August 2006 - Installer-dev

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by Dylan.Hyndman＠cumbria.ac.uk 31 Aug '06

31 Aug '06

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Re: Distribution package user options
by Michael Wu 31 Aug '06

31 Aug '06

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Re: Distribution package user options
by Luke Bellandi 31 Aug '06

31 Aug '06

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Re: Distribution package user options
by Michael Wu 31 Aug '06

31 Aug '06

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Re: Distribution package user options
by Luke Bellandi 30 Aug '06

30 Aug '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi Michael, Hope that helps, Luke On Aug 30, 2006, at 4:04 PM, Michael Wu wrote: Michael Wu _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/luke%40apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… So if I understand correctly, you have a UI plugin that you only want to run on the condition that the user has selected a certain choice for installation in the custom select panel? In the InstallerPlugins.framework, look at InstallerState.h -- it has everything you need. Your plugin will always load, but you can use the information from the InstallerState object to decided whether or not to run specific code in your plugin. After I add a custom pane into the distribution package, is there a way that I know the user did not select the sub-package on the distribution list other than I go look to see if my sub-package has been installed? The distribution package knows not to install the sub-package when the user not check the sub-package installer; however, my custom pane still shows and active. I want to skip my custom pane if my sub-package did not install. This email sent to luke(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Distribution package user options
by Michael Wu 30 Aug '06

30 Aug '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Michael Wu _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… After I add a custom pane into the distribution package, is there a way that I know the user did not select the sub-package on the distribution list other than I go look to see if my sub-package has been installed? The distribution package knows not to install the sub-package when the user not check the sub-package installer; however, my custom pane still shows and active. I want to skip my custom pane if my sub- package did not install. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Parsing the output of the "installer" tool
by Steven Lobo 30 Aug '06

30 Aug '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AcbMVAIHQMWGYjhHEdu4ogANk6659g== Thread-topic: Parsing the output of the "installer" tool User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.4.060510 Done. It's on the radar. Steven On 8/30/06 9:06 AM, "Luke Bellandi" <luke(a)apple.com> wrote: > Hi Steven, > > On Aug 29, 2006, at 10:30 PM, Steven Lobo wrote: > >> Thanks Luke... >> >> Regarding my first query, would it be a safe approach to parse out the >> output of the "installer" command line tool and update my software >> updater's >> progress UI and strings accordingly ? I am envisioning the scenario >> from the >> point of view of a new future Apple OS release that could potentially >> require me to provide an update for my software (e.g. say new >> features that >> can be supported for that OS) via my software updater. In case I >> rely on the >> installer tool's output for updating my software updater's user >> interface, I >> would like to know if the approach of parsing out the command line >> "installer" tool's output and updating the updater UI would work >> even then. >> Or, is there any other safer approach that is recommended ? > > We can't promise that the text-output format won't change. > > File an enhancement request for install-progress notifications to be > issued during an install at http://bugreporter.apple.com. > > - Luke > >> Steven >> >> >> On 8/29/06 10:39 AM, "Luke Bellandi" <luke(a)apple.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Steven, >>> >>> On Aug 28, 2006, at 10:01 PM, Steven Lobo wrote: >>> >>>> Hi: >>>> >>>> I provide a software update feature in my software UI that currently >>>> checks >>>> for updates from a server, downloads updates if necessary and >>>> installs the >>>> same. My update software is packaged as a Packagemaker package/ >>>> metapackage. >>>> Once the package is downloaded, I execute the package using the >>>> command line >>>> "installer" tool from my software UI (via NSTask) similar to >>>> this.... >>>> >>>> installer -pkg /My_Package_Source_Path -target >>>> My_Package_Destination_Path >>>> -verboseR >>>> >>>> The install status output that I receive is as follows >>>> >>>> installer: Package name is My Great App >>>> installer: Upgrading at base path / >>>> installer:PHASE:Preparing for installation >>>> installer:PHASE:Preparing the Disk >>>> installer:STATUS:Preparing Target Volume >>>> installer:%0.010000 >>>> installer:PHASE:Preparing My Great App >>>> installer:STATUS: >>>> installer:PHASE:Installing My Great App >>>> installer:STATUS: >>>> installer:STATUS:Configuring Installation >>>> installer:STATUS:Validating package >>>> installer:STATUS:Writing files >>>> installer:%0.295857 >>>> installer:STATUS:Writing package receipt >>>> installer:%0.884000 >>>> installer:PHASE:Finishing Installation >>>> installer:%0.002000 >>>> installer:STATUS:Finishing Installation >>>> installer:%1.000000 >>>> installer:STATUS: >>>> installer:PHASE:The software was successfully installed >>>> installer: The upgrade was successful. >>>> >>>> I plan to asynchronously monitor this output using the NSFileHandle >>>> API's, >>>> parse out the "STATUS:", "PHASE:" and "%" values and accordingly >>>> update a >>>> progress bar in my updater UI. This works out pretty well since most >>>> of the >>>> output is also localized already by the command line tool. >>>> >>>> Queries: >>>> -------- >>>> 1. Is parsing out the "installer" tool's output a recommended >>>> approach or is >>>> there a more reliable approach to handle this ? I could not find >>>> specific >>>> documentation regarding the output and am therefore unsure if such >>>> installer >>>> state parsing is recommended or and will be supported in future OS >>>> releases? >>>> 2. The install percentage value just before installation is finished >>>> is >>>> always "0.002000" (check above). Since this is not in sync with the >>>> rest of >>>> the percentage status provided, I reckon that this indicates some >>>> other >>>> status. What does this signify ? >>> >>> The percentages indicate percent complete for each phase. When the >>> installer notifies you that it's on a new phase, you should reset >>> your >>> percent complete to 0%. >>> >>> - Luke >>> >>>> TIA >>>> >>>> Steven >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----------------------------------------------- >>>> Robosoft Technologies - Come home to Technology >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>> Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) >>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/luke% >>>> 40apple.com >>>> >>>> This email sent to luke(a)apple.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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Re: Parsing the output of the "installer" tool
by Luke Bellandi 30 Aug '06

30 Aug '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi Steven, On Aug 29, 2006, at 10:30 PM, Steven Lobo wrote: Thanks Luke... We can't promise that the text-output format won't change. - Luke Steven On 8/29/06 10:39 AM, "Luke Bellandi" <luke(a)apple.com> wrote: Hi Steven, On Aug 28, 2006, at 10:01 PM, Steven Lobo wrote: Hi: installer -pkg /My_Package_Source_Path -target My_Package_Destination_Path -verboseR The install status output that I receive is as follows installer: Package name is My Great App installer: Upgrading at base path / installer:PHASE:Preparing for installation installer:PHASE:Preparing the Disk installer:STATUS:Preparing Target Volume installer:%0.010000 installer:PHASE:Preparing My Great App installer:STATUS: installer:PHASE:Installing My Great App installer:STATUS: installer:STATUS:Configuring Installation installer:STATUS:Validating package installer:STATUS:Writing files installer:%0.295857 installer:STATUS:Writing package receipt installer:%0.884000 installer:PHASE:Finishing Installation installer:%0.002000 installer:STATUS:Finishing Installation installer:%1.000000 installer:STATUS: installer:PHASE:The software was successfully installed installer: The upgrade was successful. I plan to asynchronously monitor this output using the NSFileHandle API's, parse out the "STATUS:", "PHASE:" and "%" values and accordingly update a progress bar in my updater UI. This works out pretty well since most of the output is also localized already by the command line tool. Queries: -------- 1. Is parsing out the "installer" tool's output a recommended approach or is there a more reliable approach to handle this ? I could not find specific documentation regarding the output and am therefore unsure if such installer state parsing is recommended or and will be supported in future OS releases? 2. The install percentage value just before installation is finished is always "0.002000" (check above). Since this is not in sync with the rest of the percentage status provided, I reckon that this indicates some other status. What does this signify ? - Luke TIA Steven ----------------------------------------------- Robosoft Technologies - Come home to Technology _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/vishnuprasad.kodancha%… obosoftin.com ----------------------------------------------- Robosoft Technologies - Come home to Technology _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Regarding my first query, would it be a safe approach to parse out the output of the "installer" command line tool and update my software updater's progress UI and strings accordingly ? I am envisioning the scenario from the point of view of a new future Apple OS release that could potentially require me to provide an update for my software (e.g. say new features that can be supported for that OS) via my software updater. In case I rely on the installer tool's output for updating my software updater's user interface, I would like to know if the approach of parsing out the command line "installer" tool's output and updating the updater UI would work even then. Or, is there any other safer approach that is recommended ? File an enhancement request for install-progress notifications to be issued during an install at http://bugreporter.apple.com. I provide a software update feature in my software UI that currently checks for updates from a server, downloads updates if necessary and installs the same. My update software is packaged as a Packagemaker package/ metapackage. Once the package is downloaded, I execute the package using the command line "installer" tool from my software UI (via NSTask) similar to this.... The percentages indicate percent complete for each phase. When the installer notifies you that it's on a new phase, you should reset your percent complete to 0%. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/luke% 40apple.com This email sent to luke(a)apple.com This email sent to vishnuprasad.kodancha(a)robosoftin.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Parsing the output of the "installer" tool
by Steven Lobo 30 Aug '06

30 Aug '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AcbL9VYvlPV3GjfoEduktQANk6659g== Thread-topic: Parsing the output of the "installer" tool User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.4.060510 Thanks Luke... Regarding my first query, would it be a safe approach to parse out the output of the "installer" command line tool and update my software updater's progress UI and strings accordingly ? I am envisioning the scenario from the point of view of a new future Apple OS release that could potentially require me to provide an update for my software (e.g. say new features that can be supported for that OS) via my software updater. In case I rely on the installer tool's output for updating my software updater's user interface, I would like to know if the approach of parsing out the command line "installer" tool's output and updating the updater UI would work even then. Or, is there any other safer approach that is recommended ? Steven On 8/29/06 10:39 AM, "Luke Bellandi" <luke(a)apple.com> wrote: > Hi Steven, > > On Aug 28, 2006, at 10:01 PM, Steven Lobo wrote: > >> Hi: >> >> I provide a software update feature in my software UI that currently >> checks >> for updates from a server, downloads updates if necessary and >> installs the >> same. My update software is packaged as a Packagemaker package/ >> metapackage. >> Once the package is downloaded, I execute the package using the >> command line >> "installer" tool from my software UI (via NSTask) similar to this.... >> >> installer -pkg /My_Package_Source_Path -target >> My_Package_Destination_Path >> -verboseR >> >> The install status output that I receive is as follows >> >> installer: Package name is My Great App >> installer: Upgrading at base path / >> installer:PHASE:Preparing for installation >> installer:PHASE:Preparing the Disk >> installer:STATUS:Preparing Target Volume >> installer:%0.010000 >> installer:PHASE:Preparing My Great App >> installer:STATUS: >> installer:PHASE:Installing My Great App >> installer:STATUS: >> installer:STATUS:Configuring Installation >> installer:STATUS:Validating package >> installer:STATUS:Writing files >> installer:%0.295857 >> installer:STATUS:Writing package receipt >> installer:%0.884000 >> installer:PHASE:Finishing Installation >> installer:%0.002000 >> installer:STATUS:Finishing Installation >> installer:%1.000000 >> installer:STATUS: >> installer:PHASE:The software was successfully installed >> installer: The upgrade was successful. >> >> I plan to asynchronously monitor this output using the NSFileHandle >> API's, >> parse out the "STATUS:", "PHASE:" and "%" values and accordingly >> update a >> progress bar in my updater UI. This works out pretty well since most >> of the >> output is also localized already by the command line tool. >> >> Queries: >> -------- >> 1. Is parsing out the "installer" tool's output a recommended >> approach or is >> there a more reliable approach to handle this ? I could not find >> specific >> documentation regarding the output and am therefore unsure if such >> installer >> state parsing is recommended or and will be supported in future OS >> releases? >> 2. The install percentage value just before installation is finished >> is >> always "0.002000" (check above). Since this is not in sync with the >> rest of >> the percentage status provided, I reckon that this indicates some >> other >> status. What does this signify ? > > The percentages indicate percent complete for each phase. When the > installer notifies you that it's on a new phase, you should reset your > percent complete to 0%. > > - Luke > >> TIA >> >> Steven >> >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------- >> Robosoft Technologies - Come home to Technology >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/luke%40apple.com >> >> This email sent to luke(a)apple.com > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/vishnuprasad.kodancha%… > obosoftin.com > > This email sent to vishnuprasad.kodancha(a)robosoftin.com ----------------------------------------------- Robosoft Technologies - Come home to Technology _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Parsing the output of the "installer" tool
by Luke Bellandi 29 Aug '06

29 Aug '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi Steven, On Aug 28, 2006, at 10:01 PM, Steven Lobo wrote: Hi: The install status output that I receive is as follows installer: Package name is My Great App installer: Upgrading at base path / installer:PHASE:Preparing for installation installer:PHASE:Preparing the Disk installer:STATUS:Preparing Target Volume installer:%0.010000 installer:PHASE:Preparing My Great App installer:STATUS: installer:PHASE:Installing My Great App installer:STATUS: installer:STATUS:Configuring Installation installer:STATUS:Validating package installer:STATUS:Writing files installer:%0.295857 installer:STATUS:Writing package receipt installer:%0.884000 installer:PHASE:Finishing Installation installer:%0.002000 installer:STATUS:Finishing Installation installer:%1.000000 installer:STATUS: installer:PHASE:The software was successfully installed installer: The upgrade was successful. - Luke TIA Steven ----------------------------------------------- Robosoft Technologies - Come home to Technology _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/luke%40apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I provide a software update feature in my software UI that currently checks for updates from a server, downloads updates if necessary and installs the same. My update software is packaged as a Packagemaker package/ metapackage. Once the package is downloaded, I execute the package using the command line "installer" tool from my software UI (via NSTask) similar to this.... installer -pkg /My_Package_Source_Path -target My_Package_Destination_Path -verboseR I plan to asynchronously monitor this output using the NSFileHandle API's, parse out the "STATUS:", "PHASE:" and "%" values and accordingly update a progress bar in my updater UI. This works out pretty well since most of the output is also localized already by the command line tool. Queries: -------- 1. Is parsing out the "installer" tool's output a recommended approach or is there a more reliable approach to handle this ? I could not find specific documentation regarding the output and am therefore unsure if such installer state parsing is recommended or and will be supported in future OS releases? 2. The install percentage value just before installation is finished is always "0.002000" (check above). Since this is not in sync with the rest of the percentage status provided, I reckon that this indicates some other status. What does this signify ? The percentages indicate percent complete for each phase. When the installer notifies you that it's on a new phase, you should reset your percent complete to 0%. This email sent to luke(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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