site_archiver@lists.apple.com Delivered-To: Installer-dev@lists.apple.com One last caveat -- The command line installer is the simplest example, but there are many others. -pmb _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a... At 4:32 PM -0700 5/11/07, Andy Kim wrote: On May 11, 2007, at 2:43 PM, Bill Coderre wrote: There are many who believe that the installer should ask ALL of its questions BEFORE the user hits install. (cf. "About Face" by Cooper and Reimann. In the first edition, Cooper calls installers that ask users questions during install, "Klingon interrogation mode" among other choice epithets.) Those are very good points. I'll almost certainly be changing my DownloadPlugin to follow that behavior. But I'll probably have to leave the email entry as a post-install process since that's what my boss wants. Entering your email during an install is somewhat annoying and unfortunately from a business standpoint users are probably less likely to go through an install if they see an email in the beginning. I'd personally prefer that it be in the application somewhere instead, but that's out of my hands. Sad to say, but "Kingon interrogation mode" sort of works here (we do leave it optional though). On a side note, I probably learned some bad installation principles from being a former employee of InstallShield. j/k InstallShield is great. ;) Make sure your software doesn't _require_ the plugins to install. There are several situations under which the installer is unable to load plugins. They're intended for optional use, with the presumption that any required actions can also be done in the app itself, if the app is installed via a mechanism that doesn't support the plugins. This email sent to site_archiver@lists.apple.com