December 2011 - Installer-dev

Re: Two Versions of the Same OS X App in One Unified Installer
by Chris Hanson 26 Dec '11

26 Dec '11

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Re: Two Versions of the Same OS X App in One Unified Installer
by Eli Bach2 23 Dec '11

23 Dec '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=Z6SmCIEddHP562Gp2oNBGoNhPvle0+jHLlQIeYhJ0bQ=; b=bSFaqSbfU4CkpfFy4CwghDuViLCjW6TddEQ+hjlD6qkiTR6wZ5nsaVXRGilVTmWnck N5Dy4SYZTSNTDXcmjwHqezTs8hG+ket3oVFhqxgO5UQw83WQwIPzixoDOyg7iTlnrLkF ujqzda/ydeLWZOlW8K2FC+PMmUX/aCn4IpPBE= On Dec 22, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Howard Moon wrote: > > On Dec 22, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Ryan McGann wrote: > >> What happens if the user upgrades their machine from 10.6 to 10.7, after your (10.6) app is installed? You'll need to handle that scenario, gracefully I might add. >> >> -- Ryan > > Hmmm, interesting point! But... how has this scenario traditionally been handled? Certainly there are apps out there that have become obsolete after an OS update, right? The apps can't detect the update as it occurs, and may simply fail when executed. Not sure how one fails gracefully in such a case. Is there an Apple "standard" for such things? > > Thanks, > Howard Some people have gone the other way, and merge the two apps into the same bundle, and then make a third 'loader' app which is when gets initially run, which then loads and runs the real app based on which OS is running. This makes the app bundle larger, but handles the upgrade/install problem you are having. Eli _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Two Versions of the Same OS X App in One Unified Installer
by Rich Nistuk 23 Dec '11

23 Dec '11

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Re: Two Versions of the Same OS X App in One Unified Installer
by Rich Nistuk 23 Dec '11

23 Dec '11

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Re: Two Versions of the Same OS X App in One Unified Installer
by Howard Moon 22 Dec '11

22 Dec '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Dec 22, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Ryan McGann wrote: > What happens if the user upgrades their machine from 10.6 to 10.7, after your (10.6) app is installed? You'll need to handle that scenario, gracefully I might add. > > -- Ryan Hmmm, interesting point! But... how has this scenario traditionally been handled? Certainly there are apps out there that have become obsolete after an OS update, right? The apps can't detect the update as it occurs, and may simply fail when executed. Not sure how one fails gracefully in such a case. Is there an Apple "standard" for such things? Thanks, Howard _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Two Versions of the Same OS X App in One Unified Installer
by Ryan McGann 22 Dec '11

22 Dec '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com What happens if the user upgrades their machine from 10.6 to 10.7, after your (10.6) app is installed? You'll need to handle that scenario, gracefully I might add. -- Ryan > Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 10:44:25 -0800 > From: Rich Nistuk <rnistuk(a)faronics.com> > Subject: Two Versions of the Same OS X App in One Unified Installer > To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com > Message-ID: > <CAKmfrMN4pO9tLM0k1NRvxwNQGtg6DVF1J-3O=6-VQWMZ8wadrg(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello, > > We have two versions of the same OS X application. One version is compiled > for OS X 10.7 and will not work on other versions of OS X. The other > version of our application is compiled for OS X 10.4 to 10.6 and will not > work on OS X 10.7. > > We currently ship two installers, however, we'd like to have one unified > installer that identifies the target OS and installs the appropriate bundle. > > Identifying the OS is easy, it's the choosing of the correct version of the > application to install that is not. > > We're using Iceberg, and I've investigated using Packages and Vise-X but > can't figure out a way to do accomplish the goal. (I think there is a hacky > way or tricking Vise-X to do it... if it works I'll update this question.) > > Here is how we would like the installer to work > > - user executes installer > - installer identifies the version of OS X > - if the target is OS X 10.4 to 10.6 install version 1 of the application > - else if the target is OS X 10.7 choose version 2 of the application > > Is there a way of doing this with Iceberg or Packages? Can you point me at > an appropriate tutorial or give me the hint that I'm missing? > > Alternatively, can you recommend an existing installer tool that does this? > > Thank You. > > > Note: I have also posted this question on stackoverflow: > http://bit.ly/vt4NpD > <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8607967/two-versions-of-the-same-os-x-ap…> >

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Re: Two Versions of the Same OS X App in One Unified Installer
by Howard Moon 22 Dec '11

22 Dec '11

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Two Versions of the Same OS X App in One Unified Installer
by Rich Nistuk 22 Dec '11

22 Dec '11

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Re: Using a redirect HTTP URL not working in "<pkg-ref>http://redirect.foo.com/?id=145</pkg-ref>" distribution.dist file
by Henri Shustak 18 Dec '11

18 Dec '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com >> >> Using a redirect HTTP URL not working in "<pkg-ref>http://redirect.foo.com/?id=145</pkg-ref>" distribution.dist file >> >> Does the installer.app support this? When I use an absolute path it works fine. >> > > You ma be interested in the following project (under development) : > http://www.lucidsystems.tk/tools/totalconfiguration/ > > In order to get that working on OS X systems as a package installer, you would need to package wget and installpkg. In particular wget is not installed on Mac OS X by default. > Also, you will probably want to set the configure_with_package_list.bash script to use wget rather than curl. Typically, wget will deal with http redirects just fine. ------------------------------------ This email is protected by LBackup, an rsync based, open source backup system designed for use with Mac OS X and GNU/Linux http://www.lbackup.org _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Using a redirect HTTP URL not working in "<pkg-ref>http://redirect.foo.com/?id=145</pkg-ref>" distribution.dist file
by Henri Shustak 18 Dec '11

18 Dec '11

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com > > Using a redirect HTTP URL not working in "<pkg-ref>http://redirect.foo.com/?id=145</pkg-ref>" distribution.dist file > > Does the installer.app support this? When I use an absolute path it works fine. > You ma be interested in the following project (under development) : http://www.lucidsystems.tk/tools/totalconfiguration/ In order to get that working on OS X systems as a package installer, you would need to package wget and installpkg. In particular wget is not installed on Mac OS X by default. ------------------------------------ This email is protected by LBackup, an rsync based, open source backup system designed for use with Mac OS X and GNU/Linux http://www.lbackup.org _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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