November 2007 - Installer-dev

Re: Installer "diverting" files when package built/installed on 10.5
by Eric Brod 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Nov 30, 2007, at 10:39 AM, Nathan Duran wrote: _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… The script is using same syntax as 10.4. The man page seems to imply that this should be fine, but..... Thanks for the suggestion. Is your build script using the old 10.4 "compatibility mode" syntax or the new 10.5 syntax? I haven't seen this issue in particular before, but I did have tons of bizarre problems until I stopped relying on compatibility mode to do the right thing. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Installer "diverting" files when package built/installed on 10.5
by Scott Russell 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Eric, Best wishes, Scott -- Dr. Scott Russell IT Support Engineer Arts & Letters Computing, Distributed Support Services, Office of Information Technologies, University of Notre Dame Instructor of Horn, University of Notre Dame and Saint Mary's College Assistant Horn, South Bend Symphony Orchestra 234 Decio Hall 574-631-7021 ScottRussell(a)nd.edu http://www.nd.edu/~srussel2/ On Nov 30, 2007, at 1:39 PM, Nathan Duran wrote: _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… It's also possible that they are "Components" that have "Allow relocation" checked by default. This was causing me problems until I found these checkboxes. Now, if only I could KEEP them unchecked from build to build ... Is your build script using the old 10.4 "compatibility mode" syntax or the new 10.5 syntax? I haven't seen this issue in particular before, but I did have tons of bizarre problems until I stopped relying on compatibility mode to do the right thing._______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/scottrussell%40nd.edu This email sent to scottrussell(a)nd.edu This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Installer "diverting" files when package built/installed on 10.5
by Nathan Duran 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Is your build script using the old 10.4 "compatibility mode" syntax or the new 10.5 syntax? I haven't seen this issue in particular before, but I did have tons of bizarre problems until I stopped relying on compatibility mode to do the right thing. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Installer "diverting" files when package built/installed on 10.5
by Eric Brod 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Nov 30, 2007, at 12:03 AM, Stéphane Sudre wrote: On vendredi, novembre 30, 2007, at 06:40 AM, Eric Brod wrote: [...] It would be interesting to test the following thing: Clean /tmp or restart and then install again. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Thanks for the reply. Cleaning the temporary directories and restarting does not correct the problem. And the files never really get installed there anyway. I checked when the installer finished before and after the required reboot. Also, all other installed components (in /Library and /System) install fine. Just the items in /Applications are lost.... The same packaging script works fine when built on OS 10.4 and installed on 10.[45] The Archive.bom contents contain the correct paths when viewed with lsbom. I cannot find any apple docs that talk about the installer "diverting" files. Does anyone know what can cause this crazy behavior??? Because it could be due to relocation automatically applied to your the application bundle within your package. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Installer "diverting" files when package built/installed on 10.5
by Stéphane Sudre 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On vendredi, novembre 30, 2007, at 06:40 AM, Eric Brod wrote: [...] It would be interesting to test the following thing: Clean /tmp or restart and then install again. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… The same packaging script works fine when built on OS 10.4 and installed on 10.[45] The Archive.bom contents contain the correct paths when viewed with lsbom. I cannot find any apple docs that talk about the installer "diverting" files. Does anyone know what can cause this crazy behavior??? Because it could be due to relocation automatically applied to your the application bundle within your package. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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you can't continue, there is nothing to install.
by jason xia 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

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Installer "diverting" files when package built/installed on 10.5
by Eric Brod 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com The install log contains these messages: We have an install package that is created by the Packagemaker command line utility. It is a -build package that is created from products placed in a tmp directory. A script copies products from their respective build location to the tmp node, and places each product in it's respective relative location. When the .pkg file is created, there are warnings generated about the permissions set on items destined for the /Library directory, but the products are installed there fine. The permissions we use are set as items in the /Library directory, and as recommended by Apple documents. Unfortunately, Items destined for the /Applications folder are "diverted" to a temp directory which is created by the installer, which is at the same location as the products were packaged from when the package was built. Installer[1488]: Create temporary directory "/private/tmp/ OurPackage.pkg.148869K8c2" Installer[1488]: ./Applications/OurDir/Our.app installed to /private/ tmp/ourdir/dstroot/Applications/OurDir/Our.app pkgExtractor[1494]: Extracting... pkgExtractor[1494]: Diverting "./Applications/OurDir/Our.app" to "/ private/tmp/oursbdir/dstroot/Applications/OurDir/Our.app" <also contains Diverting messages for all Our.app subdirs/files... The same packaging script works fine when built on OS 10.4 and installed on 10.[45] The Archive.bom contents contain the correct paths when viewed with lsbom. I cannot find any apple docs that talk about the installer "diverting" files. Does anyone know what can cause this crazy behavior??? Thanks... _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: PackageMaker 3: a bug, some strange stuff and a few suggestions
by Nathan Duran 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Nov 29, 2007, at 4:38 PM, Stéphane Sudre wrote: When you select downgradable for the Stickies.app package, it just set the package to be relocatable (relocatable="true"). Is this just a strange way of saying it's downgradable or more possibly a bug? It's been my experience that PackageMaker checks the relocatable box of its own accord at regular intervals without provocation. I have to open the project and un-check it every single time I build if I want it to stay off. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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PackageMaker 3: a bug, some strange stuff and a few suggestions
by Stéphane Sudre 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Package Format: 10.5 Playing with a fake installer for Stickies. o Bug 1: o Strange Stuff 1: o Strange Stuff 2: o Suggestions: - It would be nice to have syntax coloring in the Flat Package Editor. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… When you click Patch for the Stickies choice, you are granted with a not so good looking dialog. If you drag and drop Stickies.app in the text field, nothing is done. If you select the Choose button, it does work. When you create a patch of Stickies.app using the same application version for the diff, the installKBytes size is to be 5 MB. It's strange it can be 5 MB, when the difference is actually null and the payload is less than 48 KB. When you select downgradable for the Stickies.app package, it just set the package to be relocatable (relocatable="true"). Is this just a strange way of saying it's downgradable or more possibly a bug? - It would be nice to have proper indentation in the Flat Package Editor. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Where's the nice documentation?
by Stéphane Sudre 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Has it been removed from the GM? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I remember finding once a nice technical document on the distribution script format when playing with early seeds of Leopard. I also remember that it was not easy to find. As a matter of fact, I can't find it again. It's easy to find the Javascript documentation but not this one. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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