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Re: Installation requirements
by Greg Neagle 09 Mar '13

09 Mar '13

On Mar 8, 2013, at 5:17 PM, Bill Coderre <bc(a)apple.com> wrote: > > On Mar 8, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Andrew Keller <andrew(a)kellerfarm.com> wrote: >> My software is compatible with 10.6.0 and later, but my installer is only compatible with 10.6.6 and later. Why on earth is this? >> Is it possible to allow installing a package on any volume with 10.6.0 or later, but only if the currently booted operating system is 10.6.6 or later? > > 1) Is this really a necessary requirement? Most installers only allow installation on the booted volume There's no reason for this. The fact that some packages are poorly written and work only on the boot volume should not obscure the fact that installation packages can and should when possible be authored to allow installation on any eligible volume. > , and it's usually a good idea to require the latest subrevision, 10.6.8. > > > > 2) "InstallationCheck" can check the booted system's version (you probably want system.version.ProductVersion) > "VolumeCheck" can check the system version on the target disk (my.target.systemVersion.ProductVersion) > See also system.compareVersions() > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Installation requirements
by Bill Coderre 09 Mar '13

09 Mar '13

On Mar 8, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Andrew Keller <andrew(a)kellerfarm.com> wrote: > My software is compatible with 10.6.0 and later, but my installer is only compatible with 10.6.6 and later. Is it possible to allow installing a package on any volume with 10.6.0 or later, but only if the currently booted operating system is 10.6.6 or later? 1) Is this really a necessary requirement? Most installers only allow installation on the booted volume, and it's usually a good idea to require the latest subrevision, 10.6.8. 2) "InstallationCheck" can check the booted system's version (you probably want system.version.ProductVersion) "VolumeCheck" can check the system version on the target disk (my.target.systemVersion.ProductVersion) See also system.compareVersions() _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Installation requirements
by Andrew Keller 08 Mar '13

08 Mar '13

Hello all, My software is compatible with 10.6.0 and later, but my installer is only compatible with 10.6.6 and later. Is it possible to allow installing a package on any volume with 10.6.0 or later, but only if the currently booted operating system is 10.6.6 or later? Thanks, Andrew Keller _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Packages: order of payloads installation?
by Rustam Muginov 06 Mar '13

06 Mar '13

Stephane, Now i I do hope i understand it completely. I only need to assign the valid order of packages in "Presentation/Installation Type" by drag-and-droping them. Thank you again for your great product, before I discovered it, it was a nightmare to support installer with PackageMaker from Apple! -- Sincerely, Rustam Muginov On Mar 6, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Stephane Sudre wrote: > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Rustam Muginov <rmuginov(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Stephane, >> thank you. >> >> I had found the "Group" and "Merge" in the "Presentation/Installation Type". >> What is the difference between Group and Merge, > > In the hierarchy of choices of a distribution, you can have choices > and groups of choices. > > There's usually a 1 to 1 relationship between choices and packages. > But it's also possible to define that a choice will install multiple > packages (but still only one choice will be displayed for all those > packages). > > "Merge" creates a choice that contains multiple packages. 2 choices > for instance become one. > > "Group" creates a group of choices that contains the selected choices. > 2 choices are grouped in a parent choice. > >> and what is more suitable for my task (Standard Install only, no user choice, I only need to set the order of packages installed)? > > You just need to have a 1 level hierarchy and set the order of the > packages (choices) in the order you want. No need to group or merge. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Packages: order of payloads installation?
by Stephane Sudre 06 Mar '13

06 Mar '13

On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Rustam Muginov <rmuginov(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Stephane, > thank you. > > I had found the "Group" and "Merge" in the "Presentation/Installation Type". > What is the difference between Group and Merge, In the hierarchy of choices of a distribution, you can have choices and groups of choices. There's usually a 1 to 1 relationship between choices and packages. But it's also possible to define that a choice will install multiple packages (but still only one choice will be displayed for all those packages). "Merge" creates a choice that contains multiple packages. 2 choices for instance become one. "Group" creates a group of choices that contains the selected choices. 2 choices are grouped in a parent choice. > and what is more suitable for my task (Standard Install only, no user choice, I only need to set the order of packages installed)? You just need to have a 1 level hierarchy and set the order of the packages (choices) in the order you want. No need to group or merge. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Packages: order of payloads installation?
by Rustam Muginov 06 Mar '13

06 Mar '13

Stephane, thank you. I had found the "Group" and "Merge" in the "Presentation/Installation Type". What is the difference between Group and Merge, and what is more suitable for my task (Standard Install only, no user choice, I only need to set the order of packages installed)? Thank you very much. -- Sincerely, Rustam Muginov On Mar 6, 2013, at 12:28 AM, Stephane Sudre wrote: > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Rustam Muginov <rmuginov(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hello all. >> I am using Stephane Sudre's Packages to create installer with several "parts" or "payloads" (Application, Applications Support e.t.c. >> Am I right that they always installed in the order they are created? >> Are where any way to change the order of installation? > > For distributions, the order in which packages are installed is > determined by the hierarchy of choices ("visible" in the Installation > Type pane) and the selected state of the choices. There's potentially > an exception to this rule if you are using remote packages. > > When you add a package to a distribution project in Packages, the new > package is appended to the end of the hierarchy, so yes, they will be > installed in the order they are created. But then you can change the > hierarchy in the Project > Presentation > Installation Type pane to > have the hierarchy (and so order of installation) you want. > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/rmuginov%40gmail.com > > This email sent to rmuginov(a)gmail.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Packages: order of payloads installation?
by Stephane Sudre 06 Mar '13

06 Mar '13

On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Rustam Muginov <rmuginov(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello all. > I am using Stephane Sudre's Packages to create installer with several "parts" or "payloads" (Application, Applications Support e.t.c. > Am I right that they always installed in the order they are created? > Are where any way to change the order of installation? For distributions, the order in which packages are installed is determined by the hierarchy of choices ("visible" in the Installation Type pane) and the selected state of the choices. There's potentially an exception to this rule if you are using remote packages. When you add a package to a distribution project in Packages, the new package is appended to the end of the hierarchy, so yes, they will be installed in the order they are created. But then you can change the hierarchy in the Project > Presentation > Installation Type pane to have the hierarchy (and so order of installation) you want. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Packages: order of payloads installation?
by Rustam Muginov 06 Mar '13

06 Mar '13

Hello all. I am using Stephane Sudre's Packages to create installer with several "parts" or "payloads" (Application, Applications Support e.t.c. Am I right that they always installed in the order they are created? Are where any way to change the order of installation? Thank you. -- Sincerely, Rustam Muginov _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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