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Re: Scripts not executed
by Stephane Sudre 24 Mar '13

24 Mar '13

Which script? pre/postflight, post/pre upgrade/install? According to the log, the preupgrade script is run: Mar 24 11:03:42 trixis-mac-pro installd[4102]: PackageKit: Executing script > "./preupgrade" in /Users/beatrixwillius/Documents/ Datei/Development/Mail > Archiver 3base/code current/Max Installer/build/Mail Archiver On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Beatrix Willius <bwillius(a)gmx.de> wrote: > Hi, > > the installer for my application still gets a hickup now and then. The > newest problem is that the scripts aren't executed. I've made sure that > > - There is a shebang line. > - The scripts are set to executable. > - When I drag the scripts to the Terminal they do what they should. > > And still there is nothing done. > > The first script isn't very complicated: > > #!/bin/sh > thepid=`ps ux | awk '/Mail Archiver Scheduler/ && !/awk/ {print $2}'` > if [ $thepid ]; then kill $thepid; else echo 'no schedule set'; fi > > After installation the Scheduler app is still running. And this screws up my > whole application. > > Here is the output of running the installer: > > Mar 24 11:03:28 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: @(#)PROGRAM:Install > PROJECT:Install-729 > Mar 24 11:03:28 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: @(#)PROGRAM:Installer > PROJECT:Installer-614 > Mar 24 11:03:28 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Hardware: MacPro4,1 @ 2.66 > GHz (x 8), 6144 MB RAM > Mar 24 11:03:28 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Running OS Build: Mac OS X > 10.8 (12A269) > Mar 24 11:03:28 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Env: > PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin > Mar 24 11:03:28 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Env: > TMPDIR=/var/folders/yb/l1kg95s932sgnw_8bl3dd67h0000gr/T/ > Mar 24 11:03:28 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Env: SHELL=/bin/bash > Mar 24 11:03:28 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Env: > HOME=/Users/beatrixwillius > Mar 24 11:03:28 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Env: USER=beatrixwillius > Mar 24 11:03:28 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Env: LOGNAME=beatrixwillius > Mar 24 11:03:28 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Env: > SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/launch-vn2frL/Listeners > Mar 24 11:03:28 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Env: > Apple_Ubiquity_Message=/tmp/launch-Z9lZgd/Apple_Ubiquity_Message > Mar 24 11:03:28 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Env: > Apple_PubSub_Socket_Render=/tmp/launch-vFIwTO/Render > Mar 24 11:03:28 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Env: > DISPLAY=/tmp/launch-VwzjMM/org.macosforge.xquartz:0 > Mar 24 11:03:28 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Env: COMMAND_MODE=unix2003 > Mar 24 11:03:28 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Env: > __CF_USER_TEXT_ENCODING=0x1F8:0:0 > Mar 24 11:03:29 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Mail Archiver X > Installation Log > Mar 24 11:03:29 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Opened from: > /Users/beatrixwillius/Documents/ Datei/Development/Mail Archiver 3base/code > current/Max Installer/build/Mail Archiver X.pkg > Mar 24 11:03:30 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Referenced component > packages (1) trustLevel=100 > Mar 24 11:03:34 trixis-mac-pro installd[4076]: installd: Exiting. > Mar 24 11:03:35 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: InstallerStatusNotifications > plugin loaded > Mar 24 11:03:39 trixis-mac-pro runner[4099]: Administrator authorization > granted. > Mar 24 11:03:39 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: > ================================================================================ > Mar 24 11:03:39 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: User picked Standard Install > Mar 24 11:03:39 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Choices selected for > installation: > Mar 24 11:03:39 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Upgrade: "Mail Archiver X" > Mar 24 11:03:39 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Mail Archiver X.pkg : > com.mothsoftware.mailarchiverx30.pkg : 3.0.0.3.0 > Mar 24 11:03:39 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: > ================================================================================ > Mar 24 11:03:39 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: It took 0.00 seconds to > summarize the package selections. > Mar 24 11:03:39 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: -[IFPKGDerivedDocument > sortedPackageLocations]: result = ( > "file://localhost" > ) > Mar 24 11:03:39 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: > -[IFDInstallController(Private) _buildInstallPlan]: location = > file://localhost > Mar 24 11:03:39 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: > -[IFDInstallController(Private) _buildInstallPlan]: > file://localhost/Users/beatrixwillius/Documents/%20Datei/Development/Mail%20Archiver%203base/code%20current/Max%20Installer/build/Mail%20Archiver%20X.pkg > Mar 24 11:03:39 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Set authorization level to > root for session > Mar 24 11:03:39 trixis-mac-pro runner[4099]: Administrator authorization > granted. > Mar 24 11:03:39 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Will use PK session > Mar 24 11:03:39 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Starting installation: > Mar 24 11:03:39 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Configuring volume "Macci" > Mar 24 11:03:39 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Preparing disk for local > booted install. > Mar 24 11:03:39 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Free space on "Macci": > 165,66 GB (165663449088 bytes). > Mar 24 11:03:39 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Create temporary directory > "/var/folders/yb/l1kg95s932sgnw_8bl3dd67h0000gr/T//Install.4094RiPmqn" > Mar 24 11:03:39 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: IFPKInstallElement (1 > packages) > Mar 24 11:03:39 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Using authorization level of > root for IFPKInstallElement > Mar 24 11:03:39 trixis-mac-pro installd[4102]: installd: Starting > Mar 24 11:03:39 trixis-mac-pro installd[4102]: installd: uid=0, euid=0 > Mar 24 11:03:39 trixis-mac-pro installd[4102]: PackageKit: ----- Begin > install ----- > Mar 24 11:03:39 trixis-mac-pro installd[4102]: PackageKit: > request=PKInstallRequest <1 packages, destination=/> > Mar 24 11:03:39 trixis-mac-pro installd[4102]: PackageKit: packages=( > "PKJaguarPackage > <file://localhost/Users/beatrixwillius/Documents/%20Datei/Development/Mail%20Archiver%203base/code%20current/Max%20Installer/build/Mail%20Archiver%20X.pkg>" > ) > Mar 24 11:03:39 trixis-mac-pro installd[4102]: PackageKit: Will do > receipt-based obsoleting for package identifier > com.mothsoftware.mailarchiverx30.pkg (prefix path=Applications) > Mar 24 11:03:39 trixis-mac-pro installd[4102]: PackageKit: Extracting > file://localhost/Users/beatrixwillius/Documents/%20Datei/Development/Mail%20Archiver%203base/code%20current/Max%20Installer/build/Mail%20Archiver%20X.pkg > (destination=/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0000000000000/Cleanup At > Startup/PKInstallSandboxManager/1.sandbox/Root/Applications, uid=0) > Mar 24 11:03:42 trixis-mac-pro installd[4102]: PackageKit: prevent user idle > system sleep > Mar 24 11:03:42 trixis-mac-pro installd[4102]: PackageKit: suspending > backupd > Mar 24 11:03:42 trixis-mac-pro install_monitor[4107]: Temporarily excluding: > /Applications, /Library, /System, /bin, /private, /sbin, /usr > Mar 24 11:03:42 trixis-mac-pro installd[4102]: PackageKit: Executing script > "./preupgrade" in /Users/beatrixwillius/Documents/ Datei/Development/Mail > Archiver 3base/code current/Max Installer/build/Mail Archiver > X.pkg/Contents/Resources > Mar 24 11:03:42 trixis-mac-pro installd[4102]: PackageKit: Shoving > /var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0000000000000/Cleanup At > Startup/PKInstallSandboxManager/1.sandbox/Root (1 items) to / > Mar 24 11:03:43 trixis-mac-pro installd[4102]: PackageKit: Writing receipt > for com.mothsoftware.mailarchiverx30.pkg to /private/var/db/receipts > Mar 24 11:03:43 trixis-mac-pro installd[4102]: PackageKit: Touched bundle > Applications/Mail Archiver X 3/Mail Archiver X.app > Mar 24 11:03:43 trixis-mac-pro installd[4102]: PackageKit: Touched bundle > Applications/Mail Archiver X 3/Mail Archiver X.app/Contents/Mail Archiver > Scheduler.app > Mar 24 11:03:43 trixis-mac-pro installd[4102]: Installed "Mail Archiver X" > () > Mar 24 11:03:43 trixis-mac-pro install_monitor[4107]: Re-included: > /Applications, /Library, /System, /bin, /private, /sbin, /usr > Mar 24 11:03:44 trixis-mac-pro installd[4102]: PackageKit: releasing backupd > Mar 24 11:03:44 trixis-mac-pro installd[4102]: PackageKit: allow user idle > system sleep > Mar 24 11:03:44 trixis-mac-pro installd[4102]: PackageKit: ----- End install > ----- > Mar 24 11:03:44 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: PackageKit: Registered > bundle > file://localhost/Applications/Mail%20Archiver%20X%203/Mail%20Archiver%20X.app/ > for uid 504 > Mar 24 11:03:44 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: PackageKit: Registered > bundle > file://localhost/Applications/Mail%20Archiver%20X%203/Mail%20Archiver%20X.app/Contents/Mail%20Archiver%20Scheduler.app/ > for uid 504 > Mar 24 11:03:45 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Removing temporary directory > "/var/folders/yb/l1kg95s932sgnw_8bl3dd67h0000gr/T//Install.4094RiPmqn" > Mar 24 11:03:45 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Finalize disk "Macci" > Mar 24 11:03:45 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Notifying system of updated > components > Mar 24 11:03:45 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: > Mar 24 11:03:45 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: **** Summary Information > **** > Mar 24 11:03:45 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Operation Elapsed > time > Mar 24 11:03:45 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: > ----------------------------- > Mar 24 11:03:45 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: zero 0.01 > seconds > Mar 24 11:03:45 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: disk 0.01 > seconds > Mar 24 11:03:45 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: install 6.08 > seconds > Mar 24 11:03:45 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: -total- 6.10 > seconds > Mar 24 11:03:45 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: > Mar 24 11:03:45 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: IFDInstallController > C700C760 state = 5 > Mar 24 11:03:45 trixis-mac-pro Installer[4094]: Displaying 'Install > Succeeded' UI. > > > Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards > > Trixi Willius > > http://www.mothsoftware.com > 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Re: Scripts not executed
by Beatrix Willius 24 Mar '13

24 Mar '13

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Scripts not executed
by Beatrix Willius 24 Mar '13

24 Mar '13

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WhiteBox Packages: Rules for folder sources
by John Turnipseed 18 Mar '13

18 Mar '13

I'm using Packages for creating installers and am running into an issue. For a variety of reasons, I'd like the installers to allow downgrading of the included applications and plugins. The problem I'm having centers around the fact that I have a hierarchy of directories of plugins for my application that are getting installed as part of the installer. Previously I've taken advantage of the "Folder" source to simply point at the top "Plug-ins" directory in my built products folder. This was convenient as whenever I added a new plug-in, the Packages would pick it up automatically and I wouldn't have to do anything to the pkgproj file. However, I recently discovered installer packages generated this way do not support downgrading of the plugins. It appears that the only way to get the installer to allow downgrading is to include all the plugins individually in Packages and check each one's "Allow downgrade" rule. Which makes adding a new plugin more work and something that one easily forgets do and validate. Does anyone know if there is a way to change the default for "Allow downgrade" to true? Or maybe set it just for a Folder, or even for the entire .pkgproj? -=- John John Turnipseed john(a)goannasoft.com johnt(a)mac.com Macintosh Contract Programming _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Installation requirements
by Andrew Keller 13 Mar '13

13 Mar '13

On Mar 12, 2013, at 4:12 AM, Stephane Sudre wrote: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 5:10 AM, Andrew Keller <andrew(a)kellerfarm.com> wrote: >> On Mar 11, 2013, at 7:41 PM, Greg Neagle wrote: >>> On Mar 11, 2013, at 4:22 PM, Andrew Keller <andrew(a)kellerfarm.com> wrote: >>>> On Mar 9, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Greg Neagle wrote: >>>>> On Mar 8, 2013, at 5:17 PM, Bill Coderre <bc(a)apple.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Mar 8, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Andrew Keller <andrew(a)kellerfarm.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> My software is compatible with 10.6.0 and later, but my installer is only compatible with 10.6.6 and later. >>>>> >>>>> Why on earth is this? >>>> >>>> The app runs just fine on 10.6.0, but the installer does this on pre-10.6.6: >>>> >>>> Mar 8 12:09:20 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: Running OS Build: Mac OS X 10.6.3 (10D575) >>>> [fast forward] >>>> Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: Package file://localhost/Volumes/My%20App/Install%20My%20App.pkg#My%20App.pkg not supported by PK >>>> Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: Will use IF session >>>> Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: PFPackage::packageWithURL - can't instantiate package: /Volumes/My App/Install My App.pkg >>>> Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: Error opening package "Install My App.pkg#My App.pkg". >>>> Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: Install failed: The Installer could not install the software because there was no software found to install. >>>> Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: IFDInstallController 14B670 state = 7 >>>> Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: Displaying 'Install Failed' UI. >>>> Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: 'Install Failed' UI displayed message:'The Installer could not install the software.\n\nThe Installer could not install the software because there was no software found to install.'. >>> >>> This looks like a package authoring error. Perhaps 10.6.6's installer is a little more permissive, but I'd work on fixing the installer. >> >> I completely agree - Installer is definitely not happy with the package, which can likely be worked around by tweaking the authoring process. However, Googling the errors, or searching for them in the man pages, or searching for any of the above text in the SDKs has not turned up anything I can work with. Do you have any suggestions? > > Are you using options that would only be available in 10.6.6 or later? > (like requiring some apps not to be running) Yes - the Distribution file was using the 'require-scripts' attribute in the options element. I removed it, but the behavior remains unchanged. I'll try again tomorrow. The error makes me think that the error is in my component package, and not necessarily in the distribution package. Is that possible, or can this type of error be caused by a problem in the distribution package? I rebuilt some older commits, and it looks like my installer started exhibiting this problem on <10.6.6 after I rewrote my packaging script. It used to only use productbuild, but now it uses pkgbuild to create component packages, and then productbuild to bundle everything together. Thanks, Andrew Keller _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Installation requirements
by Stephane Sudre 12 Mar '13

12 Mar '13

On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 5:10 AM, Andrew Keller <andrew(a)kellerfarm.com> wrote: > On Mar 11, 2013, at 7:41 PM, Greg Neagle wrote: >> On Mar 11, 2013, at 4:22 PM, Andrew Keller <andrew(a)kellerfarm.com> wrote: >>> On Mar 9, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Greg Neagle wrote: >>>> On Mar 8, 2013, at 5:17 PM, Bill Coderre <bc(a)apple.com> wrote: >>>>> On Mar 8, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Andrew Keller <andrew(a)kellerfarm.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> My software is compatible with 10.6.0 and later, but my installer is only compatible with 10.6.6 and later. >>>> >>>> Why on earth is this? >>> >>> The app runs just fine on 10.6.0, but the installer does this on pre-10.6.6: >>> >>> Mar 8 12:09:20 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: Running OS Build: Mac OS X 10.6.3 (10D575) >>> [fast forward] >>> Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: Package file://localhost/Volumes/My%20App/Install%20My%20App.pkg#My%20App.pkg not supported by PK >>> Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: Will use IF session >>> Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: PFPackage::packageWithURL - can't instantiate package: /Volumes/My App/Install My App.pkg >>> Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: Error opening package "Install My App.pkg#My App.pkg". >>> Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: Install failed: The Installer could not install the software because there was no software found to install. >>> Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: IFDInstallController 14B670 state = 7 >>> Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: Displaying 'Install Failed' UI. >>> Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: 'Install Failed' UI displayed message:'The Installer could not install the software.\n\nThe Installer could not install the software because there was no software found to install.'. >> >> This looks like a package authoring error. Perhaps 10.6.6's installer is a little more permissive, but I'd work on fixing the installer. > > I completely agree - Installer is definitely not happy with the package, which can likely be worked around by tweaking the authoring process. However, Googling the errors, or searching for them in the man pages, or searching for any of the above text in the SDKs has not turned up anything I can work with. Do you have any suggestions? Are you using options that would only be available in 10.6.6 or later? (like requiring some apps not to be running) _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Installation requirements
by Andrew Keller 12 Mar '13

12 Mar '13

On Mar 11, 2013, at 7:41 PM, Greg Neagle wrote: > On Mar 11, 2013, at 4:22 PM, Andrew Keller <andrew(a)kellerfarm.com> wrote: >> On Mar 9, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Greg Neagle wrote: >>> On Mar 8, 2013, at 5:17 PM, Bill Coderre <bc(a)apple.com> wrote: >>>> On Mar 8, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Andrew Keller <andrew(a)kellerfarm.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> My software is compatible with 10.6.0 and later, but my installer is only compatible with 10.6.6 and later. >>> >>> Why on earth is this? >> >> The app runs just fine on 10.6.0, but the installer does this on pre-10.6.6: >> >> Mar 8 12:09:20 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: Running OS Build: Mac OS X 10.6.3 (10D575) >> [fast forward] >> Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: Package file://localhost/Volumes/My%20App/Install%20My%20App.pkg#My%20App.pkg not supported by PK >> Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: Will use IF session >> Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: PFPackage::packageWithURL - can't instantiate package: /Volumes/My App/Install My App.pkg >> Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: Error opening package "Install My App.pkg#My App.pkg". >> Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: Install failed: The Installer could not install the software because there was no software found to install. >> Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: IFDInstallController 14B670 state = 7 >> Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: Displaying 'Install Failed' UI. >> Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: 'Install Failed' UI displayed message:'The Installer could not install the software.\n\nThe Installer could not install the software because there was no software found to install.'. > > This looks like a package authoring error. Perhaps 10.6.6's installer is a little more permissive, but I'd work on fixing the installer. I completely agree - Installer is definitely not happy with the package, which can likely be worked around by tweaking the authoring process. However, Googling the errors, or searching for them in the man pages, or searching for any of the above text in the SDKs has not turned up anything I can work with. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks, Andrew Keller _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Installation requirements
by Greg Neagle 11 Mar '13

11 Mar '13

On Mar 11, 2013, at 4:22 PM, Andrew Keller <andrew(a)kellerfarm.com> wrote: > On Mar 9, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Greg Neagle wrote: >> On Mar 8, 2013, at 5:17 PM, Bill Coderre <bc(a)apple.com> wrote: >> >>> On Mar 8, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Andrew Keller <andrew(a)kellerfarm.com> wrote: >>>> My software is compatible with 10.6.0 and later, but my installer is only compatible with 10.6.6 and later. >> >> Why on earth is this? > > The app runs just fine on 10.6.0, but the installer does this on pre-10.6.6: > > Mar 8 12:09:20 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: Running OS Build: Mac OS X 10.6.3 (10D575) > [fast forward] > Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: Package file://localhost/Volumes/My%20App/Install%20My%20App.pkg#My%20App.pkg not supported by PK > Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: Will use IF session > Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: PFPackage::packageWithURL - can't instantiate package: /Volumes/My App/Install My App.pkg > Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: Error opening package "Install My App.pkg#My App.pkg". > Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: Install failed: The Installer could not install the software because there was no software found to install. > Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: IFDInstallController 14B670 state = 7 > Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: Displaying 'Install Failed' UI. > Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: 'Install Failed' UI displayed message:'The Installer could not install the software.\n\nThe Installer could not install the software because there was no software found to install.'. This looks like a package authoring error. Perhaps 10.6.6's installer is a little more permissive, but I'd work on fixing the installer. -Greg > > That happens after you click the final Install button, after you click "Continue" on the warning that you'll have to restart your computer, and before you type in an admin password. > > >>>> Is it possible to allow installing a package on any volume with 10.6.0 or later, but only if the currently booted operating system is 10.6.6 or later? >>> >>> 1) Is this really a necessary requirement? Most installers only allow installation on the booted volume >> >> There's no reason for this. >> The fact that some packages are poorly written and work only on the boot volume should not obscure the fact that installation packages can and should when possible be authored to allow installation on any eligible volume. > > Both of those raise good points in my situation. Although I want to support the largest range of systems possible, using the approach I originally wanted, the only way to install onto <10.6.6 would be to install onto it from another computer running >=10.6.6. Although there is nothing wrong with that in practice, and although Apple's Installer seems to handle that scenario just fine, it occurs to me that that arrangement is going to make testing more difficult. So, from a testing point of view, it might be a good idea to only allow >=10.6.6. > > BUT... that still allows users to use < 10.6.6 to install onto a disk with >= 10.6.6. Based on the problem I encountered earlier, it looks like I should disallow installing onto *any* disk if the currently booted system is <10.6.6, which brings me back to my original goal, even though the exact versions may be slightly different. > > So, at the very least, users: > * should be able to install onto any volume with >= 10.6.0 installed (or 10.6.6 if I want to reduce testing) > * should not be able to install onto any volume if the host OS is running <10.6.6. > >>> , and it's usually a good idea to require the latest subrevision, 10.6.8. >>> >>> >>> >>> 2) "InstallationCheck" can check the booted system's version (you probably want system.version.ProductVersion) >>> "VolumeCheck" can check the system version on the target disk (my.target.systemVersion.ProductVersion) >>> See also system.compareVersions() > > Thanks, > Andrew Keller > > > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/greg.neagle%40disneya… > > This email sent to greg.neagle(a)disneyanimation.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Installation requirements
by Andrew Keller 11 Mar '13

11 Mar '13

On Mar 9, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Greg Neagle wrote: > On Mar 8, 2013, at 5:17 PM, Bill Coderre <bc(a)apple.com> wrote: > >> On Mar 8, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Andrew Keller <andrew(a)kellerfarm.com> wrote: >>> My software is compatible with 10.6.0 and later, but my installer is only compatible with 10.6.6 and later. > > Why on earth is this? The app runs just fine on 10.6.0, but the installer does this on pre-10.6.6: Mar 8 12:09:20 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: Running OS Build: Mac OS X 10.6.3 (10D575) [fast forward] Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: Package file://localhost/Volumes/My%20App/Install%20My%20App.pkg#My%20App.pkg not supported by PK Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: Will use IF session Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: PFPackage::packageWithURL - can't instantiate package: /Volumes/My App/Install My App.pkg Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: Error opening package "Install My App.pkg#My App.pkg". Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: Install failed: The Installer could not install the software because there was no software found to install. Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: IFDInstallController 14B670 state = 7 Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: Displaying 'Install Failed' UI. Mar 8 12:10:56 qa-macbook Installer[1153]: 'Install Failed' UI displayed message:'The Installer could not install the software.\n\nThe Installer could not install the software because there was no software found to install.'. That happens after you click the final Install button, after you click "Continue" on the warning that you'll have to restart your computer, and before you type in an admin password. >>> Is it possible to allow installing a package on any volume with 10.6.0 or later, but only if the currently booted operating system is 10.6.6 or later? >> >> 1) Is this really a necessary requirement? Most installers only allow installation on the booted volume > > There's no reason for this. > The fact that some packages are poorly written and work only on the boot volume should not obscure the fact that installation packages can and should when possible be authored to allow installation on any eligible volume. Both of those raise good points in my situation. Although I want to support the largest range of systems possible, using the approach I originally wanted, the only way to install onto <10.6.6 would be to install onto it from another computer running >=10.6.6. Although there is nothing wrong with that in practice, and although Apple's Installer seems to handle that scenario just fine, it occurs to me that that arrangement is going to make testing more difficult. So, from a testing point of view, it might be a good idea to only allow >=10.6.6. BUT... that still allows users to use < 10.6.6 to install onto a disk with >= 10.6.6. Based on the problem I encountered earlier, it looks like I should disallow installing onto *any* disk if the currently booted system is <10.6.6, which brings me back to my original goal, even though the exact versions may be slightly different. So, at the very least, users: * should be able to install onto any volume with >= 10.6.0 installed (or 10.6.6 if I want to reduce testing) * should not be able to install onto any volume if the host OS is running <10.6.6. >> , and it's usually a good idea to require the latest subrevision, 10.6.8. >> >> >> >> 2) "InstallationCheck" can check the booted system's version (you probably want system.version.ProductVersion) >> "VolumeCheck" can check the system version on the target disk (my.target.systemVersion.ProductVersion) >> See also system.compareVersions() Thanks, Andrew Keller _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Installation requirements
by Bill Coderre 11 Mar '13

11 Mar '13

On Mar 9, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Greg Neagle <Greg.Neagle(a)disneyanimation.com> wrote: > The fact that some packages are poorly written and work only on the boot volume should not obscure the fact that installation packages can and should when possible be authored to allow installation on any eligible volume. Some developers adopt this (install on non-boot volume) flexibility. It is a valid philosophy, and (I believe) well-supported by Apple's installer. My opinion is that it's not a good idea for the typical PRODUCT installers, because it's more likely to cause confusion than provide benefit. (What if the app requires 10.8, and the system has 10.8 booted, but the user selects a volume containing 10.6? Should installation be allowed? One can argue either way, and the arguments are, in my opinion, too complex to explicate in an error sheet.) On the other hand, for the kind of giganto multi-product installer for deploying "everything" onto a company-issued laptop, that flexibility is required, and it's probably worth the work to add the extra install logic, instead of just trusting the admin. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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