site_archiver@lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev@lists.apple.com On lundi, octobre 16, 2006, at 01:02 AM, Peter Bierman wrote: _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a... At 11:22 PM +0100 10/14/06, Peter Mulholland wrote: Why on earth, have Apple not pushed out Installer updates to 10.3 users? Distribution scripts and such would make our lives a hell of a lot easier! We have found that our customers are best served by focusing our energy on continuous improvement instead of establishing a functional baseline. For example, it's probable that we'd never have created distribution scripts if we had instead been porting 10.3 functionality back to > 10.2. This is obviously frustrating to some developers and users. It's frustrating to me too that we can't please everyone, because I really like our users and developers. :-) But someday 10.4 will be the acceptable baseline. And someday 10.5, etc... So with every release we raise the bar so when that someday comes, developers will have the installer features they need for their products. I don't have the authority to release an exact breakdown of what percentages of our customers are running 10.4 vs 10.3, etc, but it's much more dramatic than most people would estimate. You might want to evaluate whether supporting your product on 10.3 is actually > necessary. For example, the Omni Group publishes these statistics gathered from their users: http://update.omnigroup.com/ The breakdown is supposed to be something like this (according to WWDC 2005 Keynote (all the information is public)): - 50% of the OS X installed base using 10.4 - 30-40% for 10.3 - the rest is 10.2, 10.1 and 10.0 (even though I would be surprised anyone ever really used the 10.0 release). The Omni Group figures are flawed IMHO and can't be used for anyone other than the Omni Group. A lot of Omni Group products are or have been bundled with Mac systems (Omni Graffle (great product) & Omni Outliner). Surprisingly enough, Apple is shipping the latest version of its OS with every Mac system. So if you consider that Apple shipped quite a lot of Mac systems since 10.4 was out, that almost all systems had a Omni Product with it, guess which version would show up in the statistics. This email sent to site_archiver@lists.apple.com