit" menu item no longer works, etc.) _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Frustrated in installing Jaguar for testing purpose
by Alexander von Below 31 May '06

31 May '06

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Re: Frustrated in installing Jaguar for testing purpose
by Stéphane Sudre 30 May '06

30 May '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On mardi, mai 30, 2006, at 09:53 PM, Chen Wang wrote: Yes. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Since this a common issue in software test, I would like to know how developers here test your applications that is targeted to an older OS version? Do you always keep an old Macintosh computer for testing purpose? If so, may I know which Macintosh model (G3, G4?) would be the best for running major releases of Jaguar (Mac OS 10.2.0 ~ 10.2.8)? For my part, I'm still using a G4 450 MP with 10.2.8 as my main computer so I can recommend this machine. It has been able to run Mac OS X since the Public Paying Beta. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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RE: Frustrated in installing Jaguar for testing purpose
by Chen Wang 30 May '06

30 May '06

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RE: Frustrated in installing Jaguar for testing purpose
by Chen Wang 30 May '06

30 May '06

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RE: Frustrated in installing Jaguar for testing purpose
by Chen Wang 30 May '06

30 May '06

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