November 2011 - Installer-dev

Re: installer scripts launch the wrong browser!?
by Bill Coderre 16 Nov '11

16 Nov '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Absolutely correct. I'm in the midst of a thing, so I neglected to cover those cases. On Nov 15, 2011, at 4:06 PM, Greg Neagle wrote: > If there _is_ a "sitting at the screen" user. Make sure your script fails gracefully if no-one is logged in. > > Better yet, if COMMAND_LINE_INSTALL is set, skip this entirely. > > -Greg > > On Nov 15, 2011, at 3:57 PM, Bill Coderre wrote: > >> Preflight and Postflight scripts run as root. >> >> Investigate this: >> su $USER -c "open http://foo.com" >> >> ($USER is the sitting-at-the-screen user.) >> >> On Nov 15, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Andy O'Meara wrote: >>> After enough years I thought this issue would fix itself, but it's time to see if someone knows what's going on. In our package postflight installer script, we use the open command to launch our web page which contains some getting started info. However, calling 'open http://foo.com' from the installer script opens Safari rather than the user's preferred browser. Yet the same line in my user terminal causes the correct browser to open, so clearly the installer env is missing something to invoke the correct browser. Anyone know the best way to address this? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/greg.neagle%40disneyan… >> >> This email sent to greg.neagle(a)disneyanimation.com > _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: installer scripts launch the wrong browser!?
by Greg Neagle 16 Nov '11

16 Nov '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com If there _is_ a "sitting at the screen" user. Make sure your script fails gracefully if no-one is logged in. Better yet, if COMMAND_LINE_INSTALL is set, skip this entirely. -Greg On Nov 15, 2011, at 3:57 PM, Bill Coderre wrote: > Preflight and Postflight scripts run as root. > > Investigate this: > su $USER -c "open http://foo.com" > > ($USER is the sitting-at-the-screen user.) > > On Nov 15, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Andy O'Meara wrote: >> After enough years I thought this issue would fix itself, but it's time to see if someone knows what's going on. In our package postflight installer script, we use the open command to launch our web page which contains some getting started info. However, calling 'open http://foo.com' from the installer script opens Safari rather than the user's preferred browser. Yet the same line in my user terminal causes the correct browser to open, so clearly the installer env is missing something to invoke the correct browser. Anyone know the best way to address this? > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/greg.neagle%40disneyan… > > This email sent to greg.neagle(a)disneyanimation.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: PackageMaker snafu
by Andy O'Meara 15 Nov '11

15 Nov '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Like you, we have a non-trivial install that needs to install to global dirs as well as user sub dirs. The approach that we've been using for a few years that's worked very well from 10.4 and up is the following: 1) Have your preflight do something like: rm /tmp/_user_home ln -s "${HOME}" /tmp/_user_home 2) Have your installer install everything with absolute paths, and for stuff that's going into the user home sub dir, just use a path like /tmp/_user_home/Library/foo 3) And have your postflight cleanup: rm /tmp/_user_home Andy On Nov 14, 2011, at 9:04 PM, Rich Morin wrote: > I'm using Apple's PackageMaker (3.0.3, on Leopard) to > create an installer. Basically, it needs to put some > files into $HOME/Library/SketchUp and then copy a file > up into SketchUp's plugins directory. No problem, eh? > > The last time I did this, I spent a couple of weeks in > research and hack mode: look for documentation, try to > get things to work as described, rinse, repeat. > > Eventually, I had an installer that worked as desired. > Because of the hassle and pain, I ignored some minor > issues, such as the location of installed file trees. > > Specifically, although I set the Destination to "/" in > PackageMaker, the files were installed relative to the > user's home directory. This seemed odd, but I was happy > enough to get it working that I shrugged and went on. > > Fast forward to the present. I built another installer > and tried it out on a Lion system. Hmmmm; Lion installs > files relative to "/". So, I fudged the file tree to go > into /tmp/SketchUp and did a copy to $HOME/Library from > there. But wait; what am I supposed to do about Leopard? > > > One option is to create a (/-relative) installer for Lion > and another ($HOME-relative) one for Leopard. Then check > to see how Snow Leopard behaves and document accordingly. > > This seems a bit awkward and error-prone. If the user > isn't careful in downloading, things will break. Yes, I > can check for this and display a nastygram, but... > > > Another option is to build things for Lion and fudge the > post-install script for Leopard. If the installer put > the file tree in $HOME/tmp/..., I simply copy from there. > Of course, if the user already had a $HOME/tmp directory, > things might get a bit wonky... > > > I tried installing Xcode 4 on my Lion system, in the hope > that it would have a new, improved version of PackageMaker. > No luck there. Some Googling indicated that, in 2008, the > PackageMaker distribution had been moved into the iOS SDK. > > Not sure whether I want to spend the money and hassle to > find out whether this is (still) the case. Anyone know? > > More to the point, what's the best way to proceed at this > point? This is beginning to look like a tarpit... > > -r > -- > http://www.cfcl.com/rdm Rich Morin > http://www.cfcl.com/rdm/resume rdm(a)cfcl.com > http://www.cfcl.com/rdm/weblog +1 650-873-7841 > > Software system design, development, and documentation > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/andrew.omeara%40sounds… > > This email sent to andrew.omeara(a)soundspectrum.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: installer scripts launch the wrong browser!?
by Bill Coderre 15 Nov '11

15 Nov '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Preflight and Postflight scripts run as root. Investigate this: su $USER -c "open http://foo.com" ($USER is the sitting-at-the-screen user.) On Nov 15, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Andy O'Meara wrote: > After enough years I thought this issue would fix itself, but it's time to see if someone knows what's going on. In our package postflight installer script, we use the open command to launch our web page which contains some getting started info. However, calling 'open http://foo.com' from the installer script opens Safari rather than the user's preferred browser. Yet the same line in my user terminal causes the correct browser to open, so clearly the installer env is missing something to invoke the correct browser. Anyone know the best way to address this? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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installer scripts launch the wrong browser!?
by Andy O'Meara 15 Nov '11

15 Nov '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com After enough years I thought this issue would fix itself, but it's time to see if someone knows what's going on. In our package postflight installer script, we use the open command to launch our web page which contains some getting started info. However, calling 'open http://foo.com' from the installer script opens Safari rather than the user's preferred browser. Yet the same line in my user terminal causes the correct browser to open, so clearly the installer env is missing something to invoke the correct browser. Anyone know the best way to address this? Thanks in advance! _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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PackageMaker snafu
by Rich Morin 15 Nov '11

15 Nov '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com > Another option is to build things for Lion and fudge the > post-install script for Leopard. If the installer put > the file tree in $HOME/tmp/..., I simply copy from there. > Of course, if the user already had a $HOME/tmp directory, > things might get a bit wonky... On reflection, the solution above seemed to be workable, as long as I change the installer's target directory to a name that is unlikely to conflict with anything in either $HOME or /. So I did that... -r -- http://www.cfcl.com/rdm Rich Morin http://www.cfcl.com/rdm/resume rdm(a)cfcl.com http://www.cfcl.com/rdm/weblog +1 650-873-7841 Software system design, development, and documentation _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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PackageMaker snafu
by Rich Morin 15 Nov '11

15 Nov '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com I'm using Apple's PackageMaker (3.0.3, on Leopard) to create an installer. Basically, it needs to put some files into $HOME/Library/SketchUp and then copy a file up into SketchUp's plugins directory. No problem, eh? The last time I did this, I spent a couple of weeks in research and hack mode: look for documentation, try to get things to work as described, rinse, repeat. Eventually, I had an installer that worked as desired. Because of the hassle and pain, I ignored some minor issues, such as the location of installed file trees. Specifically, although I set the Destination to "/" in PackageMaker, the files were installed relative to the user's home directory. This seemed odd, but I was happy enough to get it working that I shrugged and went on. Fast forward to the present. I built another installer and tried it out on a Lion system. Hmmmm; Lion installs files relative to "/". So, I fudged the file tree to go into /tmp/SketchUp and did a copy to $HOME/Library from there. But wait; what am I supposed to do about Leopard? One option is to create a (/-relative) installer for Lion and another ($HOME-relative) one for Leopard. Then check to see how Snow Leopard behaves and document accordingly. This seems a bit awkward and error-prone. If the user isn't careful in downloading, things will break. Yes, I can check for this and display a nastygram, but... Another option is to build things for Lion and fudge the post-install script for Leopard. If the installer put the file tree in $HOME/tmp/..., I simply copy from there. Of course, if the user already had a $HOME/tmp directory, things might get a bit wonky... I tried installing Xcode 4 on my Lion system, in the hope that it would have a new, improved version of PackageMaker. No luck there. Some Googling indicated that, in 2008, the PackageMaker distribution had been moved into the iOS SDK. Not sure whether I want to spend the money and hassle to find out whether this is (still) the case. Anyone know? More to the point, what's the best way to proceed at this point? This is beginning to look like a tarpit... -r -- http://www.cfcl.com/rdm Rich Morin http://www.cfcl.com/rdm/resume rdm(a)cfcl.com http://www.cfcl.com/rdm/weblog +1 650-873-7841 Software system design, development, and documentation _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Warn the user to close application before retry installing (or cancel)
by helpcrypto helpcrypto 14 Nov '11

14 Nov '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sjtNnhUmhT6CKmxRMhbKl6Pk8aOlLHSLCJay/1O7LSU=; b=p3zVP6v3jspZ8XpcXo9+eOd7gdnCmKnGZrgDMyEqODAmu1OdWAdvL1RafcXwGsWQ84 Znbs0Hl1JRaFrca9pLIl6z9Mo1+LHhtle0YZ0b4+u7QUcSKtCf0bIg1cEGej8hrVTf8r Ct9+6r6GfynrUxj/B5Rokc1YiOeXUDN4h6MTY= Hi all. Some time ago we made an installer using Stéphane Sudre (Wonderfull) Packages: http://s.sudre.free.fr/Software/Packages/about.html We have noticed some of our installations could cause some errors due Firefox/Thunderbird running while installing. Thats the reason i would like to show a warning to the user saying something like: "The installer has detected Firefox/Thunderbird are running in your computer. Close them and press Retry, or press Cancel to cancel the installation." (With the proper Retry-Cancel buttons). Considering i have no idea of Cocoa/whatever other UI in OSX, how can i achieve this? I know i can run an script on InstallationCheck or preFlight scripts, but how could i show a pretty dialog asking the user? Is this feature built-in in Packages/OSX .(m)pkg? Thaks a lot and have a nice day! _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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pkgutil --unlink doesn't remove files?
by william lee 08 Nov '11

08 Nov '11

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