September 2009 - Installer-dev

Re: Larger installer screen
by Bill Coderre 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com No, there isn't. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… On Sep 30, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Andrew Peckover wrote: Does anyone know if it is possible to make the default screen presented in the Installer any wider? Specifically, in the Custom Install screen, I would like the Package Name column to be wider, without the user having to adjust the widths of the columns. So if there was a way to specify the width of the column, or make the entire screen wider, either of those solutions would work. Also, does anyone know a trick to have it display a specific size of the install rather than having the installer determine the size automatically. For example, if a user installs the program, then deletes it, and then reinstalls later, it is still listed as an "upgrade" with "size 0". Of course if I delete the receipt after installation it would act as a fresh install next time, but I have previously been advised not to use a script to delete receipts. The size calculations use receipts to decide, in interests of speed. Obviously, receipts often do not represent the actual state of the disk, so, alas, this calculation can easily be wrong. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Larger installer screen
by Andrew Peckover 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi, _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Does anyone know if it is possible to make the default screen presented in the Installer any wider? Specifically, in the Custom Install screen, I would like the Package Name column to be wider, without the user having to adjust the widths of the columns. So if there was a way to specify the width of the column, or make the entire screen wider, either of those solutions would work. Also, does anyone know a trick to have it display a specific size of the install rather than having the installer determine the size automatically. For example, if a user installs the program, then deletes it, and then reinstalls later, it is still listed as an "upgrade" with "size 0". Of course if I delete the receipt after installation it would act as a fresh install next time, but I have previously been advised not to use a script to delete receipts. Thanks, Andrew This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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RE: LaunchAgents in Tiger
by Ryan McGann 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com This excellent technote explains is it all: http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/technotes/tn2005/tn2083.html Ryan _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Hi, perhaps this is a little off topic, but I thought that LaunchAgents was introduced in Tiger and was working ok? It seems ok when I test it, but this is on a 10.4.11 machine. Do you have these problems only on earlier versions of Tiger, or is it Tiger in general? In Tiger there is only one launchd instance, so LaunchAgents are not loaded correctly because they are launched by the root launchd instance. This causes all kinds of problems, especially when you logout, or somebody logs in via SSH. In Leopard and later, there are multiple launchd instances, one for each user logged into the machine and attached to the graphics console, so launchd can load LaunchAgents into the appropriate user bootstrap namespace. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: LaunchAgents in Tiger
by Iceberg-Dev 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding :from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=X2eqa6LNWNn6zRbQk2liSEd49aP2oXx5zPZ0i7C8Y98=; b=b9Bv9BQdTVR3Lpuw1CwSANiN9qWG/cb6t25niQOQa9ZcKWv9IyQ1uhRx8vacDUKcr+ 35tJhQx1JtQ2nwdUndHg3CjnzHf2M4ylDt4ksE7fPaF9W3qmILMO43Wlo+VjRNs+0Nf3 NxZ4SedpaQRlTvJ4oFTe9FLYI/zmlQe7OMhE0= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=aMAREgQbl4Niwz5QkyRjEE91xoRdJNnwGfO6Ce+v6FqqzUSEkISf21mnXa7/2Ezh/v ufCtK/oUxRwttUY9tQarFH+EiQVy9e3JXTnqlSfW6uvGbIT7iNfAnoTEK8eWl+NDR8eI VFgMzm/MCcatZosbxcai5Q/ilvHwIlq22LmAA= On Sep 30, 2009, at 12:05 PM, Glover,David wrote: Hi, perhaps this is a little off topic, but I thought that LaunchAgents was introduced in Tiger and was working ok? It seems ok when I test it, but this is on a 10.4.11 machine. Do you have these problems only on earlier versions of Tiger, or is it Tiger in general? LaunchAgents were introduced in Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger but started working correctly in Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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RE: LaunchAgents in Tiger
by Glover,David 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AcpBtrymdb8aCsgtSlK0VN+5Fup8HgAAIdnQ Thread-topic: LaunchAgents in Tiger Mine looks like this... <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd"> <plist version="1.0"> <dict> <key>Label</key> <string>Application Name</string> <key>ProgramArguments</key> <array> <string>/usr/bin/scriptname</string> </array> <key>RunAtLoad</key> <true/> </dict> </plist> This works ok on my 10.4.11 (Intel) mac... Regards, Dave -----Original Message----- From: Sachin Srivastava [mailto:sachin.srivastava@enterprisedb.com] Sent: 30 September 2009 11:11 To: Glover,David Cc: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Subject: Re: LaunchAgents in Tiger Hello, Thanks a lot for all your answers. I have a 10.4.11 PPC machine. and the problem is still present in it. Can you tell what all you have included in your plist file? On 09/30/2009 03:35 PM, Glover,David wrote: > Hi, perhaps this is a little off topic, but I thought that LaunchAgents > was introduced in Tiger and was working ok? It seems ok when I test it, > but this is on a 10.4.11 machine. Do you have these problems only on > earlier versions of Tiger, or is it Tiger in general? > > Regards > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: > installer-dev-bounces+david.glover=prometheanworld.com(a)lists.apple.com > [mailto:installer-dev-bounces+david.glover=prometheanworld.com@lists.app > le.com] On Behalf Of Ryan McGann > Sent: 30 September 2009 03:42 > To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com > Subject: Re: LaunchAgents in Tiger > > On Sep 29, 2009, at 12:07 PM, installer-dev-request(a)lists.apple.com > wrote: > > >> Hello all, >> >> My installer install a program, which i needed to run at user-login. >> Now >> for the same i have written a LaunchAgent but the problem is it is not >> launching at user-login. >> >> I put the plist file at /Library/LaunchAgents >> >> Also when logged in, if from terminal, if i fire: >> >> launchctl load /Library/LaunchAgents/com.launchd.myprogram.plist >> (which >> has RunAtLoad = true). >> >> In the /var/log/system.log i get >> launchd[2..2] com.launchd.myprogram:exited abnormally: Abort Trap >> >> However, if i run : >> >> sudo launchctl load /Library/LaunchAgents/com.launchd.myprogram.plist >> >> Everything works fine. >> >> I tried the same on a leopard and snow leopard box and everything >> works >> fine there without any problem. What is is that i am missing in Tiger? >> > LaunchAgents are broken in Tiger. You must be using Leopard to use > them. In Tiger, you can modify the LoginItems directly hwich is > technically unsupported, but I doubt Apple is going to break it now. > Google should be able to find you the code to modify the > com.apple.loginwindow.plist, or you can just open it up in Tiger and > figure it out--it's not terribly difficult. > > Ryan > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/david.glover%40prom > etheanworld.com > > This email sent to david.glover(a)prometheanworld.com > > Promethean Limited is a company registered in England and Wales with company number 1308938 and VAT number GB 572 2599 18 > ______________________________________________ > > Promethean Ltd and or associated and or subsidiary companies : > > The views expressed in this communication may not necessarily be > the views held by Promethean Ltd and or associated and or subsidiary companies. > > This e-mail is for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). Unauthorised > disclosure, copying or distribution is prohibited. > > This e-mail message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. > > Promethean Ltd and or associated and or subsidiary companies accepts no liability for any loss resulting from this email transmission. > > Promethean, Promethean House, Lower Philips Road, Blackburn, Lancashire, BB1 5TH, UK. Please update your records accordingly. Thank you! > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/sachin.srivastava%4 0enterprisedb.com > > This email sent to sachin.srivastava(a)enterprisedb.com > -- Regards, Sachin Srivastava www.enterprisedb.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: LaunchAgents in Tiger
by Sachin Srivastava 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1) Gecko/20090814 Fedora/3.0-2.6.b3.fc11 Thunderbird/3.0b3 Hello, Thanks a lot for all your answers. I have a 10.4.11 PPC machine. and the problem is still present in it. Can you tell what all you have included in your plist file? Hi, perhaps this is a little off topic, but I thought that LaunchAgents was introduced in Tiger and was working ok? It seems ok when I test it, but this is on a 10.4.11 machine. Do you have these problems only on earlier versions of Tiger, or is it Tiger in general? Regards Dave -----Original Message----- From: installer-dev-bounces+david.glover=prometheanworld.com(a)lists.apple.com [mailto:installer-dev-bounces+david.glover=prometheanworld.com@lists.app le.com] On Behalf Of Ryan McGann Sent: 30 September 2009 03:42 To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Subject: Re: LaunchAgents in Tiger On Sep 29, 2009, at 12:07 PM, installer-dev-request(a)lists.apple.com wrote: Hello all, My installer install a program, which i needed to run at user-login. Now for the same i have written a LaunchAgent but the problem is it is not launching at user-login. I put the plist file at /Library/LaunchAgents Also when logged in, if from terminal, if i fire: launchctl load /Library/LaunchAgents/com.launchd.myprogram.plist (which has RunAtLoad = true). In the /var/log/system.log i get launchd[2..2] com.launchd.myprogram:exited abnormally: Abort Trap However, if i run : sudo launchctl load /Library/LaunchAgents/com.launchd.myprogram.plist Everything works fine. LaunchAgents are broken in Tiger. You must be using Leopard to use them. In Tiger, you can modify the LoginItems directly hwich is technically unsupported, but I doubt Apple is going to break it now. Google should be able to find you the code to modify the com.apple.loginwindow.plist, or you can just open it up in Tiger and figure it out--it's not terribly difficult. Ryan _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/david.glover%40prom etheanworld.com This email sent to david.glover(a)prometheanworld.com Promethean Limited is a company registered in England and Wales with company number 1308938 and VAT number GB 572 2599 18 ______________________________________________ Promethean Ltd and or associated and or subsidiary companies : The views expressed in this communication may not necessarily be the views held by Promethean Ltd and or associated and or subsidiary companies. This e-mail is for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). Unauthorised disclosure, copying or distribution is prohibited. This e-mail message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Promethean Ltd and or associated and or subsidiary companies accepts no liability for any loss resulting from this email transmission. Promethean, Promethean House, Lower Philips Road, Blackburn, Lancashire, BB1 5TH, UK. Please update your records accordingly. Thank you! _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/sachin.srivastava%40en… -- Regards, Sachin Srivastava www.enterprisedb.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… On 09/30/2009 03:35 PM, Glover,David wrote: I tried the same on a leopard and snow leopard box and everything works fine there without any problem. What is is that i am missing in Tiger? This email sent to sachin.srivastava(a)enterprisedb.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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RE: LaunchAgents in Tiger
by Glover,David 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AcpBd+TgAQHix/hjRTic2LgUA3cUxQAPUtJw Thread-topic: LaunchAgents in Tiger Hi, perhaps this is a little off topic, but I thought that LaunchAgents was introduced in Tiger and was working ok? It seems ok when I test it, but this is on a 10.4.11 machine. Do you have these problems only on earlier versions of Tiger, or is it Tiger in general? Regards Dave -----Original Message----- From: installer-dev-bounces+david.glover=prometheanworld.com(a)lists.apple.com [mailto:installer-dev-bounces+david.glover=prometheanworld.com@lists.app le.com] On Behalf Of Ryan McGann Sent: 30 September 2009 03:42 To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Subject: Re: LaunchAgents in Tiger On Sep 29, 2009, at 12:07 PM, installer-dev-request(a)lists.apple.com wrote: > Hello all, > > My installer install a program, which i needed to run at user-login. > Now > for the same i have written a LaunchAgent but the problem is it is not > launching at user-login. > > I put the plist file at /Library/LaunchAgents > > Also when logged in, if from terminal, if i fire: > > launchctl load /Library/LaunchAgents/com.launchd.myprogram.plist > (which > has RunAtLoad = true). > > In the /var/log/system.log i get > launchd[2..2] com.launchd.myprogram:exited abnormally: Abort Trap > > However, if i run : > > sudo launchctl load /Library/LaunchAgents/com.launchd.myprogram.plist > > Everything works fine. > > I tried the same on a leopard and snow leopard box and everything > works > fine there without any problem. What is is that i am missing in Tiger? LaunchAgents are broken in Tiger. You must be using Leopard to use them. In Tiger, you can modify the LoginItems directly hwich is technically unsupported, but I doubt Apple is going to break it now. Google should be able to find you the code to modify the com.apple.loginwindow.plist, or you can just open it up in Tiger and figure it out--it's not terribly difficult. Ryan _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/david.glover%40prom etheanworld.com This email sent to david.glover(a)prometheanworld.com Promethean Limited is a company registered in England and Wales with company number 1308938 and VAT number GB 572 2599 18 ______________________________________________ Promethean Ltd and or associated and or subsidiary companies : The views expressed in this communication may not necessarily be the views held by Promethean Ltd and or associated and or subsidiary companies. This e-mail is for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). Unauthorised disclosure, copying or distribution is prohibited. This e-mail message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Promethean Ltd and or associated and or subsidiary companies accepts no liability for any loss resulting from this email transmission. Promethean, Promethean House, Lower Philips Road, Blackburn, Lancashire, BB1 5TH, UK. Please update your records accordingly. Thank you! _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: LaunchAgents in Tiger
by Ryan McGann 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hello all, I put the plist file at /Library/LaunchAgents Also when logged in, if from terminal, if i fire: In the /var/log/system.log i get launchd[2..2] com.launchd.myprogram:exited abnormally: Abort Trap However, if i run : sudo launchctl load /Library/LaunchAgents/com.launchd.myprogram.plist Everything works fine. Ryan _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… On Sep 29, 2009, at 12:07 PM, installer-dev-request(a)lists.apple.com wrote: My installer install a program, which i needed to run at user-login. Now for the same i have written a LaunchAgent but the problem is it is not launching at user-login. launchctl load /Library/LaunchAgents/com.launchd.myprogram.plist (which has RunAtLoad = true). I tried the same on a leopard and snow leopard box and everything works fine there without any problem. What is is that i am missing in Tiger? LaunchAgents are broken in Tiger. You must be using Leopard to use them. In Tiger, you can modify the LoginItems directly hwich is technically unsupported, but I doubt Apple is going to break it now. Google should be able to find you the code to modify the com.apple.loginwindow.plist, or you can just open it up in Tiger and figure it out--it's not terribly difficult. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: LaunchAgents in Tiger
by Grant Erickson 29 Sep '09

29 Sep '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Organization: Nuovation System Designs, LLC Thread-index: AcpBRinmIAuATSRV1kyzC1NyLozing== Thread-topic: LaunchAgents in Tiger User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.20.0.090605 On 9/29/09 9:48 AM, Sachin Srivastava wrote: > My installer install a program, which i needed to run at user-login. Now > for the same i have written a LaunchAgent but the problem is it is not > launching at user-login. > > I put the plist file at /Library/LaunchAgents > > Also when logged in, if from terminal, if i fire: > > launchctl load /Library/LaunchAgents/com.launchd.myprogram.plist (which > has RunAtLoad = true). > > In the /var/log/system.log i get > launchd[2..2] com.launchd.myprogram:exited abnormally: Abort Trap > > However, if i run : > > sudo launchctl load /Library/LaunchAgents/com.launchd.myprogram.plist > > Everything works fine. > > I tried the same on a leopard and snow leopard box and everything works > fine there without any problem. What is is that i am missing in Tiger? Sachin: I'd recommend you read: http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/technotes/tn2005/tn2083.html LaunchAgents are, unfortunately, seemingly DOA (dead on arrival) in Tiger. Regards, Grant _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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LaunchAgents in Tiger
by Sachin Srivastava 29 Sep '09

29 Sep '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1) Gecko/20090814 Fedora/3.0-2.6.b3.fc11 Thunderbird/3.0b3 Hello all, I put the plist file at /Library/LaunchAgents Also when logged in, if from terminal, if i fire: In the /var/log/system.log i get launchd[2..2] com.launchd.myprogram:exited abnormally: Abort Trap However, if i run : sudo launchctl load /Library/LaunchAgents/com.launchd.myprogram.plist Everything works fine. -- Regards, Sachin Srivastava www.enterprisedb.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… My installer install a program, which i needed to run at user-login. Now for the same i have written a LaunchAgent but the problem is it is not launching at user-login. launchctl load /Library/LaunchAgents/com.launchd.myprogram.plist (which has RunAtLoad = true). I tried the same on a leopard and snow leopard box and everything works fine there without any problem. What is is that i am missing in Tiger? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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