site_archiver@lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev@lists.apple.com On Nov 27, 2007, at 2:07 PM, Peter Mulholland wrote: Hmm, I did initially hate Xcode, and I still prefer Visual Studio, but it's not bad. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a... So is NSIS on Windows, which is more powerful. PM has most of the power I've ever needed personally, but its UI is confusing in its inconsistent use of terminology, its documentation sparse, and I'd certainly prefer that it didn't crash or corrupt its own project files constantly. I absolutely loathe having to launch that application because I just know something's going to break simply because I looked at it. It's certainly gotten better since Adobe made their demands clear, but its design philosophy remains centered around the notion that shell scripting support is an excuse for never implementing a lot of features that would actually make developers' lives easier, and I'm still waiting for basic things that CodeWarrior had a decade ago--like a text editor/code browser that could provide accurate syntax highlighting/hyperlink-style navigation AND keep up with an average person's typing speed on a 100MHz PPC 601, but we're way off topic now. The gist of my opining is that if Apple did 1/16th as much usability research for their developer tools as they do for the shiny trinkets that look good on TV there'd be fewer developers making silly mistakes and (probably) more good Mac software. Of course, there'd also be fewer DTS incidents from confused developers funding those researcher's salaries, so it's a tough nut to crack. I guess I just miss the days when there was actual competition in the Mac IDE market. This email sent to site_archiver@lists.apple.com