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Re: Getting info about a clip
by Paul Schneider 09 Mar '07

09 Mar '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi, Trevor, - Paul On Mar 9, 2007, at 5:44 AM, Trevor Anderson wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know of a way to get information about a clip from Final Cut using FxPlug? We get the current frame number, but this is dependent on the in point for the clip and will always begin at 0 wherever the clip is on the timeline. I have tried to use the currentTime method with the actionapi, but I am only getting 0 back from it. I am trying to implement my own keyframes here, but if I change the in point then the keyframes will move with it, since it always returns as 0. I can put each clip with the filter on it into a seperate sequence and nest them into the current timeline, but that seems a little tedious. Basically if there is anyway to get more information about the timeline and clips on it from within FxPlug I would like to know how. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… unfortunately, you're not missing anything; there's no way to get that information in the current FxPlug API. There should be some stuff in the next version (1.2) that will help you out - stay tuned! Thanks, Trevor _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/pschneider% 40apple.com This email sent to pschneider(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Getting info about a clip
by Trevor Anderson 09 Mar '07

09 Mar '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ktoIWOkV7FS0/Ejgy/yOrdFJ632sYrBIheeiVNWaWGKlIJLAReaT9VtVPCFhBFJhztX6eXwR7JUcmc7CYn8WoBcH3TtOEQIRfZUs2S/RJxkrA07HVHkukvtvTsrN/nxoU+t/NuKN02USMwvfvigWSrSPPtYkhWmvmUqI8bP0EXY= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=TJq8nG6mZQnpY7OCNJ+frUhBm96iytkoFN4UuADS+JBBT+KoDPBub4E60LmLMpUFX0mI9BLbNKGqLdf02L7p4UE5GHFc/plO0vr1rXT8ZOrR3P2nEsdLeXMKn5mQzZ2GWhTusz1+99Sa14slwcCHvNtG5mi8Ilo3LtgSUR40gtg= Hi all, Does anyone know of a way to get information about a clip from Final Cut using FxPlug? We get the current frame number, but this is dependent on the in point for the clip and will always begin at 0 wherever the clip is on the timeline. I have tried to use the currentTime method with the actionapi, but I am only getting 0 back from it. I am trying to implement my own keyframes here, but if I change the in point then the keyframes will move with it, since it always returns as 0. I can put each clip with the filter on it into a seperate sequence and nest them into the current timeline, but that seems a little tedious. Basically if there is anyway to get more information about the timeline and clips on it from within FxPlug I would like to know how. Thanks, Trevor _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Final Cut Pro - Plugin Authoring - Get Text Generators
by Dave Howell 03 Mar '07

03 Mar '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi Adam. Dave Adam Venturella <aventurella(a)gmail.com> wrote: Ya I figured I could just export the XML from Final Cut, write a parser to pull out the text I needed. I was trying to do it all while in FCP. Now I am new to Plugin development, so in my mind my workflow would be: FCP: Export XML Cocoa: open XML and parse accordingly, as far as what I want to do. Cocoa: Write new XML FCP import new XML It may be that I can tell FCP to export XML in the background, and open that via stdout, etc etc etc... I have no idea yet how FCP talks, what hooks are available, etc etc.. I am assuming FxPlug will enlighten me as to what is available. I want to be able to grab all of the Generated Text in the timeline so I can modify it. XML is definitely one way, I shall crack open the ol' SDK and see what she's got. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… I think you were on track in hoping to avoid the extra workflow indirection. I'd recommend writing an FxPlug Generator to accomplish that. You can create a custom UI view to let the user edit text. When you install the FxPlug SDK, you'll see a new Xcode template called FxPlug Generator that will help you get started. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Final Cut Pro - Plugin Authoring - Get Text Generators
by Eryk Vershen 03 Mar '07

03 Mar '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com -eryk On Mar 2, 2007, at 6:09 PM, Adam Venturella wrote: FCP: Export XML Cocoa: open XML and parse accordingly, as far as what I want to do. Cocoa: Write new XML FCP import new XML Thanks! Adam On Mar 2, 2007, at 4:28 PM, Andreas Kiel wrote: Adam, That would be helpful to help. Regards Andreas On 02.03.2007, at 22:52, Darrin Cardani wrote: On Mar 2, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Adam Venturella wrote: <http://developer.apple.com/appleapplications/fxplugsdk.html> You can learn about how FCP exports XML from here: <http://developer.apple.com/appleapplications/fcpxml.html> Darrin -- Darrin Cardani dcardani(a)apple.com Andreas Kiel Spherico Nelkenstr. 25 D-76135 Karlsruhe Tel.: +49 (0)721 183 9753 eFax: +1 650 897 8094 eMail: kiel(a)spherico.com http://spherico.com/filmtools -- workflow tools for FCP _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… Look at the FinalCutPro_AppleEvents sample code. You can have your external app, get the XML from FCP and then send XML to FCP. Main limitation is you need to known the FCP project in your external app - you can't ask FCP for it. Ya I figured I could just export the XML from Final Cut, write a parser to pull out the text I needed. I was trying to do it all while in FCP. Now I am new to Plugin development, so in my mind my workflow would be: It may be that I can tell FCP to export XML in the background, and open that via stdout, etc etc etc... I have no idea yet how FCP talks, what hooks are available, etc etc.. I am assuming FxPlug will enlighten me as to what is available. I want to be able to grab all of the Generated Text in the timeline so I can modify it. XML is definitely one way, I shall crack open the ol' SDK and see what she's got. You should learn about XML first if you want to edit some text generators into a timeline, try with with some build in generators like "Text". Look at those and how they are 'build' with the FCP FXBuilder and try to modify for your own needs and then look at the XML again. Finally look at the 'little bit odd' implementation of AE for FCP 5.1.x to directly place some stuff. Can you explain in more detail what you're trying to do? Can someone point me in the direction of a good tutorial on FCP Plugin Authoring and Getting text-generators on the timeline? I don't know of a tutorial, but you can download the FxPlug SDK from here: That can be useful for writing tools to modify or convert FCP documents. There's sample code for sending AppleEvents to FCP here: <http://developer.apple.com/samplecode/FinalCutPro_AppleEvents/ index.html> I'm not sure what you mean by getting text generators on the timeline. Can you explain in more detail what you're trying to do? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/andreas.kiel% 40spherico.com This email sent to andreas.kiel(a)spherico.com Latest Projects/News: Spherico releases the first full feature BWF iXML reader for Mac (for free) as well as a BWF test for BWF/FCP. Aaton recommends BWF2XML if you dare to work with BWF and FCP. Apple recommends BWF2XML as tool for Broadcast Wave Files when working with with film/HD and external audio. Sound Devices recommends BWF2XML as tool for Broadcast Wave Files and FCP. ARRI Film & TV chooses customized version of TitleExchange for subtitling film and HD projects with FCP. BWF2XML is used within David Fincher's "Zodiac" production for sound workflow. Being part of a technology award @ Daimler-Chrysler for "Best Technical Innovation" - testing virtual cars using my spherical video productions and concepts. So feel yourself and let others feel safe when driving a Daimler-Chrysler van - we tested the visual ergonomics with real world "content" in a virtual space. Ripple Training chooses TitleExchange Pro for video subtitling with their latest DVDSP training DVD (http:// www.rippletraining.com/movies/Free%20Downloads/ dvdsp_subsanity_960.mov) Sony US chooses BWF2XML for music video production workflow. Pixar chooses XML2Text for film production workflow. Apple Computer chooses BWF2XML for whatever. Adidas Japan chooses TitleExchange Pro for video subtitling. Haxan Films, the creators of the "Blair Witch Project", successfully used BWF2XML for their new project: "Altered". BBC/HBO production uses audio workflow tools from Spherico for BWF - http://www.hbo.com/events/rome/index.html Norway TV chooses special version of XML2Text for broadcast organization. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/evershen% 40apple.com This email sent to evershen(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Final Cut Pro - Plugin Authoring - Get Text Generators
by Adam Venturella 03 Mar '07

03 Mar '07

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Cocoa: Write new XML FCP import new XML Thanks! Adam On Mar 2, 2007, at 4:28 PM, Andreas Kiel wrote: Adam, That would be helpful to help. Regards Andreas On 02.03.2007, at 22:52, Darrin Cardani wrote: On Mar 2, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Adam Venturella wrote: <http://developer.apple.com/appleapplications/fxplugsdk.html> You can learn about how FCP exports XML from here: <http://developer.apple.com/appleapplications/fcpxml.html> Darrin -- Darrin Cardani dcardani(a)apple.com Andreas Kiel Spherico Nelkenstr. 25 D-76135 Karlsruhe Tel.: +49 (0)721 183 9753 eFax: +1 650 897 8094 eMail: kiel(a)spherico.com http://spherico.com/filmtools -- workflow tools for FCP _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… Ya I figured I could just export the XML from Final Cut, write a parser to pull out the text I needed. I was trying to do it all while in FCP. It may be that I can tell FCP to export XML in the background, and open that via stdout, etc etc etc... I have no idea yet how FCP talks, what hooks are available, etc etc.. I am assuming FxPlug will enlighten me as to what is available. I want to be able to grab all of the Generated Text in the timeline so I can modify it. XML is definitely one way, I shall crack open the ol' SDK and see what she's got. You should learn about XML first if you want to edit some text generators into a timeline, try with with some build in generators like "Text". Look at those and how they are 'build' with the FCP FXBuilder and try to modify for your own needs and then look at the XML again. Finally look at the 'little bit odd' implementation of AE for FCP 5.1.x to directly place some stuff. Can you explain in more detail what you're trying to do? Can someone point me in the direction of a good tutorial on FCP Plugin Authoring and Getting text-generators on the timeline? I don't know of a tutorial, but you can download the FxPlug SDK from here: That can be useful for writing tools to modify or convert FCP documents. There's sample code for sending AppleEvents to FCP here: <http://developer.apple.com/samplecode/FinalCutPro_AppleEvents/ index.html> I'm not sure what you mean by getting text generators on the timeline. Can you explain in more detail what you're trying to do? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/andreas.kiel% 40spherico.com This email sent to andreas.kiel(a)spherico.com Latest Projects/News: Spherico releases the first full feature BWF iXML reader for Mac (for free) as well as a BWF test for BWF/FCP. Aaton recommends BWF2XML if you dare to work with BWF and FCP. Apple recommends BWF2XML as tool for Broadcast Wave Files when working with with film/HD and external audio. Sound Devices recommends BWF2XML as tool for Broadcast Wave Files and FCP. ARRI Film & TV chooses customized version of TitleExchange for subtitling film and HD projects with FCP. BWF2XML is used within David Fincher's "Zodiac" production for sound workflow. Being part of a technology award @ Daimler-Chrysler for "Best Technical Innovation" - testing virtual cars using my spherical video productions and concepts. So feel yourself and let others feel safe when driving a Daimler-Chrysler van - we tested the visual ergonomics with real world "content" in a virtual space. Ripple Training chooses TitleExchange Pro for video subtitling with their latest DVDSP training DVD (http://www.rippletraining.com/ movies/Free%20Downloads/dvdsp_subsanity_960.mov) Sony US chooses BWF2XML for music video production workflow. Pixar chooses XML2Text for film production workflow. Apple Computer chooses BWF2XML for whatever. Adidas Japan chooses TitleExchange Pro for video subtitling. Haxan Films, the creators of the "Blair Witch Project", successfully used BWF2XML for their new project: "Altered". BBC/HBO production uses audio workflow tools from Spherico for BWF - http://www.hbo.com/events/rome/index.html Norway TV chooses special version of XML2Text for broadcast organization. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: NIB Problem
by Christoph Vonrhein 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi, thanks for the help. It works! Christoph On Mar 3, 2007, at 12:28 AM, Darrin Cardani wrote: Darrin On Mar 2, 2007, at 3:13 PM, Paul Schneider wrote: Hi, Christoph, NSBundle* bundle = [NSBundle bundleForClass:[self class]]; HTH, - Paul On Mar 2, 2007, at 5:18 PM, Christoph Vonrhein wrote: Hello Darrin, hello Dave, hello Apple. CFBundleRef bundleRef; IBNibRef nibRef; OSStatus err; err = CreateWindowFromNib(nibRef, CFSTR("Window"), &window); require_noerr (err, CantCreateWindow); DisposeNibReference(nibRef); [cocoaFromCarbonWin makeKeyAndOrderFront:nil]; CantCreateWindow: CantGetNibRef: _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… I've used CFBundleGetBundleWithIdentifier (CFSTR("My bundle identifier")) and it worked instantly. The only "drawback" compared to Paul's method is, that I need to enter the bundle identifier manually, instead of asking the system for it. But that's ok with me. The identifier won't change anyway. The "bundle" structure of OSX is still a little new to me, which was my problem in this case. But I'm learning more each and every day. Note that NSBundles are not toll-free bridged with CFBundleRefs, so you probably want to use CFBundleGetBundleWithIdentifier (CFSTR ("Your bundle identifier")) if you're going to use other Carbon calls. the "main" bundle will be the host application bundle, not your plugin bundle. You can get your plugin bundle like this: I am trying to open a simple window from within a FxPlug in order to display some data in it. I currently try it like this (in the initWithAPIManager method): bundleRef = CFBundleGetMainBundle(); err = CreateNibReferenceWithCFBundle(bundleRef,CFSTR ("NibWindow"), &nibRef); require_noerr (err, CantGetNibRef); cocoaFromCarbonWin = [[NSWindow alloc] initWithWindowRef:window]; The Nib-file is called NibWindow.nib and it contains just a Window object. It is placed in the English.lproj folder and in the XCode project in the Resources folder. I also have AppKit.framework, Foundation.framework, Cocoa.framework and Carbon.framework loaded. The CreateNibReferenceWithCFBundle method always gives me the error -10960 (kIBCarbonRuntimeCantFindNibFile), even though the nib file exists. Just for the heck of it, I once tried it with the MainMenu.nib file from the CarbonCocoaTempConverter (http:// developer.apple.com/samplecode/CarbonCocoaTempConverter/ index.html). That nib file was loaded (no error), but the CreateWindowFromNib method failed with error "-10", which an error number that is not even listed in Apples doc files. Is there something special regarding FxPlug and NIB files I did not see so far that I have to take note off ? _ This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: NIB Problem
by Darrin Cardani 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

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Re: NIB Problem
by Paul Schneider 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi, Christoph, NSBundle* bundle = [NSBundle bundleForClass:[self class]]; HTH, - Paul On Mar 2, 2007, at 5:18 PM, Christoph Vonrhein wrote: Hello Darrin, hello Dave, hello Apple. CFBundleRef bundleRef; IBNibRef nibRef; OSStatus err; err = CreateWindowFromNib(nibRef, CFSTR("Window"), &window); require_noerr (err, CantCreateWindow); DisposeNibReference(nibRef); cocoaFromCarbonWin = [[NSWindow alloc] initWithWindowRef:window]; [cocoaFromCarbonWin makeKeyAndOrderFront:nil]; CantCreateWindow: CantGetNibRef: best regards Christoph Vonrhein _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… the "main" bundle will be the host application bundle, not your plugin bundle. You can get your plugin bundle like this: I am trying to open a simple window from within a FxPlug in order to display some data in it. I currently try it like this (in the initWithAPIManager method): bundleRef = CFBundleGetMainBundle(); err = CreateNibReferenceWithCFBundle(bundleRef,CFSTR("NibWindow"), &nibRef); require_noerr (err, CantGetNibRef); The Nib-file is called NibWindow.nib and it contains just a Window object. It is placed in the English.lproj folder and in the XCode project in the Resources folder. I also have AppKit.framework, Foundation.framework, Cocoa.framework and Carbon.framework loaded. The CreateNibReferenceWithCFBundle method always gives me the error -10960 (kIBCarbonRuntimeCantFindNibFile), even though the nib file exists. Just for the heck of it, I once tried it with the MainMenu.nib file from the CarbonCocoaTempConverter (http://developer.apple.com/ samplecode/CarbonCocoaTempConverter/index.html). That nib file was loaded (no error), but the CreateWindowFromNib method failed with error "-10", which an error number that is not even listed in Apples doc files. Is there something special regarding FxPlug and NIB files I did not see so far that I have to take note off ? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/pschneider% 40apple.com This email sent to pschneider(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: NIB Problem
by Paul Schneider 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

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Re: NIB Problem
by Darrin Cardani 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

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