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Re: packagemaker newbie - permissions issue
by Greg Neagle 23 Jun '09

23 Jun '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com -Greg On Jun 23, 2009, at 7:08 AM, Peter Lee wrote: Hello, Peter Lee _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/greg.neagle%40disneyan… _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… As a Mac OS X systems administrator, I find software that modifies files inside its own application bundles evil, and would encourage you to rethink that design decision. It makes it extremely difficult to store out malicious modifications from benign modifications. I'd also urge you to consider making the file in /Library/Application Support/Rising Software read-only, and copying it to ~/Library/ Application Support/Rising Software, where you can modify it in the user's home dir, but this is a matter of preference as long as the software can run with the /Library/Application Support/Rising Software file missing or damaged by the user. If _anybody_ who runs the software must have read/write access to these files, you must set the mode to 666 if they are actually files, and 777 if they are directories. You _cannot_ rely on all users being in any specific group. Our applicaton has a couple of files that anybody who runs the application needs read/write access to. One is stored in Library/ Application Support/Rising Software and the other is in the application bundle. In Packagemaker, they are getting assigned to group 'staff', with my own name as the owner. As I understand, who owns the file isn't really an issue, as long as the group has rw access, and all users who need to use the spp are in the group that owns the file(s). On 10.5, every user seems to be in the 'staff' group. I not sure if that that's the case in earlier versions of OSX - it may be but my 10.4 disk won't boot at the moment.... Having said that - on a friends machine - 10.5, he's transferred his profile from an earlier version of OSX, and he's not in staff. I don't know if he was in staff on his earlier box - I _think_ that in earlier versions of OSX, you are in a group with the same name/ number as your user name/number, and perhaps you don't get membership of staff automatically when you transfer your profile. I'm just wondering how we should handle this? We could make those files owned by group 'everyone' instead? It sounds a bit ugly to me? Thanks, -- Peter Lee ptle(a)risingsoftware.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rising Software Australia Pty. Ltd. http:// www.risingsoftware.com/ Publishers of 'Auralia' - Ear Training and 'Musition' - Theory Training Ph: +61 3 9481 3320 FAX: +61 3 9481 3380 USA Freecall: 1 888 667 7839 This email sent to greg.neagle(a)disneyanimation.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: packagemaker newbie - permissions issue
by Stephane Sudre 23 Jun '09

23 Jun '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=LJ//PginBpCTWofMb6v8gVUU9J0gxI8tA63zl0UZEQU=; b=CzMnIDGIylq2XWWuxYuqUD4pT+V545t3Ed3iME/dSg5W4ysuBed8DsJHcWtcZHhtxb kpRHFmUuC1YcWlHgMsDNWbqnGdBYDkD9Z79DNTGiFivZcsFwkwHwkFqYkLsPofw/+yFQ NiYSa3XXvjwb+98t07EOZmuzDTAFIrpMgfFSs= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=x5lBMNQyHIziqOzBW0Nvtco10RlHsyBB+QztWGj9i+VAq3ZykqykTBIsliJQxALNW+ 6+KTPWFIjx6YvrdcoDynxL1VquYNLKNhQG4wGV/OHdtFiviOuL6PmfV5Uh2SKzPK2TIu 5Whds75f68ooZPFe33YEbkwIbGb5WtYuKlUe0= root:admin 775 or 664 depending on if it's a folder or a file. In some version of Mac OS X, the group id of a user had the same value as its user id, e.g. 501:501. On other versions, it was/is 501:20. The best solution (IMHO) is to use root:admin if you install anything in /Library or /Applications. On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Peter Lee<ptle(a)risingsoftware.com> wrote: > Hello, > > Our applicaton has a couple of files that anybody who runs the application > needs read/write access to. One is stored in Library/Application > Support/Rising Software and the other is in the application bundle. In > Packagemaker, they are getting assigned to group 'staff', with my own name > as the owner. As I understand, who owns the file isn't really an issue, as > long as the group has rw access, and all users who need to use the spp are > in the group that owns the file(s). > > On 10.5, every user seems to be in the 'staff' group. I not sure if that > that's the case in earlier versions of OSX - it may be but my 10.4 disk > won't boot at the moment.... > > Having said that - on a friends machine - 10.5, he's transferred his profile > from an earlier version of OSX, and he's not in staff. I don't know if he > was in staff on his earlier box - I _think_ that in earlier versions of OSX, > you are in a group with the same name/number as your user name/number, and > perhaps you don't get membership of staff automatically when you transfer > your profile. > > I'm just wondering how we should handle this? We could make those files > owned by group 'everyone' instead? It sounds a bit ugly to me? > Thanks, > > Peter Lee > > -- > Peter Lee ptle(a)risingsoftware.com > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Rising Software Australia Pty. Ltd. http://www.risingsoftware.com/ > Publishers of 'Auralia' - Ear Training and 'Musition' - Theory Training > Ph: +61 3 9481 3320 FAX: +61 3 9481 3380 USA Freecall: 1 888 667 7839 > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/dev.iceberg%40gmail.com > > This email sent to dev.iceberg(a)gmail.com > _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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packagemaker newbie - permissions issue
by Peter Lee 23 Jun '09

23 Jun '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) Hello, Thanks, Peter Lee _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Our applicaton has a couple of files that anybody who runs the application needs read/write access to. One is stored in Library/Application Support/Rising Software and the other is in the application bundle. In Packagemaker, they are getting assigned to group 'staff', with my own name as the owner. As I understand, who owns the file isn't really an issue, as long as the group has rw access, and all users who need to use the spp are in the group that owns the file(s). On 10.5, every user seems to be in the 'staff' group. I not sure if that that's the case in earlier versions of OSX - it may be but my 10.4 disk won't boot at the moment.... Having said that - on a friends machine - 10.5, he's transferred his profile from an earlier version of OSX, and he's not in staff. I don't know if he was in staff on his earlier box - I _think_ that in earlier versions of OSX, you are in a group with the same name/number as your user name/number, and perhaps you don't get membership of staff automatically when you transfer your profile. I'm just wondering how we should handle this? We could make those files owned by group 'everyone' instead? It sounds a bit ugly to me? -- Peter Lee ptle(a)risingsoftware.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rising Software Australia Pty. Ltd. http://www.risingsoftware.com/ Publishers of 'Auralia' - Ear Training and 'Musition' - Theory Training Ph: +61 3 9481 3320 FAX: +61 3 9481 3380 USA Freecall: 1 888 667 7839 This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Finding installed applications by bundle ID in PackageMaker 3.0.3
by Michael Good 18 Jun '09

18 Jun '09

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RE: changing destination path
by Glover,David 18 Jun '09

18 Jun '09

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changing destination path
by Mike Erickson 18 Jun '09

18 Jun '09

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how to make patch package
by 李剑 18 Jun '09

18 Jun '09

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Re: how to make patch package?
by Greg Neagle 18 Jun '09

18 Jun '09

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packagermaker --root and the other options
by developerlists 17 Jun '09

17 Jun '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hello List, Many thanks. Jürgen _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I have build our installer in the past with the -pmdoc option, but I have to switch to -root because I have to build a pkg dynamic and everything is in flux. The question is where to set the options with --root I was able to set in the pmdoc? E.g. name of the product, relocatable YES / NO and so on. I did not find any documentation about this. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: how to make patch package?
by Greg Neagle 17 Jun '09

17 Jun '09

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