October 2010 - Installer-dev

Re: How does installer decide what to install
by Stephane Sudre 21 Oct '10

21 Oct '10

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Re: How does installer decide what to install
by Alexander Cohen 21 Oct '10

21 Oct '10

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Heres what i've got. I have a metapackage create with PackageMaker 2.0 that contains 4 packages also created with 2.0. The version numbers of all packages and metapackes have been bumped up and the identifiers have not changed. When i run the old metapackage over the new one, it just runs through as an upgrade and installs everything. If i run each of the old packages over the new install, each package wont let me install and says a newer version already exists on disk. This is the right behavior but users wont install like that. So why wont the old metapackage either not replace anything on disk or just tell the user that there is a newer version disk. thx AC On Oct 20, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Iceberg-Dev wrote: > > On Oct 20, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Alexander Cohen wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Is there a reference anywhere that explains in detail how install decisions are made by Apple's installer? I'm looking for info on what items it looks at to make the informed decisions it makes ( plists, bundle identifiers, receipts, ... ). >> >> The reason i'm asking is because we have some old software that always gets installed over newer versions of the same software but the installers are built form the same project and the versions have been bumped > > If the bundle identifiers of the packages are different, it can be a reason why an older version can be installed over a newer one. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/alexcohen%40toomuchspa… > > This email sent to alexcohen(a)toomuchspace.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: How does installer decide what to install
by Iceberg-Dev 20 Oct '10

20 Oct '10

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How does installer decide what to install
by Alexander Cohen 20 Oct '10

20 Oct '10

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hello, Is there a reference anywhere that explains in detail how install decisions are made by Apple's installer? I'm looking for info on what items it looks at to make the informed decisions it makes ( plists, bundle identifiers, receipts, ... ). The reason i'm asking is because we have some old software that always gets installed over newer versions of the same software but the installers are built form the same project and the versions have been bumped. thx AC _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Installer.app scripts sandboxed on 10.5?
by Neal 12 Oct '10

12 Oct '10

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Re: Installer.app scripts sandboxed on 10.5?
by Bill Coderre 12 Oct '10

12 Oct '10

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Re: Installer.app scripts sandboxed on 10.5?
by David Buxton 12 Oct '10

12 Oct '10

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On 12 Oct 2010, at 21:15, Neal wrote: > This works fine on 10.6, but when the Installer is run on 10.5 ps -ec returns > only the applications started in the current shell. i.e. it get's this > > > PID TTY TIME CMD > Oct 11 15:55:24 xxx runner[6672]: postflight[6753]: 4015 ttys000 0:00.02 > login > Oct 11 15:55:24 xxx runner[6672]: postflight[6753]: 4016 ttys000 0:00.20 > -bash > Oct 11 15:55:24 xxx runner[6672]: postflight[6753]: 6669 ttys000 0:00.56 > installer > > > Is there anything I can do on 10.5 to get this to work?? Does it make any difference if you try `ps axcww` instead of `ps -ec` ? David B. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Installer.app scripts sandboxed on 10.5?
by Neal 12 Oct '10

12 Oct '10

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Re: Preinstall and postinstall logs occur in error logs
by kushal ghosh 11 Oct '10

11 Oct '10

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Re: Installer Crash
by Stephane Sudre 08 Oct '10

08 Oct '10

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