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Re: language packagemaker is running in?
by Bill Coderre 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

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Re: language packagemaker is running in?
by Stéphane Sudre 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thanks so much for getting back to me Stéphane, Bill and Bill. Why not just use: su $USER -c open then? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… On Mar 31, 2008, at 7:41 PM, Lisa Weimer wrote: I'm going to try the way of the locale command that Bill Janssen suggested. I think that is what I am looking for, I will soon find out ;) I'm trying to maintain a consistent language experience across the installer. The problem is the locale that the user is installing in may not be the same as the one root is in. So we might be running the installer in French or German. The install requires root-- so the user will click "install" and then they are prompted for their password. The application installs and all the pre/postflight scripts are run (as root). During postflight we launch a small helper application to do some more setup, but the helper application always launches in English. I am thinking it's because the locale of root is English. If I was able to pass the locale of the user running the install into the helper application when I launch it in postflight, then the helper application will correctly retrieve the correct localized string and be in the same language the user is in. (The app itself uses localization functions mentioned by Bill Coderre, and knows how to display the correct strings) If we run it through ARD, then of course there are no problems-- everything is done silently and correctly with no confusing language jumps. I'll let you know how it goes. If you have any more ideas now that I have told you a bit more-- please let me know :) This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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RE: language packagemaker is running in?
by Lisa Weimer 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AciRQAC/rO4AadAoR12rcRldN0uktACExrsg Thread-topic: language packagemaker is running in? Thanks so much for getting back to me Stéphane, Bill and Bill. I'm going to try the way of the locale command that Bill Janssen suggested. I think that is what I am looking for, I will soon find out ;) I'm trying to maintain a consistent language experience across the installer. The problem is the locale that the user is installing in may not be the same as the one root is in. So we might be running the installer in French or German. The install requires root-- so the user will click "install" and then they are prompted for their password. The application installs and all the pre/postflight scripts are run (as root). During postflight we launch a small helper application to do some more setup, but the helper application always launches in English. I am thinking it's because the locale of root is English. If I was able to pass the locale of the user running the install into the helper application when I launch it in postflight, then the helper application will correctly retrieve the correct localized string and be in the same language the user is in. (The app itself uses localization functions mentioned by Bill Coderre, and knows how to display the correct strings) If we run it through ARD, then of course there are no problems--everything is done silently and correctly with no confusing language jumps. I'll let you know how it goes. If you have any more ideas now that I have told you a bit more-- please let me know :) Thanks for some more ideas :) Lisa -----Original Message----- From: Bill Janssen [mailto:janssen@parc.com] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 7:55 PM To: Lisa Weimer Cc: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Subject: Re: language packagemaker is running in? See http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/basedefs/xbd_chap08.html and the output of the "locale" command. Bill _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: PackageMaker & Custom Folder Icons
by Paul Cook 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

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open in postflight of installer
by Alexander Cohen 29 Mar '08

29 Mar '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi, thanks AC _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I have a package that i'm building that is run as admin. In the postflight script, i need to start up an application. I thought it would be as easy as just calling 'open <app path>'. It seems its not so. The app opens as it should, but any drag and drop attempt from that application or any app opened by it fail with CoreDragError -4960 output to the console. Any ideas what might be going on? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: language packagemaker is running in?
by Bill Coderre 29 Mar '08

29 Mar '08

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Re: language packagemaker is running in?
by Bill Janssen 29 Mar '08

29 Mar '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com See http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/basedefs/xbd_chap08.html and the output of the "locale" command. Bill _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: language packagemaker is running in?
by Stéphane Sudre 29 Mar '08

29 Mar '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Mar 29, 2008, at 2:15 AM, Lisa Weimer wrote: Hi All, 2 questions: o If it's not a secret, why do you need the language? o What if the package is installed through ARD or installer? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Is there a way to determine what language the installer is running in that is available during Postflight script time? $INSTALLER_TEMP, $PACKAGE_PATH, etc seem to be the only variables available—I can’t find any for languages. I want to find out what language the installer is running in, and pass it to my postflight script This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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language packagemaker is running in?
by Lisa Weimer 29 Mar '08

29 Mar '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AciROmb9lKir3F3iQCaMXzgEiJJmLA== Thread-topic: language packagemaker is running in? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Metapackage that can install depending on architecture
by Roy Marquez 28 Mar '08

28 Mar '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Message: 1 Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:01:02 -0700 From: Nigel Kersten <nigel(a)explanatorygap.net> Subject: Re: Metapackage that can install depending on architecture To: Ted Brown <installerdev(a)tzande.com> Cc: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Message-ID: <937079A5-792A-45A2-AD46-FDF9130874F4(a)explanatorygap.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Some people re-package other companies installers so that they can easily deploy them. Making a universal binary isn't an option. One would think Adobe would be able to figure out how to make a universal binary. But there are still separate installers for the Flash Player (even though one is called "UB".) It is odd how Adobe are doing this, but we've tested the UB version on PPC quite a lot, and have had no problems with it. This also gets around the horrible Adobe installer that asks for elevated privileges and then decides not to use them when it scans / Applications for app bundles that it thinks need updating. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I wanted to take the time and thank Andy and Stephan as well as everyone that has provided input in this discussion. In our case, we have had issues (particularly with Tiger) where the Intel version of GroupWise gave problems on our PPC systems. Novell and Adobe have that weird way of distributing these apps. Packaging allows me to get around this problem and it has been working fine. But I must chime in and I say that I really dislike that horrible Adobe Installer. It has been so problematic for us. On Mar 28, 2008, at 1:02 PM, installer-dev-request(a)lists.apple.com wrote: On Mar 26, 2008, at 6:47 AM, Ted Brown wrote: This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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