February 2012 - Installer-dev

Re: Command in Macintosh for mapping package name and package id
by Ben Gollmer 05 Feb '12

05 Feb '12

On Feb 3, 2012, at 5:24 AM, Per Olofsson wrote: >> Applescript can be used to retrieve the name of an application using its id: >> >> get name of application id "pkgID" > > Interesting, but I'm not having much luck: > > MBPro15:Sharepoint pelle$ osascript -e 'get name of application id "com.crashplan.app.pkg"' > 4:50: syntax error: Can’t get application id "com.crashplan.app.pkg". (-1728) > MBPro15:Sharepoint pelle$ osascript -e 'get name of application id "org.macports.MacPorts"' > 4:50: syntax error: Can’t get application id "org.macports.MacPorts". (-1728) > MBPro15:Sharepoint pelle$ osascript -e 'get name of application id "com.parallels.pkg.virtualization"' > 4:61: syntax error: Can’t get application id "com.parallels.pkg.virtualization". (-1728) If this works, it is only by chance. There is no requirement that a package id must match the bundle of any application(s) that it contains. The package might also install command line tools or shared libraries without a bundle id, or function solely as a wrapper to run scripts. -- Ben _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Command in Macintosh for mapping package name and package id
by Per Olofsson 03 Feb '12

03 Feb '12

3 feb 2012 kl. 10:00 skrev Andreas Xenos: > a=`pkgutil --files pkgID` > results=(`awk -F'\n' '$1=$1' <<<'$a'`) > echo ${results[0]} Cool, this kinda works if you change it to double quotes around $a: >> #!/bin/bash >> >> a=`pkgutil --files "$1"` >> results=(`awk -F'\n' '$1=$1' <<<"$a"`) >> echo ${results[0]} Results vary though, and more often than not doesn't give you anything useful: MBPro15:prog pelle$ for pkgid in `pkgutil --pkgs`; do echo -n "$pkgid: "; ./pkgid.sh $pkgid; done […] com.apple.pkg.X11User: Applications com.apple.pkg.XcodeEssentialsSystemSupportLeo: System com.apple.pkg.XcodeUserSystemSupportLeo: System com.apple.pkg.xcrunLeo: usr com.att.graphviz.cli.pkg: bin com.att.graphviz.gui.pkg: Graphviz.app com.crashplan.app.pkg: CrashPlan.app com.deploystudio.admin.pkg: DeployStudio com.google.pkg.GoogleVoiceAndVideo: Library com.google.pkg.Keystone: com.googlecode.munki.admin: private com.microsoft.lync.all.lync.pkg.14.0.0: Applications com.microsoft.lync.all.lync.pkg.14.0.1.update: Applications com.microsoft.lync.all.meetingjoinplugin.pkg.14.0.0: Library com.microsoft.lync.all.meetingjoinplugin.pkg.14.0.1.update: Library […] > Applescript can be used to retrieve the name of an application using its id: > > get name of application id "pkgID" Interesting, but I'm not having much luck: MBPro15:Sharepoint pelle$ osascript -e 'get name of application id "com.crashplan.app.pkg"' 4:50: syntax error: Can’t get application id "com.crashplan.app.pkg". (-1728) MBPro15:Sharepoint pelle$ osascript -e 'get name of application id "org.macports.MacPorts"' 4:50: syntax error: Can’t get application id "org.macports.MacPorts". (-1728) MBPro15:Sharepoint pelle$ osascript -e 'get name of application id "com.parallels.pkg.virtualization"' 4:61: syntax error: Can’t get application id "com.parallels.pkg.virtualization". (-1728) -- Per Olofsson System Administrator, IT-services, University of Gothenburg _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Command in Macintosh for mapping package name and package id
by Greg Neagle 03 Feb '12

03 Feb '12

It's not even clear what is meant by "package name" -- is this the name of the package _file_ the user double-clicked on? This may have been renamed since it was built by the developer/manufacturer. And the file itself is often deleted after installation, so I'm not sure what having that name might buy you. As far as I am concerned, the packageid _is_ the name of the package. What is the problem you are trying to solve? -Greg On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Stephane Sudre wrote: > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Nandini Vijayashankar > <vnandini(a)novell.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Please let me know is there any command provided by Macintosh to give >> package name based on package id and vice versa. >> If i execute pkgutil --pkgs command, I get list of package ids.I want to get >> the name of package for this id. >> Even if i have a flat package in my directory, I want to know the package id >> that will be listed for this package, if i use pkgutil command. >> >> Is there a single command for mapping package name and package id or vice >> versa. >> >> Thanks > > I don't think there is. The point of having an identifier is to be > able to use a different name for the package. It's the primary key. > > the -pkg-info option do not provide the name of the package. > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/greg.neagle%40disneya… > > This email sent to greg.neagle(a)disneyanimation.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Command in Macintosh for mapping package name and package id
by Stephane Sudre 02 Feb '12

02 Feb '12

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Nandini Vijayashankar <vnandini(a)novell.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Please let me know is there any command provided by Macintosh to give > package name based on package id and vice versa. > If i execute pkgutil --pkgs command, I get list of package ids.I want to get > the name of package for this id. > Even if i have a flat package in my directory, I want to know the package id > that will be listed for this package, if i use pkgutil command. > > Is there a single command for mapping package name and package id or vice > versa. > > Thanks I don't think there is. The point of having an identifier is to be able to use a different name for the package. It's the primary key. the -pkg-info option do not provide the name of the package. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Packagemaker UI Issue
by Stephane Sudre 02 Feb '12

02 Feb '12

You can not fix the issue on your side. It's an issue in Installer.app. As a matter of fact, I reported this bug yesterday. On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Prema Kumar <Prema.Kumar(a)efi.com> wrote: > Hi, > > > > Attached here is the snapshot of the UI issue that occurs when the > installation fails. It looks like it is a problem only specific to MacOS > 10.7. In MacOS 10.4, it looks fine since the failure message is shorter. We > are using packagemaker 2.1.1. How we can fix this issue? > > > > Thanks, > > Prema > > > > > ________________________________ > Confidentiality notice: This message may contain confidential information. > It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not > that person, you should not use this message. We request that you notify us > by replying to this message, and then delete all copies including any > contained in your reply. Thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/dev.iceberg%40gmail.c… > > This email sent to dev.iceberg(a)gmail.com > _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Command in Macintosh for mapping package name and package id
by Nandini Vijayashankar 02 Feb '12

02 Feb '12

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Re: Flat package installers?
by Per Olofsson 02 Feb '12

02 Feb '12

2 feb 2012 kl. 10:50 skrev Stephane Sudre: > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Prema Kumar <Prema.Kumar(a)efi.com> wrote: >> Hi Stephane, >> Thanks for your suggestions. Following are your two statements. >> - they do not include any chrome (no welcome, read me, EULA, background picture) >> - they do not let you specify installation requirements. >> >> This means that in flat package installers, I cannot show the EULA (End user License agreement), Background image for the installer and Installation checks (such as the checking the OS version for installing the package)? > > No, you can not. > > You have to wrap the package around a distribution script for that. And just to clarify, *yes* a flat package installer can show EULAs and have installation checks. What's commonly referred to as an "installer" or "package" is typically a *distribution*, which contains *payloads* in the form of *packages*. Bundle style distributions typically use .mpkg as the extension, while flat distributions use .pkg, just like packages. -- Per Olofsson, IT-service, University of Gothenburg _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Flat package installers?
by Stephane Sudre 02 Feb '12

02 Feb '12

No, you can not. You have to wrap the package around a distribution script for that. A flat package is basically exclusively for the payload. The chrome and logic is a job for the distribution script. On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Prema Kumar <Prema.Kumar(a)efi.com> wrote: > Hi Stephane, > Thanks for your suggestions. Following are your two statements. > - they do not include any chrome (no welcome, read me, EULA, background picture) > - they do not let you specify installation requirements. > > This means that in flat package installers, I cannot show the EULA (End user License agreement), Background image for the installer and Installation checks (such as the checking the OS version for installing the package)? > > Regards > Prema > > > -----Original Message----- > From: installer-dev-bounces+prema.kumar=efi.com(a)lists.apple.com [mailto:installer-dev-bounces+prema.kumar=efi.com@lists.apple.com] On Behalf Of Stephane Sudre > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 3:40 AM > To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com > Subject: Re: Flat package installers? > > This is, of course, for flat packages. Flat or bundle distributions > bring back the UI and requirements stuff. > > On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Stephane Sudre <dev.iceberg(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> They are stable since this is what the OS has been using for a long time now. >> >> Their pros and cons: >> >> Pros: >> >> - they are single file so you don't have to zip/tar them to distribute >> them. It also solves an AppleShare volume issue IIRC. >> >> - they have some niceties such as the ability attach a pre/post >> install script to a bundle (app, plugin) inside the payload. >> >> - the receipt is always in the data base from 10.5 to later. >> >> - don't tell Apple but you can also get HFS+ compression with them >> upon installation. >> >> Cons: >> >> - they do not include any chrome (no welcome, read me, EULA, background picture) >> >> - they do not let you specify installation requirements. >> >> - the format is not fully documented. >> >> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Prema Kumar <Prema.Kumar(a)efi.com> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I would like to know how stable is the Flat package installers? What are >>> advantages it have from normal package maker installers (bundles)? >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Prema >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> Confidentiality notice: This message may contain confidential information. >>> It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not >>> that person, you should not use this message. We request that you notify us >>> by replying to this message, and then delete all copies including any >>> contained in your reply. Thank you. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/dev.iceberg%40gmail.c… >>> >>> This email sent to dev.iceberg(a)gmail.com >>> > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/prema.kumar%40efi.com > > This email sent to prema.kumar(a)efi.com > > Confidentiality notice: This message may contain confidential information. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not that person, you should not use this message. We request that you notify us by replying to this message, and then delete all copies including any contained in your reply. Thank you. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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RE: Flat package installers?
by Prema Kumar 02 Feb '12

02 Feb '12

Hi Stephane, Thanks for your suggestions. Following are your two statements. - they do not include any chrome (no welcome, read me, EULA, background picture) - they do not let you specify installation requirements. This means that in flat package installers, I cannot show the EULA (End user License agreement), Background image for the installer and Installation checks (such as the checking the OS version for installing the package)? Regards Prema -----Original Message----- From: installer-dev-bounces+prema.kumar=efi.com(a)lists.apple.com [mailto:installer-dev-bounces+prema.kumar=efi.com@lists.apple.com] On Behalf Of Stephane Sudre Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 3:40 AM To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Subject: Re: Flat package installers? This is, of course, for flat packages. Flat or bundle distributions bring back the UI and requirements stuff. On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Stephane Sudre <dev.iceberg(a)gmail.com> wrote: > They are stable since this is what the OS has been using for a long time now. > > Their pros and cons: > > Pros: > > - they are single file so you don't have to zip/tar them to distribute > them. It also solves an AppleShare volume issue IIRC. > > - they have some niceties such as the ability attach a pre/post > install script to a bundle (app, plugin) inside the payload. > > - the receipt is always in the data base from 10.5 to later. > > - don't tell Apple but you can also get HFS+ compression with them > upon installation. > > Cons: > > - they do not include any chrome (no welcome, read me, EULA, background picture) > > - they do not let you specify installation requirements. > > - the format is not fully documented. > > On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Prema Kumar <Prema.Kumar(a)efi.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I would like to know how stable is the Flat package installers? What are >> advantages it have from normal package maker installers (bundles)? >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Prema >> >> >> ________________________________ >> Confidentiality notice: This message may contain confidential information. >> It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not >> that person, you should not use this message. We request that you notify us >> by replying to this message, and then delete all copies including any >> contained in your reply. Thank you. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/dev.iceberg%40gmail.c… >> >> This email sent to dev.iceberg(a)gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/prema.kumar%40efi.com This email sent to prema.kumar(a)efi.com Confidentiality notice: This message may contain confidential information. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not that person, you should not use this message. We request that you notify us by replying to this message, and then delete all copies including any contained in your reply. Thank you. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Flat package installers?
by Stephane Sudre 01 Feb '12

01 Feb '12

This is, of course, for flat packages. Flat or bundle distributions bring back the UI and requirements stuff. On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Stephane Sudre <dev.iceberg(a)gmail.com> wrote: > They are stable since this is what the OS has been using for a long time now. > > Their pros and cons: > > Pros: > > - they are single file so you don't have to zip/tar them to distribute > them. It also solves an AppleShare volume issue IIRC. > > - they have some niceties such as the ability attach a pre/post > install script to a bundle (app, plugin) inside the payload. > > - the receipt is always in the data base from 10.5 to later. > > - don't tell Apple but you can also get HFS+ compression with them > upon installation. > > Cons: > > - they do not include any chrome (no welcome, read me, EULA, background picture) > > - they do not let you specify installation requirements. > > - the format is not fully documented. > > On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Prema Kumar <Prema.Kumar(a)efi.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I would like to know how stable is the Flat package installers? What are >> advantages it have from normal package maker installers (bundles)? >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Prema >> >> >> ________________________________ >> Confidentiality notice: This message may contain confidential information. >> It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not >> that person, you should not use this message. We request that you notify us >> by replying to this message, and then delete all copies including any >> contained in your reply. Thank you. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/dev.iceberg%40gmail.c… >> >> This email sent to dev.iceberg(a)gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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