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Re: [HELP please]. Totally frustrated with PackageMaker 3.0
by Ruslan Zasukhin 02 Jun '08

02 Jun '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AcjEnBLVUaHFgDCPEd2w+QANkzDgagAApkzBAAB/ZzE= Thread-topic: [HELP please]. Totally frustrated with PackageMaker 3.0 User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.0.050811 On 6/2/08 1:51 PM, "Ruslan Zasukhin" <sunshine(a)public.kherson.ua> wrote: > Okay, one more step future. > > I have change package idents to be as > > gggggggggggg > dddddddddddddd > > Run installer, and Hmm, now Receipts folder DO NOT have packages at all, > And I see that Receipts/db (I assume SqlLite db) has just only changed > time. > > So RESUME IS: > > * OS X try to be very smart. > > * it probably corresponds somehow my totally new package to old one > and do ANOTHER job, comparing to case when it cannot > correspond them. > > Strange is that this is not described in any docs. > Strange is that I cannot cleanup this. Okay I have found how to work with this db <http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man1/pkg util.1.html> -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: [HELP please]. Totally frustrated with PackageMaker 3.0
by Ruslan Zasukhin 02 Jun '08

02 Jun '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AcjEnznheEb6IjCSEd2w+QANkzDgag== Thread-topic: [HELP please]. Totally frustrated with PackageMaker 3.0 User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.0.050811 On 6/2/08 1:40 PM, "Alexander von Below" <below(a)mac.com> wrote: Hi Alexander, > Am 02.06.2008 um 12:33 schrieb Ruslan Zasukhin: > >> * Sometimes permissions of files do not correspond to what I have >> specify in >> the CONTENTS tab panel. After close/open of .mpdoc permissions can >> differ >> from what I have specify 2 minutes ago. >> Okay, after second fix manually, it seems PM remember this >> correctly. > > Terrible issue, but a known bug. Please file it at http://bugreport.apple.com > , and you can reference Bug ID 5462856. > > More duplicates put more pressure on the issue. Okay I see and will add duplicate. Thank you. But this one is the easiest I have describe, because on the second step I can make it work. Other issues are just shop stoppers and driven me crazy. :-( During few weeks I cannot prepare new installer. It is good that we self yet working on new version of our products, But time go to release ... BTW, another **STRANGE FEATURE** of PM 3.0 is that it just cannot open my old package Maker projects. So I was need try rebuild them from scratch. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: [HELP please]. Totally frustrated with PackageMaker 3.0
by Ruslan Zasukhin 02 Jun '08

02 Jun '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AcjEnBLVUaHFgDCPEd2w+QANkzDgagAApkzB Thread-topic: [HELP please]. Totally frustrated with PackageMaker 3.0 User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.0.050811 On 6/2/08 1:33 PM, "Ruslan Zasukhin" <sunshine(a)public.kherson.ua> wrote: Hi All, > * Sometimes NAME of packages stored in Receipts folder do not correspond to > signature of package I specify. For example, I specify > > package ident: com.paradigmasoft.vserver_office_startupitems.pkg > > And for second > com.paradigmasoft.vserver_office.pkg > > But into Receipts it go just as > startupitems.pkg > vserveroffice.pkg <<<< yes without underscore "_" > > How this can be??? I have check XML files, they contain MY names. > Why into Receipts folder go this file names ??? > > May be it somehow go from my previous attempts? > But where is stored this info to cleanup It then ? Okay, one more step future. I have change package idents to be as gggggggggggg dddddddddddddd Run installer, and Hmm, now Receipts folder DO NOT have packages at all, And I see that Receipts/db (I assume SqlLite db) has just only changed time. So RESUME IS: * OS X try to be very smart. * it probably corresponds somehow my totally new package to old one and do ANOTHER job, comparing to case when it cannot correspond them. Strange is that this is not described in any docs. Strange is that I cannot cleanup this. So it seems I need invent new signature. May be I will use com.paradigmasoft.vserver_office_3_6.pkg Although I think this is not best idea to use version here. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: [HELP please]. Totally frustrated with PackageMaker 3.0
by Alexander von Below 02 Jun '08

02 Jun '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Am 02.06.2008 um 12:33 schrieb Ruslan Zasukhin: More duplicates put more pressure on the issue. Alex _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… * Sometimes permissions of files do not correspond to what I have specify in the CONTENTS tab panel. After close/open of .mpdoc permissions can differ from what I have specify 2 minutes ago. Okay, after second fix manually, it seems PM remember this correctly. Terrible issue, but a known bug. Please file it at http://bugreport.apple.com , and you can reference Bug ID 5462856. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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[HELP please]. Totally frustrated with PackageMaker 3.0
by Ruslan Zasukhin 02 Jun '08

02 Jun '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AcjEnBLVUaHFgDCPEd2w+QANkzDgag== Thread-topic: [HELP please]. Totally frustrated with PackageMaker 3.0 User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.0.050811 Hi guys, In fact during few weeks I try switch our Valentina Server installer to new PackageMaker 3.0 = 3and I should say I almost have no hair on my head!!! I have spend totally may be 5 working days, and I cannot solve this simple task which have work in old PackageMaker. I always get some STRANGE ISSUE for built packages. * Sometimes permissions of files do not correspond to what I have specify in the CONTENTS tab panel. After close/open of .mpdoc permissions can differ from what I have specify 2 minutes ago. Okay, after second fix manually, it seems PM remember this correctly. * I have try and old way two packages linked by one metapackage. Full nightmare. I have specify to each package its install path. And just drag and drop them into metapackage. Wow, surprise. This installs packages right into ROOT. "Great. Very natural :-(" when I have try remove paths from sub-packages and specify them in top metapackage, I also did have odd things with permissions. Wow, I see that top metapackage also allow me specify permissions for files of sub-packages. And even worse -- it show permissions OTHER then I just only have specify for sub-package itself. Great wonder :-( * Sometimes NAME of packages stored in Receipts folder do not correspond to signature of package I specify. For example, I specify package ident: com.paradigmasoft.vserver_office_startupitems.pkg And for second com.paradigmasoft.vserver_office.pkg But into Receipts it go just as startupitems.pkg vserveroffice.pkg <<<< yes without underscore "_" How this can be??? I have check XML files, they contain MY names. Why into Receipts folder go this file names ??? May be it somehow go from my previous attempts? But where is stored this info to cleanup It then ? Thank you for any help you can provide. P.S. Again and Again I want say: why nobody have made something as simple/effective/flexible as InnoSetup installer maker for Windows ?! -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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