August 2008 - Installer-dev

Re: 10.5 commandline NSInvalidArgumentException
by Greg Hulands 25 Aug '08

25 Aug '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Cheers, Greg On 25/08/2008, at 10:35 AM, Aaron London wrote: -A _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/ghulands%40me.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Thanks Aaron, that fixed it. I couldn't find a reference to this when searching the archives. Add the --id (or -i) option to your command-line (see man packagemaker). It is a known Leopard bug. This email sent to ghulands(a)me.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: 10.5 commandline NSInvalidArgumentException
by Aaron London 25 Aug '08

25 Aug '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AckG2BhGKKL9CgymQWaKgWGV46/eDwAAMWUQ Thread-topic: 10.5 commandline NSInvalidArgumentException Add the --id (or -i) option to your command-line (see man packagemaker). It is a known Leopard bug. -A _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: 10.5 commandline NSInvalidArgumentException
by Greg Hulands 25 Aug '08

25 Aug '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Greg On 20/08/2008, at 10:42 PM, Greg Hulands wrote: I have attached the pmdoc project. Any insight is greatly appreciated, Thanks, Greg <Installer.pmdoc.zip> _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/ghulands%40me.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Just pinging again to see if anyone has any suggestions. I'm stuck trying to bring our build train to 10.5 while getting this error. I ran packagemaker in gdb and it is the XML string argument that is nil. Hi, When trying to build on the command line I get the following exception. This is my first installer using PackageMaker 3 as we are trying to convert our build train to 10.5. Leopard1080:MapertureBuild ghulands$ /Developer/usr/bin/packagemaker -d /Users/ghulands/MapertureBuild/AperturePlugins/PhotoPin/Support/ Installer/MaperturePro/Installer.pmdoc -o /tmp/Maperture.pkg 2008-08-20 22:35:43.401 packagemaker[20411:10b] Setting to : 0 (null) 2008-08-20 22:35:43.403 packagemaker[20411:10b] Setting to : 0 com.ubermind.aperture.edit.MaperturePro.pkg 2008-08-20 22:35:43.404 packagemaker[20411:10b] Setting to : 0 com.ubermind.aperture.edit.MaperturePro.pkg 2008-08-20 22:35:43.406 packagemaker[20411:10b] relocate: (null) 0 2008-08-20 22:35:43.407 packagemaker[20411:10b] *** Terminating app due to uncaught exception 'NSInvalidArgumentException', reason: '*** -[NSXMLDocument initWithXMLString:options:error:]: nil argument' 2008-08-20 22:35:43.407 packagemaker[20411:10b] Stack: ( 2426093899, 2529845499, 2426093355, 2426093418, 2487484628, 453375, 447724, 436213, 435514, 9990, 9922 ) Trace/BPT trap Leopard1080:MapertureBuild ghulands$ This email sent to ghulands(a)me.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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[SOLVED] Re: GET INFO not updated was Re: Launch Services cache not updated?
by Fritz Anderson 25 Aug '08

25 Aug '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Aug 21, 2008, at 9:07 PM, Bill Coderre wrote: — F _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… When people complain, what I do is to /usr/bin/touch the app, then touch the enclosing folder. This will work, sometimes. For me, on 10.4.11 with a Java application, touching the application package and /Applications after installing worked. Thank you. My question about whether there really is an FAQ was serious. Were you being ironic? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: osascript and Mac OS X v10.5.4
by Nigel Kersten 24 Aug '08

24 Aug '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=explanatorygap.net; h=Received:Cc:Message-Id:From:To:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:References:X-Mailer:X-Identified-User; b=fFiMKV3H43zBiKpVnLwn4Zg0X0wUKjeefIYvBHBEf8Gk+TjHLsFoteFVJ0B6Oiw6keEc4XQRJ9oYw73Mw/TXM4hoeLOIEnkImJQ3fKwe0778Pj4OgCU/YINhaZqQgTQy; On Aug 22, 2008, at 1:24 PM, Francois Granade wrote: I'm resisting dog-piling onto the Bad Idea Train :) _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… But it's ugly, from the point of view of the user... Any other idea ? If you tell application "System Events" to display the dialog, it's less intrusive for the user. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: osascript and Mac OS X v10.5.4
by Gignac, Jason (HAS-SAT) 22 Aug '08

22 Aug '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AckEnxN8mq18y6CvXkWUFBe3jJgseg== Thread-topic: osascript and Mac OS X v10.5.4 User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.12.0.080729 I guess I'm curious what it is you're trying to do, here... Are you trying to make the installer pop up a dialog box to the user or something? IF so, I'd submit at this point that that is a trademarked "Bad Idea" as it were. Not that I can't imagine a sittuation where it would be useful, but it's not the 'right' way to do it. Are you trying to let the user configure the installation or something? If so, would it perhaps be more appropriate to do it on the first run of the app? On 8/22/08 Friday, August 22, 2008 -3:24 PM, "Francois Granade" <lists.apple.com(a)farialima.net> wrote: > > I am having the same problem. I think it is new to 10.5.4, or even to > a recent security update. I haven't tried with older versions of older > versions of 10.5, but from googling the problem, it is only very > recent... > > Also, I think it is specific to the Installer app -- otherwise, why > would it work when "tell"-ing to a different application ? > > I haven't found a solution yet, except activating another application > another application, displaying the dialog, and activating Installer > again, like this: > > osascript<<EOF > tell application "Finder" > activate > display dialog "Hello world !" > end tell > tell application "Installer" > activate > end tell > EOF > > But it's ugly, from the point of view of the user... Any other idea ? > > François > >> Hi Stéphane, >> >> On 8/11/08 2:17 PM, "Stéphane Sudre" <email@hidden> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Aug 11, 2008, at 10:31 PM, Luke Bellandi wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I¹ve got a preflight script that executes AppleScript via >>>> osascript. This works in Mac OS X v10.4, but not in 10.5.4 >>>> >>>> An example is: >>>> >>>> osascript<<EOF >>>> tell application "Installer" >>>> activate >>>> display dialog "Hello World" >>>> end tell >>>> EOF >>>> >>>> This doesn¹t work When run from Terminal.app, I get the failure >>>> message: >>>> >>>> 49:77: execution error: Installer got an error: "Hello World" >>>> doesn¹t understand the display dialog message. (-1708) >>>> >>>> But if I change the script to ³tell² a different application (I¹ve >>>> tried Finder, Safari, Audio MIDI Setup) -- they all respond >>>> appropriately and show the dialog. Why doesn¹t the Installer do it >>>> in 10.5? This worked in 10.4 (and I believe even in earlier >>>> versions of 10.5.4 could this have broken in the 10.5.3 or 10.5.4 >>>> update)? >>> >>> Stupid idea: >>> >>> Could it be related to the security fix for the AppleScript flaw? >>> >>> If it's the case, then the issue should also happen on a 10.4.11 OS >>> fully patched. >>> >> >> Ah -- it's not related to the security patch, but your suggestion >> led me to >> find out that on Leopard osascript disallows user interaction when >> run from >> a command-line tool. That's apparantly a behavior change from Tiger. >> >> Cheers, >> Luke >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/jason.gignac%40pearson…> m > > This email sent to jason.gignac(a)pearson.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: osascript and Mac OS X v10.5.4
by Francois Granade 22 Aug '08

22 Aug '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com osascript<<EOF tell application "Finder" activate display dialog "Hello world !" end tell tell application "Installer" activate end tell EOF But it's ugly, from the point of view of the user... Any other idea ? François Hi Stéphane, On 8/11/08 2:17 PM, "Stéphane Sudre" <email@hidden> wrote: > > On Aug 11, 2008, at 10:31 PM, Luke Bellandi wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I¹ve got a preflight script that executes AppleScript via >> osascript. This works in Mac OS X v10.4, but not in 10.5.4 >> >> An example is: >> >> osascript<<EOF >> tell application "Installer" >> activate >> display dialog "Hello World" >> end tell >> EOF >> >> This doesn¹t work When run from Terminal.app, I get the failure >> message: >> >> 49:77: execution error: Installer got an error: "Hello World" >> doesn¹t understand the display dialog message. (-1708) >> >> But if I change the script to ³tell² a different application (I¹ve >> tried Finder, Safari, Audio MIDI Setup) -- they all respond >> appropriately and show the dialog. Why doesn¹t the Installer do it >> in 10.5? This worked in 10.4 (and I believe even in earlier >> versions of 10.5.4 could this have broken in the 10.5.3 or 10.5.4 >> update)? > > Stupid idea: > > Could it be related to the security fix for the AppleScript flaw? > > If it's the case, then the issue should also happen on a 10.4.11 OS > fully patched. > Cheers, Luke _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I am having the same problem. I think it is new to 10.5.4, or even to a recent security update. I haven't tried with older versions of older versions of 10.5, but from googling the problem, it is only very recent... Also, I think it is specific to the Installer app -- otherwise, why would it work when "tell"-ing to a different application ? I haven't found a solution yet, except activating another application another application, displaying the dialog, and activating Installer again, like this: Ah -- it's not related to the security patch, but your suggestion led me to find out that on Leopard osascript disallows user interaction when run from a command-line tool. That's apparantly a behavior change from Tiger. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: GET INFO not updated was Re: Launch Services cache not updated?
by Fritz Anderson 22 Aug '08

22 Aug '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thanks to to you and Philip Aker for the suggestions. On Aug 21, 2008, at 9:07 PM, Bill Coderre wrote: Well, this was 10.4, but I take the point. — F _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… (Get Info windows have nothing to do with Launch Services, by the way.) I guess I knew that. I thought "apparently erroneous cache," and that triggered "Launch Services" in my mind. I'm sorry for the error. Get info windows not showing the right things after install has been an issue, more or less bad, since 10.0. I haven't had it "brought to my attention" recently, so maybe 10.5 has the issue less frequently. Maybe this needs to go into the FAQ. There's an FAQ? That would be useful. A Google search on half a dozen obvious phrases doesn't turn anything up. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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GET INFO not updated was Re: Launch Services cache not updated?
by Bill Coderre 22 Aug '08

22 Aug '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com I start with an application installed by Installer VISE. I run an Installer.app package that replaces the application. (Get Info windows have nothing to do with Launch Services, by the way.) If it doesn't work, I don't know what will. Sometimes, nothing seems to work. Maybe this needs to go into the FAQ. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… On Aug 21, 2008, at 4:11 PM, Philip Aker wrote: On Aug 20, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Fritz Anderson wrote: The replacement is displayed in the Finder with the original's icon, and Get Info shows the original's version number. I examined the installed Info.plist, and verified that the correct, updated information is there. The application works, demonstrates the updated features, and displays the correct version information in the about box. If I copy the updated application elsewhere, the icon and the displayed version are correct. I assume there is some Launch Services or Finder cache that doesn't get kicked by my installation. What should I be doing about this? Mac OS X 10.4.11 There's an AppleEvent/AppleScript call to the Finder which you can try (look for 'update' in the Finder's scripting dictionary). Also maybe a call to LSRegisterURL() might kick the Finder into displaying the new info. I can say the 'update' call to the Finder works for files, but can't remember if I've every tried it for an application. Get info windows not showing the right things after install has been an issue, more or less bad, since 10.0. I haven't had it "brought to my attention" recently, so maybe 10.5 has the issue less frequently. When people complain, what I do is to /usr/bin/touch the app, then touch the enclosing folder. This will work, sometimes. It almost certainly WILL NOT WORK if you have the Get Info window open during the install. It often won't work if you get info, close the get info, install, then Get Info again. It sometimes won't work if you have an old version of Mac OS X (say, 10.3). Note that in 10.5, at least, Installer.app is supposed to do the touch for you. Touching a few more times doesn't take much time, though, so go nuts. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Launch Services cache not updated?
by Philip Aker 21 Aug '08

21 Aug '08

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Aug 20, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Fritz Anderson wrote: I start with an application installed by Installer VISE. I run an Installer.app package that replaces the application. Philip Aker echo astwta@lvpc.dslh@nl | tr a-z@. p-za-o.@ Democracy: Two wolves and a sheep voting on lunch. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… The replacement is displayed in the Finder with the original's icon, and Get Info shows the original's version number. I examined the installed Info.plist, and verified that the correct, updated information is there. The application works, demonstrates the updated features, and displays the correct version information in the about box. If I copy the updated application elsewhere, the icon and the displayed version are correct. I assume there is some Launch Services or Finder cache that doesn't get kicked by my installation. What should I be doing about this? Mac OS X 10.4.11 There's an AppleEvent/AppleScript call to the Finder which you can try (look for 'update' in the Finder's scripting dictionary). Also maybe a call to LSRegisterURL() might kick the Finder into displaying the new info. I can say the 'update' call to the Finder works for files, but can't remember if I've every tried it for an application. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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