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PackageMaker Requirements always returning true
by Kari McNair 26 Jul '10

26 Jul '10

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Re: Verifying signature
by Eli Bach 23 Jul '10

23 Jul '10

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=4WPbfUvqxJL+Ye04gHkE5OSAVVosccMv8PzVWXSKwtw=; b=nvgv/RGsqsbrv5KbOm0V6x4olnv6pmT3KoKE15wq+5oaicl0X5eHFO98ssncW2co8a N665epp1yxjr/2Un0UfaP44q1IooeKbeHGOFat/dOHnX3hFAwzb/G+1RHBwpSEgrhe2T eeC9Sq/itlHEtJAWrFrdj1WC8j9/XY7Nhgs9s= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=UTTpRiB+/Pe7rVuy0bBTOWRym+2cRYreKfFFqk0eEt9tsQyNulj7uA2DnSvSG11uIs 9Hh2fS6Wm6t4WsuQu9hknlPOL3AGKLAdxMlUPa2ISyIxbOY4rvZ7Ks2z+u9rDm3WuwM/ ZZGK05Yoexg6CIaPUv2steezBs8GZee/qa9v4= On Jul 23, 2010, at 6:43 AM, sakshi wrote: > Sorry if this is an oft discussed topic but I could not find any > specific answer for it. I am signing my pkg using packagemaker --sign. > I found no way of verifying the signature. One of the discussions > mentioned that Installer includes UI for verifying the identity but I > could not find any such thing. Does anyone know of any technique? > > Secondly, when I try to sign, the system throws an authentication > dialog. I tried invoking the command with sudo yet I could not work > around it. I would like to be able to build and sign the installer on > any machine and manually selecting Always Allow on all machines is not > an option. Is there any way to sign silently? > > Thanks, > Sakshi For signed packages, when you open them in Installer.app, a certificate icon will appear in the upper right corner of the window, in the window frame. You can click on it and the certificate information will be displayed [it's validity, who signed it]. I don't know what happens if the signature is found to be invalid. Eli _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Verifying signature
by sakshi 23 Jul '10

23 Jul '10

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running packageMaker scripts
by Peter Whitefield 22 Jul '10

22 Jul '10

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Organization: AT Veterinary Systems Thanks for you help, _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Hi, I'm just learning how to drive package maker and have 3 questions (should this be 3 emails ?): Q1: I have created a package which runs its InstallationCheck script, however I've been unable to use my defined messages. How should this be done ? popdown says: "Example Package 2 can't be installed on this computer." "The specified message could not be found for the index 16" 3 InstallationCheck.strings files have been included in the package: example2/scripts/en.lproj/InstallationCheck.strings example2/scripts/English.lproj/InstallationCheck.strings example2/scripts/InstallationCheck.strings Q2: The InstallationCheck script above only seems to run in a PKJaguarPackage type package. Can LeopardPackage's run the InstallationCheck script ? Jul 22 15:31:01 petermac3 installd[76184]: PackageKit: packages=(\n "PKLeopardPackage <file://localhost/Users/atvision/tests/2010-07-22-example-packages/example1.pkg#example1.pkg>"\n) Jul 22 15:40:01 petermac3 installd[76360]: PackageKit: packages=(\n "PKJaguarPackage <file://localhost/Users/atvision/tests/2010-07-22-example-packages/example2.pkg>"\n) Q3: Can the popdown detailed below be avoided by using alternative requirements (java)scripts ? popdown: "This package will run a program to determine if the software can be installed" "To keep your computer secure, you should only run programs or install software from a trusted source. ... click cancel ..." Peter Whitefield Programmer This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Install file only if it exists on target?
by Bill Coderre 19 Jul '10

19 Jul '10

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Re: Install file only if it exists on target?
by Kari McNair 19 Jul '10

19 Jul '10

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Re: What causes this message?
by Bill Coderre 15 Jul '10

15 Jul '10

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Jul 15, 2010, at 11:39 AM, koko(a)highrolls.net wrote: > "The installer could not install some files in "/Applications". Contact the software manufacturer for assistance." It means the package has an error. More specific information is in the installation log. If installer is still running, hit CMD-L to show log, CMD-3 to show all details, and then look at the log. If installer is no longer running, the log as at /var/log/install.log, but that file is probably huge. Note that logs get "turned over" so if it's been a while, the specific logging might be in a zipped up log file nearby. Most errors are pretty straightforward. If you get an error that says something about difficulties reading the archive or the BOM, that means that the actual compressed archive or its accompanying metadata file are malformed, most likely because someone downloaded the installer from a server and the copy contained errors. (Rare.) If you are making your own archive and BOM, your methods might be incorrect. It's also possible that they are technically correct, but you're installing on an older version of Mac OS that can't figure them out. The other likely culprit in this case is that for whatever reason, Installer cannot write to /Applications. Two likely cases: 1) Your installer is not asking for root authorization, and therefore is running as the logged-in user. (Likely) 2) Installer is running as root, but /Applications is not writeable by root. (Very unusual; not sure if possible) _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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What causes this message?
by koko＠highrolls.net 15 Jul '10

15 Jul '10

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Re: description read only?
by Jon Hodgson 09 Jul '10

09 Jul '10

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Re: description read only?
by Andrew Peckover 09 Jul '10

09 Jul '10

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Andrew What's displayed above is out of phase with what is going to happen, it says "upgrade" but it's actually going to downgrade... maybe that results in something not working (I can only guarantee forward compatibility). I'm finding this all very frustrating because the whole distribution package thing on OS X is so close to being great, but it has what to me seem like big omissions (surely the distribution file should have pre-install and post-install functions? after all you had them on meta-packages), and what's the point in only being able to read the description in the script? And more importantly, it seems to be buggy, or there's a glaring hole in the documentation which means that I'm missing something on versions. On Jul 8, 2010, at 10:08 PM, Jon Hodgson wrote: Nothing stupid about the question. Your suggestion is one possibility, another, given that the the installer displays "upgrade" whether it's an upgrade, downgrade, or just overwriting the same version, would be to add some information..."you currently have a newer version 2.0.56 installed" _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/apeckover%40pgmusic.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I hear your frustration. But, personally I sort of hope that they don't fix all the bugs. Since I have a *lot* of installers that pretty much rely on workarounds for bugs. If the bugs are fixed, I'd worry that I'd need to re-do all my installers to be able to compile them with the new version. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Hodgson" <jonhodgson.devlists(a)googlemail.com> To: "Iceberg-Dev" <dev.iceberg(a)gmail.com> Cc: "installer-dev" <installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 2:54 PM Subject: Re: description read only? On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Iceberg-Dev <dev.iceberg(a)gmail.com> wrote: I see. It's good to be a perfectionist but if you find a solution to change the description, I'm wondering if this may not introduce confusions for the end-user. Because the description might not be in phase with what is displayed in the list above it. This email sent to apeckover(a)pgmusic.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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