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Re: Installer on Mac
by Bill Coderre 14 May '06

14 May '06

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FW: Installer on Mac
by Lieven Cardoen 13 May '06

13 May '06

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Re: Installer on Mac
by Andy O'Meara 13 May '06

13 May '06

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RE: Bundle bit not set
by Peter Bierman 12 May '06

12 May '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com At 2:20 PM -0700 5/12/06, Raymond Walsh wrote: Nope. Dev tools are only there if the user installs them, and most users don't. -pmb _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… One user "copied" the folder of an Internet plugin and copied the "contents" of my .bundle and magically it started working (that is to say: started being loaded by iTunes) Yeah, this implies to me that something about the folder structure of your bundle isn't valid. Is it safe to assume that the developer tools (such as SetFile) are available on all 10.3+ installations, barring the user deleting/uninstalling)? You do not want to use this band-aid anyway; you'll be much better off if you can figure out how your bundle should be laid out. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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RE: Bundle bit not set
by Raymond Walsh 12 May '06

12 May '06

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Re: Installer on Mac
by Peter Bierman 12 May '06

12 May '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com -pmb _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… At 1:28 PM +0200 5/12/06, Lieven Cardoen wrote: yes, make a bundle put it on a nicely layouted diskimage, which opens automatically, and leave it to the user to drag the application, where the user considers appropriately. that's the way it is supposed to work on OSX. installers are only necessary, if you want to actually install system services, but an application should simply be a drag and drop install, wherever I like it to live on my HD. I think the average mac user is not only used to that, but also capable of drag installing an app and might even be offended, if you treat him as being too stupid to drag install an application. I'd even go one step further: a simple application, which needs an installer is something, which I usually don't even install, as I think, that it is looking for trouble to run applications, which were made by developers, which don't even know the basics of my OS. It seems Mac-users don't like the idea of an installer. Is this true? I think Mac users prefer simple drag-installable apps. Using a Disk Image is the most direct route, but there's nothing wrong with using a full blown installer if you think your users would be more comfortable with the hand-holding that provides. Even with an 'installer' though, most Mac users will expect that your application can be simply copied from one machine to another and run. Using an installer to scatter auxiliary files all over the system is considered poor form. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Bundle bit not set
by Peter Bierman 12 May '06

12 May '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com 2. Have the user run "SetFile -a B" -- Is the SetFile command included on all 10.3+ machines? -- -- I could add the SetFile in the postflight script probably. -pmb _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… At 9:46 AM -0700 5/5/06, Raymond Walsh wrote: I am installing an iTunes plug-in (a ".bundle" file) using Iceberg 1.1.6 to generate the pkg. Users are reporting very frequently that the double-clicking on the bundle file "opens like a folder." So I suspect the OS is not registering it as a bundle. -- When iTunes fails to load the plugin, I have them locate the bundle file and dub-click it to test whether it is a bundle or a folder. Once the user manages to make the OS "bundle-ify" the file, iTunes will load the plugin. I have seen two on-topic suggestions for this: 1. Be sure the PkgInfo is inside the bundle. I am sure it is inside the bundle's contents folder. --x.bundle/ \--Contents/ \-- Info.plist \-- PkgInfo \-- Resources/ \-- MacOS/ Is there some other way to make sure that the Bundle Bit is set when installing a ".bundle" ? Well, the bundle bit is not necessary for the OS to treat a folder as a bundle. It's just one of many ways the OS will decide the folder is a bundle. Unfortunately, I don't know why your bundle isn't being recognized as one. If setting the bundle bit is the only way your bundle gets detected, then something is incorrect about your bundle structure, because the bit should not be necessary. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Installer on Mac
by Christopher Ryan 12 May '06

12 May '06

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Re: Getting the target path in Installer Plugin
by Michel Cunha 12 May '06

12 May '06

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Installer on Mac
by Lieven Cardoen 12 May '06

12 May '06

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