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Re: More on Install progress messages
by Iceberg-Dev 25 Jul '09

25 Jul '09

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More on Install progress messages
by Kevin Brock 24 Jul '09

24 Jul '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) Reflatten the package, sign and we're good to go, almost. Kevin _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… We were trying to change the install progress messages to something a little more friendly. We need a signed package, so using older versions of package maker, or a non-flat format, wasn't really an option. It looks like there's no way to modify the messages through the GUI. 1) The progress messages, "Installing xxx" are just using the name of the package, xxx.pkg, in the flat package. 2) The name of the package is derived from the actual item being installed. e.g, "Foo Bar.app" becomes fooBar.pkg, and a file named com.mine.daemon.plist becomes comminedaemon.pkg. So, I used pkgutil to expand the package, renamed the actual package files in the expansion directory, and then modified Distribution to reflect the new package names. The problem is that this only works with install items which are bundles. So Foo.app I can give a new pacakge name to, or Bar.kext, but a daemon named somedaemon, which is being installed maybe in /usr/sbin, can't be renamed. If I try to rename that package I get an error from Installer when I try to install saying that there's nothing to install in that package. This is true also if the contents are a directory tree with only non-bundle items. You also can't rename things to names which have spaces. I tried doing this, using standard HTML space codes. #Foo%20Bar.pkg in Distribution expanded correctly, and there was a package named "Foo Bar.pkg", but Installer gave me the "nothing to install" error. It *did* look for the correct package name, though. Just couldn't process it. So, I got part of what I needed. I'm astonished at the lack of robustness and *extreme* lack of configurability in this stuff though. If these things are doable in a standard way, then I'm even *more* astonished at the lack of documentation. But then PackageMaker's always been a little lacking in that area compared to other dev tools... This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Custom background image in resized installer window
by Rusty Myers 22 Jul '09

22 Jul '09

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Re: Custom background image in resized installer window
by Greg Neagle 21 Jul '09

21 Jul '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com -Greg On Jul 21, 2009, at 4:47 PM, Dan Spirlock wrote: _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Different background art and setting it to stretch appropriately... Why should the technical people always be the ones to suffer? Make the artists work harder! When the window resizes it messes up the look of the background because the image is set to not stretch proportionally. It needs to be a fixed size. Does anyone have any suggestions for dealing with this scenario? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Custom background image in resized installer window
by Dan Spirlock 21 Jul '09

21 Jul '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hello All, Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Dan Spirlock BIAS, Inc. http://www.bias-inc.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… We're in the process of creating some installers with custom background images. I've noticed that sometimes the installer window will automatically resize. For example, when there are multiple drives connected the window will resize in the Destination pane to display all the drives. What's strange is that on some machines (same OS, same version of Installer) the window doesn't resize and instead would give you a scroll bar for the Destination pane. When the window resizes it messes up the look of the background because the image is set to not stretch proportionally. It needs to be a fixed size. Does anyone have any suggestions for dealing with this scenario? Also, is there a rhyme or reason as to why sometimes the Installer window resizes and sometimes not? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Installation progress messages
by Kevin Brock 21 Jul '09

21 Jul '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) Kevin I'd really appreciate any suggestions on this. Kevin _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/bc%40apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Bill Coderre wrote: For bundle packages, and flat distribution archives, inside each package is a bunch of language lprojs, and in there is a file called Description.plist. The key "IFPkgDescriptionTitle" is displayed by the installer. Well I tried playing with this and had the same results Iceberg-Dev already mentioned--no such file, and adding it doesn't appear to do anything. I *have*, recently, seen installers that do have different progress messages. Maybe I just need to take their packages apart and see how they did it... On Jul 17, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Kevin Brock wrote: I'm looking for ways to customize the installation progress messages--the "Installing xxx" messages that show up during actual package installation. The default is to use the last part of the package identifier. This isn't always what we want, and it'd be great if we could change the whole message in some cases. For example we have a scripts-only target which should probably say something like "Preparing for installation", rather than "Installing pre-install" I didn't run across anything in the official documents, but then that's often the case, even for things which are doable. This email sent to bc(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: How to disable upgrade logic in package
by Jan Deng 20 Jul '09

20 Jul '09

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Re: How to disable upgrade logic in package
by Greg Neagle 20 Jul '09

20 Jul '09

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How to disable upgrade logic in package
by Jan Deng 20 Jul '09

20 Jul '09

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Re: Installation progress messages
by Iceberg-Dev 19 Jul '09

19 Jul '09

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