November 2012 - Installer-dev

Re: Question about Packages
by Stephane Sudre 13 Nov '12

13 Nov '12

On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Philip Petev <madmax2000(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi there. > I started to make OS X packages recently and I can say I'm still learning. > Right now, I'm using Packages, which is IMO pretty good program, especially > for newbies like me. > Now on the topic - I made one flat metapackage with some packages inside. I > know that every package has its preinstall and postinstall script, but I > want to add two scripts, one, which should be executed before all preinstall > scripts and one, which should be executed after all postinstall scripts and > I don't know how to do this in Packages. Can you help me? Thank you in > advance! You can add packages that have no files in their payload and that will only run a pre-installation or post-installation script. You just need to make sure to put the one that runs the script before all installation at the top of the list in the Presentation > Installation Type step and the one that runs the script after all other ones at the end of the same list. Then you can set them to be required and invisible. Side note: from what I've experienced, the order in which packages will be installed is guaranteed but I've been told this may not be so when you have a remote package involved (I haven't checked that yet). _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Question about Packages
by Philip Petev 13 Nov '12

13 Nov '12

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Re: secuely distributing a bundle package.
by Per Olofsson 13 Nov '12

13 Nov '12

13 nov 2012 kl. 07:19 skrev <watchman(a)watchmanmonitoring.com> <watchman(a)watchmanmonitoring.com>: > So, our installer was build on the premise of being able to show-package-contents on the pkg, change a few settings, and then use the installer with ARD or deploy studio. > > we've come up with a number of ideas to leave the customization elsewhere, but none are as friendly. Feel free to fork and build upon https://github.com/MagerValp/CreateUserPkg - it has all the code you need to present a configuration UI and generate a customized .pkg. Otherwise, sysadmins who want to custimize your package should be comfortable enough with pkgutil --expand, edit and pkgutil --flatten. The signature is lost, but that's rarely a problem in deployment workflows. -- Per Olofsson, IT-service, University of Gothenburg _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: secuely distributing a bundle package.
by Stephane Sudre 13 Nov '12

13 Nov '12

On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 7:19 AM, <watchman(a)watchmanmonitoring.com> wrote: > So, our installer was build on the premise of being able to show-package-contents on the pkg, change a few settings, and then use the installer with ARD or deploy studio. > > > we've come up with a number of ideas to leave the customization elsewhere, but none are as friendly. > > I'm just about convinced that staying as a bundle package, and using a .xip to distribute is the way to go… but > > Is there any way to work with a signed .dmg to avoid having our bundle package marked as non-trustworthy by gatekeeper? There's no such thing as signed disk images AFAIK. A dmg can be encrypted but not signed. xip means Mac OS X 10.7 or later is required. What you can do depends on what you mean by customization. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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secuely distributing a bundle package.
by watchman＠watchmanmonitoring.com 13 Nov '12

13 Nov '12

So, our installer was build on the premise of being able to show-package-contents on the pkg, change a few settings, and then use the installer with ARD or deploy studio. we've come up with a number of ideas to leave the customization elsewhere, but none are as friendly. I'm just about convinced that staying as a bundle package, and using a .xip to distribute is the way to go… but Is there any way to work with a signed .dmg to avoid having our bundle package marked as non-trustworthy by gatekeeper? -- Allen Hancock - C.E.O. 408-352-6145 Help articles at support.watchmanmonitoring.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Package selection in postinstall
by Stephane Sudre 12 Nov '12

12 Nov '12

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Andrew Keller <andrew(a)kellerfarm.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > Does the postinstall script have access to a list of the packages that the user selected for installation? AFAIK, it does not. It is possible to get that list through an Installer Plugin via the InstallerState class. Assuming a finalize invisible package would be added to the distribution, I don't remember reading there's an official warranty that the receipts data base is up to date once the other packages have been installed. Also, the fact that a package is listed in the receipts data base is not sufficient in itself to state the choice for this package was selected (it could come from another installation). What could be possible to do (and is tedious) is to have a post installation script for each package that writes to a specific temporary location a file to log it has been installed and then check these files from the finalize package scripts. If one doesn't want to modify the existing packages for this, it's still possible (but even more tedious) to achieve by "merging" each existing package with a package including only the relevant post installation script. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Package selection in postinstall
by Andrew Keller 12 Nov '12

12 Nov '12

Hello all, Does the postinstall script have access to a list of the packages that the user selected for installation? Thanks, Andrew Keller _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Mandate restart from postinstall script?
by Andrew Keller 10 Nov '12

10 Nov '12

On Nov 10, 2012, at 9:24 AM, Stephane Sudre wrote: > On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Andrew Keller <andrew(a)kellerfarm.com> wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> In the postinstall script for one of my component packages, I put all of the required installation-related code at the top, and the code to try and bring up the app without a restart at the end. All of the common scenarios where a restart is required are handled earlier using JavaScript, however there are still some edge cases that can cause the postinstall script to fail to bring up the app. >> >> If the postinstall script succeeds with the installation, but fails to bring up the app, then the user could "fix" it by simply restarting. Conceivably, the postinstall script could detect when there is an error. Is there a way for the postinstall script to tell Installer to mandate a restart if it detects a problem bringing up the app? > > AFAIK, it's too late for a package to have a change of mind regarding > the post-installation behavior once the installation has begun. Okay - it's probably better for the user, anyways. Thanks, Andrew Keller _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Running processes as non-root after an install
by Andrew Keller 10 Nov '12

10 Nov '12

On Nov 10, 2012, at 9:22 AM, Stephane Sudre wrote: > On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Andrew Keller <andrew(a)kellerfarm.com> wrote: >> You know, a logout would be less painful than a restart. I expected such a feature to be a different value for the 'postinstall-action' key in the PackageInfo file in a component package, but I was unable to find any documentation to support it. > > http://s.sudre.free.fr/Stuff/Ivanhoe/FLAT.html Awesome, thanks. Andrew Keller _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Mandate restart from postinstall script?
by Stephane Sudre 10 Nov '12

10 Nov '12

On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Andrew Keller <andrew(a)kellerfarm.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > In the postinstall script for one of my component packages, I put all of the required installation-related code at the top, and the code to try and bring up the app without a restart at the end. All of the common scenarios where a restart is required are handled earlier using JavaScript, however there are still some edge cases that can cause the postinstall script to fail to bring up the app. > > If the postinstall script succeeds with the installation, but fails to bring up the app, then the user could "fix" it by simply restarting. Conceivably, the postinstall script could detect when there is an error. Is there a way for the postinstall script to tell Installer to mandate a restart if it detects a problem bringing up the app? AFAIK, it's too late for a package to have a change of mind regarding the post-installation behavior once the installation has begun. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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