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Re: Where do I start?
by Allan Marcus 06 Mar '10

06 Mar '10

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Go it! I still think Apple needs some docs and some examples. Here's how I am checking to see if an app is running: 1) In the requirements tab I add a new requirement 2) In the "If" dropdown I select "Result of JavaScript" 3) for the function: I enter: app_check('Firefox') 4) In the script repository I enter: function app_check(str_to_check) { var my_apps = system.applications.all(); var len = my_apps.length; for(var i = 0; i < len; i++) { var app_value = my_apps[i]; if (app_value['BundlePath'] != undefined) { if(app_value['BundlePath'].indexOf(str_to_check) !=-1 ) { return false; } } } return true; } 5) I set the error message to the appropriate value. This check works in both the GUI and the CLI, so it will stop a silent install too. Monday I will test with puppet and I'm hopeful this will work. It would be nice if the install would give the user a chance to rectify the situation by giving the user the opportunity to quit the program in question. Any idea on how to do that? Thanks, Allan _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Background graphics for DMGs (again)
by Xochitl Lunde 05 Mar '10

05 Mar '10

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com > Background for Disk Images are broken, kaput, par terre in Snow > Leopard. As soon as you set a background picture on a disk image in > Snow Leopard, the nightmare begins. The background picture will not > show up on Mac OS X 10.5 most of the time. Sometimes even setting it > later on 10.5 will change nothing. > > And if you set your background picture on 10.5 or earlier, you will > need to take into account a different margin at the bottom of the > disk image. > > Disk Images are nice but they suffer from a lot of issues when it > comes to background pictures, icon alignment and icon view mode. On > some occasions, when working on disk images, stay far away from the > walls or you could hurt yourself. > They are broken, but DMG Canvas gets pretty close to fixing it at least for backward compatibility to 10.5. There's a preference to enable Leopard compatibility, and it does work! You're right about the margin at the bottom. I am lucky, because the shape of my background image doesn't look too bad with some extra whitespace at the bottom. So I have used the "Fit to image" button on DMG Canvas, and then I add about 40 pixels to the height of the canvas. The entire image shows up on both platforms, but one has more whitespace at the bottom than the other. I suggest you make your artwork such that it will look OK whether the bottom of it lines up prefectly or not. If I had the Adium background picture with the grass, I would make sure to have extra grass at the bottom to compensate for the difference.

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Re: Background graphics for DMGs (again)
by Iceberg-Dev 05 Mar '10

05 Mar '10

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Re: How to test to see if a program is running?
by Iceberg-Dev 05 Mar '10

05 Mar '10

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from :subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=0GvUHwUidLFdFV4Zc1KfqOLZOiMMOI8oah9xYesORq4=; b=jxLXRgjOBhl3zEi09TtgrjN15ylhGyUn51eO2oTTGeQBnVFuvAlNYWUVTOkZSkFWCZ 6yl3yEQ6Ci743G767UXqu14Fg5zUCTwz6iEsmI5A22zW1V92FIec1r7BMPAQpf51ensh ydG6Vzj1OLoBFIiOFefpxBVTXTUCt4cTc132Q= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=TQy3YKQyhoIZsr1Gi2xliC7Ir0ec7So7w2aSPrgg8j3cT2FCaXUM7lXBo/MZeCUe5+ 6000QhR9YZEXZB45QadyTb1Ba2E0r0GX1Z1JnlEb5YzwUf//gfpwOHj9G5rCRFrnXLNf NAmsjJqYH89b9bNZ8IQDehFqrPlAbrNACmgpk= On Mar 5, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Allan Marcus wrote: Please let me clarify. questions: 1) what should the script return to indicate pass or fail? exit 0 for pass exit 1 for fail ? Whatever you want. The exit value is the value returned by system.run. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I see that I can have a script run for system requirements. I cannot find any documentation on how to use this feature. I have a test.sh script that I put into the script path field. 2) the script doesn't seem to get included in the package. In the installer log when I run the installer it appears the install is trying to run the script from the original location. Yes, this is a known bug. I reported on my side probably more than a year ago. The only solution I know so far to work around this issue is to build a bundle distribution (this means choosing 10.4 as the target in PackageMaker). Then you need to edit the distribution script and copy the script in the Resources folder. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Background graphics for DMGs (again)
by Xochitl Lunde 05 Mar '10

05 Mar '10

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com <installer-dev-bounces+xochitl_lunde=tripplite.com(a)lists.apple.com> wrote on 03/05/2010 02:59:17 PM: > You didn't mention DMG Canvas in your list. I've started using it > recently and they claim to fix this bug. > > http://www.araelium.com/dmgcanvas/ > > I can't verify this claim personally, however. > Yes sorry, I didn't put DMG Canvas in the list because that was the list of *alternatives* to DMG Canvas which I was planning on trying to see if I could get around the weird text wrapping. DMG Canvas' claims to support backward compatibility to Leopard are holding up in my environment. DMG Canvas is an excellent program so far, and I would be surprised if one of the others turned out to be better. The one from skoobysoft looks like it's the most promising of the alternatives, but I am not really wanting to switch because I like how easy it is to use DMG Canvas. Xo

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Re: Background graphics for DMGs (again)
by Xochitl Lunde 05 Mar '10

05 Mar '10

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Kevin Brock <apple(a)kevin.com> wrote on 03/05/2010 02:34:03 PM: > On Mar 5, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Xochitl Lunde wrote: > > I have recently spent several days testing with the DMG Canvas tool > from Araelium group. http://www.araelium.com/dmgcanvas/ Version 2.0 > released last month does build backward compatible disk images from > Snow Leopard and the background does show up for me. There's a > Preferences menu in the DMG Canvas drop down from the menu bar, and > you have to check the box to enable backward compatibility. (I am > only targeting Leopard and Snow Leopard, I haven't checked Tiger.) > > I noticed that they state on their web-site that it's a problem > Apple acknowledges but doesn't intend to fix. I know Apple > sometimes doesn't worry about backwards compatibility much, but come on... XO: Yea, I thought that was lame too. I don't know how Araelium figured out that Apple doesn't intend to fix it. Maybe they had a developer ticket at some point? > I have noted a few things when building: > * Leopard and Snow Leopard wrap text at different widths. I > can't seem to get around this. Because my background has a very > "inside-the-box" feel, I've had to mess with the font size to get it > to fit on both platforms. > * When I build for backward compatibility using Snow Leopard, > DMG Canvas changes the way the file name text appears. Instead of > having text wrap, it is only allowed to be a fixed size which looks > just a little wider than the icon itself. So my Applications alias > can show up as "App...ns". To get around this, I made the icons > bigger, and the text smaller. It still doesn't look as good, and I > am still getting around to trying the other suggested packaging tools. > > I don't think that text wrapping will be a show stopper for us. XO: It's not a show stopper for me either, I just really disliked the fact that I couldn't see the entire word 'Applications' on the image without a little tweaking. The names of my other files are pretty long, so it's not such a big deal on those ones. > > So far, I only really got to try out the FreeDMG alternative suggested from > kelleycomputing.net. I didn't like this one, I didn't see a way to > add a background image. I started trying the iDMG tool from nscoding.co.uk > , but I was slightly confused when it came up and so I have only > gotten partway through reading the manual. > > I took a look at both of those, and they seemed a) clunky, with > poorly designed interfaces and b) poorly documented, which is often > connected to (a) a bit. On the other hand, if I can make them do > what we need, it'll be worth the pain. iDMG didn't appear to help > with the background images. > > I also ran across DMG Packager. They say they have a fix for the > image problem with SL, but haven't had a chance to test it yet XO: I need to clarify, that FreeDMG and iDMG were the *alternatives* I tried to DMG Canvas. So far, DMG Canvas is the best one I have tried, and I have verified that it does work in a backward compatible fashion. I have not had any problems with my backgrounds being missing since using DMG Canvas with its backward compatibility option turned on, so long as I make sure not to move the disk image files around in my file system before building with DMG Canvas. > . . . > > Can you point out any of the web discussions you referenced? I > would like to see those too, because I think you and I are trying to > do similar things. My software is also built on Snow Leopard only > because some of our developers only have Snow Leopard. > > I'll see if I can track down the links. I wasn't saving pointers atthe time. > > > Was DMG Canvas one of the commercial disk image builders you tried? > Which ones have you tried that have not worked? I'm planning to try > the following if time allows: > > No. We've been looking at DMG Architect, iDMG, Free DMG & DMG > Packager. We've been talking with the folks at DMG Architect about > the problem, but don't have a resolution. I need to do more testing > with DMG Packager before I know how that'll work. Just ran across it. > > * FileStorm (haven't tried yet) > > Haven't tried that yet either. > > * DMG Packager ( www.skoobysoft.com/utilities/dmgp.html - > haven't tried yet ) > * FreeDMG ( www.kelleycomputing.net/freedmg - I tried this one, > it was just drag and drop your folder and it packaged it. Doesn't > look like it does much in the way of allowing configurable > presentation of the disk image folder ) > * iDMG ( www.nscoding.co.uk - I downloaded this, but I didn't > get through reading the manual yet. ) > > I didn't see a manual for iDMG anywhere. The download just has the > app. Where did you find it? XO: Now that I am looking at it again, I can't find it. My route to nscoding.co.uk seems to be broken now also. Maybe I was thinking of a different program. Sorry, if I find it, I'll let you know. > > Kevin

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Re: Background graphics for DMGs (again)
by JT Burgess 05 Mar '10

05 Mar '10

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Re: Background graphics for DMGs (again)
by Kevin Brock 05 Mar '10

05 Mar '10

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Re: Background graphics for DMGs (again)
by Kevin Brock 05 Mar '10

05 Mar '10

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com I have recently spent several days testing with the DMG Canvas tool from Araelium group. http://www.araelium.com/dmgcanvas/ Version 2.0 released last month does build backward compatible disk images from Snow Leopard and the background does show up for me. There's a Preferences menu in the DMG Canvas drop down from the menu bar, and you have to check the box to enable backward compatibility. (I am only targeting Leopard and Snow Leopard, I haven't checked Tiger.) I have noted a few things when building: * Leopard and Snow Leopard wrap text at different widths. I can't seem to get around this. Because my background has a very "inside-the-box" feel, I've had to mess with the font size to get it to fit on both platforms. * When I build for backward compatibility using Snow Leopard, DMG Canvas changes the way the file name text appears. Instead of having text wrap, it is only allowed to be a fixed size which looks just a little wider than the icon itself. So my Applications alias can show up as "App...ns". To get around this, I made the icons bigger, and the text smaller. It still doesn't look as good, and I am still getting around to trying the other suggested packaging tools. So far, I only really got to try out the FreeDMG alternative suggested from kelleycomputing.net. I didn't like this one, I didn't see a way to add a background image. I started trying the iDMG tool from nscoding.co.uk, but I was slightly confused when it came up and so I have only gotten partway through reading the manual. Can you point out any of the web discussions you referenced? I would like to see those too, because I think you and I are trying to do similar things. My software is also built on Snow Leopard only because some of our developers only have Snow Leopard. Was DMG Canvas one of the commercial disk image builders you tried? Which ones have you tried that have not worked? I'm planning to try the following if time allows: * FileStorm (haven't tried yet) * DMG Packager ( www.skoobysoft.com/utilities/dmgp.html - haven't tried yet ) * FreeDMG ( www.kelleycomputing.net/freedmg - I tried this one, it was just drag and drop your folder and it packaged it. Doesn't look like it does much in the way of allowing configurable presentation of the disk image folder ) * iDMG ( www.nscoding.co.uk - I downloaded this, but I didn't get through reading the manual yet. )

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Re: Background graphics for DMGs (again)
by Xochitl Lunde 05 Mar '10

05 Mar '10

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com <installer-dev-bounces+xochitl_lunde=tripplite.com(a)lists.apple.com> wrote on 03/05/2010 01:16:55 PM: > Is there any new info on this topic? We've run into problems > setting custom backgrounds on 10.6 even for use on 10.6. We've seen > several variations on the steps, and none of them are working for us. > > We've tried setting the image using the view properties (cmd-J), > we've tried setting the background using code like this (from a > script posted by Paul Sanders: > > mkdir "/Volumes/$vol/.background" > cp install_resources/DMG_background.jpg "/Volumes/$vol/. > background/background.jpg" > > echo ' > tell application "Finder" > tell disk "'$vol'" > open > set theViewOptions to the icon view options of container window > set background picture of theViewOptions to file ". > background:background.jpg" > update without registering applications > delay 5 > end tell > end tell > ' | osascript > > If we set it manually through the view properties it shows up--but > only until we unmount the image. Then it's gone when we remount it. > If we set it using AppleScript while we're building the image it > looks like it works, there are no error messages and all the files > are there on the resulting image, but no background image shows up. > We've tried a couple of commercial disk image builders, and both of > them had the same problem on 10.6. BG images weren't just missing > on earlier versions of the OS, they weren't there on 10.6 either. > > I've seen several discussions about this on the web, but none of > them have had a resolution. > > We've seen different variations of "Build your disk images on 10.5", > but since our main build depends on Xcode 3.2, this isn't really an > acceptable solution. If we can't build proper images on 10.6 even > for distribution on 10.6, then something's screwy... > > Hoping we've missed something obvious, > Kevin > I have recently spent several days testing with the DMG Canvas tool from Araelium group. http://www.araelium.com/dmgcanvas/ Version 2.0 released last month does build backward compatible disk images from Snow Leopard and the background does show up for me. There's a Preferences menu in the DMG Canvas drop down from the menu bar, and you have to check the box to enable backward compatibility. (I am only targeting Leopard and Snow Leopard, I haven't checked Tiger.) I have noted a few things when building: * Leopard and Snow Leopard wrap text at different widths. I can't seem to get around this. Because my background has a very "inside-the-box" feel, I've had to mess with the font size to get it to fit on both platforms. * When I build for backward compatibility using Snow Leopard, DMG Canvas changes the way the file name text appears. Instead of having text wrap, it is only allowed to be a fixed size which looks just a little wider than the icon itself. So my Applications alias can show up as "App...ns". To get around this, I made the icons bigger, and the text smaller. It still doesn't look as good, and I am still getting around to trying the other suggested packaging tools. * If I build the same project in Leopard, the text does not truncate like mentioned above. I have emailed the Araelium Group about it. I tried paying for the program, but the text editing stuff that is unlocked doesn't solve the problem. If more people would email them, maybe it would help get this fixed. So far, I only really got to try out the FreeDMG alternative suggested from kelleycomputing.net. I didn't like this one, I didn't see a way to add a background image. I started trying the iDMG tool from nscoding.co.uk, but I was slightly confused when it came up and so I have only gotten partway through reading the manual. Oh another thing about using DMG Canvas. You should open your project, save it somewhere, close out, move it where you want it (like if you need to check it into SVN) and THEN reopen and add your files. I had much better luck when I did this. Also make sure that the files you put in your DMG Canvas project are always in the same spot they were the last time you built. So if your background was on your desktop when you created the project, it needs to still be on your desktop every time you build. Can you point out any of the web discussions you referenced? I would like to see those too, because I think you and I are trying to do similar things. My software is also built on Snow Leopard only because some of our developers only have Snow Leopard. Was DMG Canvas one of the commercial disk image builders you tried? Which ones have you tried that have not worked? I'm planning to try the following if time allows: * FileStorm (haven't tried yet) * DMG Packager ( www.skoobysoft.com/utilities/dmgp.html - haven't tried yet ) * FreeDMG ( www.kelleycomputing.net/freedmg - I tried this one, it was just drag and drop your folder and it packaged it. Doesn't look like it does much in the way of allowing configurable presentation of the disk image folder ) * iDMG ( www.nscoding.co.uk - I downloaded this, but I didn't get through reading the manual yet. ) Xo

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