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Re: Strange behaviour with defaults read in install script
by Nigel Kersten 09 Mar '09

09 Mar '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Bill Coderre <bc(a)apple.com> wrote: > BEFORE the user clicks "Install," anything the installer does is run as the > console user. > AFTER that, for most installs, anything the installer does is run as root. > (ie. if the installer requires an admin password) > The environment variable USER is set to the console user short user name, so > you probably want to do > > su $USER -c "defaults read -g AppleLocale" Actually you probably *don't* as relying upon $USER in the environment will break your package for all remote deployments via ARD, ssh/root, or just about any large package deployment system. Is this the right setting? It shows up as English for me... defaults read /Library/Preferences/.GlobalPreferences AppleLanguages and doesn't rely upon any user environments. > > to get the favorite language. > Now, if you are trying to install, say, just one language, that's not > standard. Mac OS X installers typically install all the languages, and the > few users that are concerned can run a utility to get rid of unused > languages (Monolingual is one). > If you want to get a language to show the user some text during install: > 1) Please try to do all your interaction before the user clicks install > 2) if you can't do that, do > > su $USER -c "whatever_command arguments" > > On Mar 9, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Glover,David wrote: > > I'm trying out a few different things to retrieve the default language > the machine is running in. > > What is really strange is that this works ok in a script... > > defaults read -g AppleLocale > > But that's not perfect as it's the language I'm trying to retrieve > rather than the locale. By getting AppleLanguages, I can get the first > language in the list. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Karl Kuehn [mailto:kuehn.karl@gmail.com] > Sent: 09 March 2009 17:00 > To: Glover,David > Cc: Installer-Dev mailing-list > Subject: Re: Strange behaviour with defaults read in install script > > On Mar 9, 2009, at 9:45 AM, Glover,David wrote: > > I'm using a preinstall script to read the available languages on the > > machine as follows; > > defaults read -g AppleLanguages > > This is fine via a Terminal command, or when running the script by > > Terminal, but when the script is run by Installer, the following is > > outputted; > > "The domain/default pair of (kCFPreferencesAnyApplication, > > AppleLanguages) does not exist" > > Has anybody come across this unusual behaviour before? Why has > > Installer decided to start lying to me? > > Installer isn't lying to you, it is telling you that for the > user > that you are running at at that point the list of default languages is > not. This is true for any non-GUI user (try running this with sudo for > instance). This command is essentially calling: > > defaults read .GlobalPreferences AppleLanguages > > And many users do not have a file at > ~username/.GlobalPreferences.plist > > What are you really trying to accomplish here? And are you sure > that > the installer is the appropriate place for this? > > -- > Karl Kuehn > larkost(a)softhome.net > > > > > Promethean Limited is a company registered in England and Wales with company > number 1308938 and VAT number GB 572 2599 18 > ______________________________________________ > > Promethean Ltd and or associated and or subsidiary companies : > > The views expressed in this communication may not necessarily be > the views held by Promethean Ltd and or associated and or subsidiary > companies. > > This e-mail is for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). Unauthorised > disclosure, copying or distribution is prohibited. > > This e-mail message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. > > Promethean Ltd and or associated and or subsidiary companies accepts no > liability for any loss resulting from this email transmission. > > Promethean, Promethean House, Lower Philips Road, Blackburn, Lancashire, BB1 > 5TH, UK. 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Re: Strange behaviour with defaults read in install script
by Bill Coderre 09 Mar '09

09 Mar '09

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Any recommended resources for learning Mac packaging?
by Taylor Armstrong 09 Mar '09

09 Mar '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) thanks, Taylor Armstrong -- _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Just curious... I'm taking on a new role soon, and my packaging responsibilities should increase. I've been creating basic packages using InstallEase, PackageMaker, and Iceberg, but am curious if there are any good resources for learning more advanced processes. I'll probably have a small window to ask for training materials and resources, but I've not seen much out there in the little bit that I've looked. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ W. Taylor Armstrong Taylor.Armstrong(a)noaa.gov NOAA's National Ocean Service IT Support - AA/MB Team Lead 1305 East-West Highway Phone (301) 713-2644 Silver Spring, MD 20910 http://nos.noaa.gov IT Support Request Email: nos.helpdesk(a)noaa.gov ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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RE: Strange behaviour with defaults read in install script
by Glover,David 09 Mar '09

09 Mar '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: Acmg2I24nkc7aV+JQuKTCh3CDN5wswAAMIag Thread-topic: Strange behaviour with defaults read in install script Hi Karl, thanks for your response. I'm trying out a few different things to retrieve the default language the machine is running in. What is really strange is that this works ok in a script... defaults read -g AppleLocale But that's not perfect as it's the language I'm trying to retrieve rather than the locale. By getting AppleLanguages, I can get the first language in the list. -----Original Message----- From: Karl Kuehn [mailto:kuehn.karl@gmail.com] Sent: 09 March 2009 17:00 To: Glover,David Cc: Installer-Dev mailing-list Subject: Re: Strange behaviour with defaults read in install script On Mar 9, 2009, at 9:45 AM, Glover,David wrote: > I'm using a preinstall script to read the available languages on the > machine as follows; > > defaults read -g AppleLanguages > > This is fine via a Terminal command, or when running the script by > Terminal, but when the script is run by Installer, the following is > outputted; > > "The domain/default pair of (kCFPreferencesAnyApplication, > AppleLanguages) does not exist" > > Has anybody come across this unusual behaviour before? Why has > Installer decided to start lying to me? Installer isn't lying to you, it is telling you that for the user that you are running at at that point the list of default languages is not. This is true for any non-GUI user (try running this with sudo for instance). This command is essentially calling: defaults read .GlobalPreferences AppleLanguages And many users do not have a file at ~username/.GlobalPreferences.plist What are you really trying to accomplish here? And are you sure that the installer is the appropriate place for this? -- Karl Kuehn larkost(a)softhome.net Promethean Limited is a company registered in England and Wales with company number 1308938 and VAT number GB 572 2599 18 ______________________________________________ Promethean Ltd and or associated and or subsidiary companies : The views expressed in this communication may not necessarily be the views held by Promethean Ltd and or associated and or subsidiary companies. This e-mail is for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). Unauthorised disclosure, copying or distribution is prohibited. This e-mail message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Promethean Ltd and or associated and or subsidiary companies accepts no liability for any loss resulting from this email transmission. Promethean, Promethean House, Lower Philips Road, Blackburn, Lancashire, BB1 5TH, UK. Please update your records accordingly. Thank you! ***************************************************************** This email has been checked by the e-Sweeper Service ***************************************************************** _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Strange behaviour with defaults read in install script
by Karl Kuehn 09 Mar '09

09 Mar '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=T8SDeWIh/KwHYs1Q5oMt6pmaOGE3LRMePfbvnXBCR9U=; b=pFjRYtdli9sw5A3B2yuoYkjFUHJJYx8kSVYra5zEgvqoYR8OmKUICtbvlVq1JpFQaM 6bQgpgAH+E6mFvXZrlQ1qUEcAJhSQa50/rFiB2q+90eW6N4zD1AOXiVTQ6iCdizbuMmA LreyQpmKUxwXTA6kcR8sAirluCDUOkgBQpG1c= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=A3SlUtcoMTIGRWSFvdrpHcbmI8uG841FJKFfqZjv/Uj5CStYRGToM7KV7GLHUAF4Bc cjtLYZ7vEO8OtITVVTqaQ7XMHT5UV/jOdyn8Z5euMGAKb4y+8JRd68skMU09oKwVIqPi kGg5Xv+7RUvSWUfJ3X1pOao9DtTUmCoJ1vPTM= defaults read .GlobalPreferences AppleLanguages Woops... small amendment, that should be: -- Karl Kuehn larkost(a)softhome.net _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… On Mar 9, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Karl Kuehn wrote: And many users do not have a file at ~username/.GlobalPreferences.plist ~username/Library/Preferences/.GlobalPreferences.plist This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Strange behaviour with defaults read in install script
by Karl Kuehn 09 Mar '09

09 Mar '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=ZU3YMqNH4y6ZbiR/FRAENwmxwsdRUA5qIbhwLvkYbns=; b=JcIqRg38iea8qCIfLMY7J4BV8L9ARWCMrLl1pwd8Ln/IfDI67Zf69euC7xCSyR1yhE C1cfT5Pqo3GDATPN+4MvXj1kVy1tQ6CF0KwXLY1stfVkvJ+lnjcNZlgNxmAWD86ouEUI edqNosjswuQaYRol6IqjVl0VE4pAfZynTJLic= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=rs8UBB9MZzKSXK1oaAc41X9K+H9i508w88zmx6agAx8QQeQVgObRXdV8juZb/FB3EM jVNbYpdozjtTH2P9WTqEkF+fo2ErVWASeU+9kS12yrMEk8rLL5KFTFxYMp4GL0/DPDet d2FsObNAJBs0PrJM8oTBcTXgfYjOQIwE3SW6I= On Mar 9, 2009, at 9:45 AM, Glover,David wrote: defaults read –g AppleLanguages defaults read .GlobalPreferences AppleLanguages And many users do not have a file at ~username/.GlobalPreferences.plist -- Karl Kuehn larkost(a)softhome.net _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I’m using a preinstall script to read the available languages on the machine as follows; This is fine via a Terminal command, or when running the script by Terminal, but when the script is run by Installer, the following is outputted; “The domain/default pair of (kCFPreferencesAnyApplication, AppleLanguages) does not exist” Has anybody come across this unusual behaviour before? Why has Installer decided to start lying to me? Installer isn't lying to you, it is telling you that for the user that you are running at at that point the list of default languages is not. This is true for any non-GUI user (try running this with sudo for instance). This command is essentially calling: What are you really trying to accomplish here? And are you sure that the installer is the appropriate place for this? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Strange behaviour with defaults read in install script
by Glover,David 09 Mar '09

09 Mar '09

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Re: Installer plugin and PackageMaker 3.0.3
by Robinson Nuñez 04 Mar '09

04 Mar '09

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Re: Installer plugin and PackageMaker 3.0.3
by Leszek Nie 04 Mar '09

04 Mar '09

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Re: Installer plugin and PackageMaker 3.0.3
by Rusty Myers 04 Mar '09

04 Mar '09

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