October 2009 - Pro-apps-dev

Image size limitations
by Brian Gardner 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=CctTeQy2B+KHgcAKvjeKal8ddzJuKzHRuS/C6Dc53kVw+19JpAFFko9L5BzxJT2O; h=Received:From:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Date:Subject:To:Message-Id:Mime-Version:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; What exactly are the limitations on image size? And are they the same for both FCP and Motion? Are the FxPlugins limited to 2048 wide images? Is there any plans to support larger images (like 4096, 8192, or 16384 wide for Red Camera or IMAX workflow)? Personally, I'd love to have 4608x1200 and 8352x 2400 images. But, that's just me. I'm sure that FCP supporting a 4K Red Camera (fully natively) is at the top of everyone's Christmas List this year. But, I'm wondering, how far can we push the image size today, and how soon will be able to push it how much further? -- Brian _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: A quick FxScript query interruption
by Darrin Cardani 12 Oct '09

12 Oct '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Oct 7, 2009, at 6:01 PM, Alex Gollner wrote: Does anyone know how to pass non-numeric parameters to filters and generators using Darrin -- Darrin Cardani dcardani(a)apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… Filter("name", source, dest, frame, duration, fps, ["parmName", parmValue, ...]) Generator("name", dest, frame, duration, fps, ["parmName", parmValue, ...]) Alex, Can you explain in more detail what you're having trouble with? What have you tried, and what results did you get? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: getting a filter input's current frame number
by Andrew Mees 09 Oct '09

09 Oct '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi Darrin You may recall our email conversation from some months back regarding the possibility of implementing a call within the FxGenerator API that would return an image buffer for the underlying timeline and the wonderful world of adjustment layer possibilities that that would open up to developers of FxPlugs for FCP. I'd urge you to please consider this again during this new development cycle. Best Andy On Friday, 09 October, 2009, at 01:22AM, "Darrin Cardani" <dcardani(a)apple.com> wrote: > >And I just want to say to any other developers out there with ideas, >now is a great time to give your ideas to us, as we're at the start of >our new development cycle. In another month or two we'll probably be >too busy implementing what we've come up with to start designing and >adding more stuff. So please let us know what you want now! > >Thanks, >Darrin >-- >Darrin Cardani >dcardani(a)apple.com > > > _______________________________________________ >Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) >Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/andymees%40mac.com > >This email sent to andymees(a)mac.com > > _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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my ideas
by Klaus Eiperle 08 Oct '09

08 Oct '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Importance: High Organization: Eiperle CGM Thread-index: AcpIO+So/g/Cw0BmR46rauJopwLwZwAB0gsg Here is my wishlist: I develope FXScript plug-ins since 2000 and I think FxScript is a very comfortable programming language for developing all kind of effects for Final Cut Pro and Final Cut Express. I hope these effects are still working with forthcoming Final Cut Pro 8. There are a lot of benefits you know and the problems we can solve... maybe together. All the best, Klaus Eiperle CGM Kremserweg 2 88339 Bad Waldsee - Reute GERMANY Phone: +49 (0)7524 49614 Fax: +49 (0)7524 49610 Homepage: cgm-online.com, rc-aerobatics.eu > And I just want to say to any other developers out there with ideas, > now is a great time to give your ideas to us, as we're at the > start of > our new development cycle. In another month or two we'll probably be > too busy implementing what we've come up with to start designing and > adding more stuff. So please let us know what you want now! > > Thanks, > Darrin > -- > Darrin Cardani > dcardani(a)apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: getting a filter input's current frame number
by Darrin Cardani 08 Oct '09

08 Oct '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Oct 7, 2009, at 4:53 PM, Brian Gardner wrote: This quickly turned into a show-stopper for me. Pretty much all of the plugins I was writing became immediately useless. So, I just stopped developing. I'm really sorry to hear that. That really bums me out. I think the schedule for the next point-zero FxPlug SDK release needs to happen much sooner than expected. <http://bugreporter.apple.com/> I hope we'll be able to add this functionality in the future. Thanks, Darrin -- Darrin Cardani dcardani(a)apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… Unfortunately, we can't do that. Legal tells me that we can't add new functionality to the SDK until we have a paid release of the Studio due to Sarbanes-Oxley (an obscure business law in the US). If it were up to me, we'd have releases every few months, but sadly, it's not up to me. Being unable to get the current frame number from an input, and consequently the corresponding 'current frame' from an image parameter, makes all image parameters effectively useless, as well. As soon as a user changes the in-point, the filter gives the wrong results. FCP is an Editing app -- so, changing the in-point is kind of critical functionality .... Realistically, we can't tell FCP users to use our plugins "as long as they don't edit them". :-) I realize that it's much more cumbersome to do this, but couldn't you have control which allows the user to set where to start getting frames from in the image well clip? It means they'd have to match it up by hand, which is a pain, but at least it makes what you're trying to do possible. BTW, because a corresponding problem exists with editing in-points in Generators, which makes image parameters useless there, I had re-written all my FxGenerators as FxFilters. Then, I hit this lack of -inPointOfInputFilter problem in Filters. -- So, I have no work-around. I've tried a half dozen work-arounds, and subsequently hit a half a dozen bugs (or missing APIs). Have you filed those bugs? If not, they won't be getting fixed. We can't fix any bugs that aren't in Radar (our bug database), so please file them at: Certainly, adding -inPointOfInputToFilter would be a huge necessary step. But, there seems to be a much broader underlying problem with the handling of in-point changes, across all classes of effects (not just filters). To date, I have not written a single FxPlugin which will work correctly when the user starts to edit the in-point. This implies to me that the APIs for dealing with in-points in the FxPlug SDK really needs to be re- addressed soon. *** I really believe that there should be some sort of (callback- ish) methods added to the FxBaseEffect class to allow the plugin to be informed of in-point changes and "cloning" (e.g. caused by razor "cuts" or "copy'n'paste"). A razor "cut" is effectively a clone of the clip along with an in- point change to the clone. The developer can optionally write (override) their own version of these methods, if they need the in-point tracking or cloning tracking functionality (seems common). If you read all the developer emails about these topics, it seems that many of them are resolvable if there existed methods in the FxBaseEffect class which would be invoked upon the in-point change and/or cloning of an effect. This would resolve all of the internal ID updating developers do, as well as an frame number tracking that they keep tabs on internal to the plugin. Whether cloning is done to create a copy (from clipboard), or to read it back in from disk (eg File->Open Project) -- seems like this could just be a flag parameter passed to the (clone) callback method. This could also resolve a lot of initialization issues we've seen crop up in emails. This is an interesting idea. I'm not sure what it would take to implement it, and I'm not sure of all the implications of doing it, but please add this information to your bug about the in point API and we'll consider it. And I just want to say to any other developers out there with ideas, now is a great time to give your ideas to us, as we're at the start of our new development cycle. In another month or two we'll probably be too busy implementing what we've come up with to start designing and adding more stuff. So please let us know what you want now! This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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A quick FxScript query interruption
by Alex Gollner 08 Oct '09

08 Oct '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AcpHstBsLL2CBRTP4kalm4T8txo7RQ== Thread-topic: A quick FxScript query interruption User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.20.0.090605 Does anyone know how to pass non-numeric parameters to filters and generators using Filter("name", source, dest, frame, duration, fps, ["parmName", parmValue, ...]) Generator("name", dest, frame, duration, fps, ["parmName", parmValue, ...]) Alex __________________________________________________ Alexandre Gollner, Editor, Zone 2-North West, London alex4d on twitter, facebook, .wordpress.com & .com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: getting a filter input's current frame number
by Brian Gardner 07 Oct '09

07 Oct '09

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Re: getting a filter input's current frame number
by Peter Litwinowicz 07 Oct '09

07 Oct '09

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Compressor Cluster - Always Copy media problem
by Benoit Breault 06 Oct '09

06 Oct '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi, We have a cluster with two macmini working with Final Cut Server and watchfolders. We send quicktime reference files from AVID Media Composer to the cluster with the watchfolder. Each macmini access over network to all volumes with the original media. It worked fine before updating to FCS 1.5 and compressor 3.5. Now, all original media from the QT REF are copied over the network to the macmini. 2 strange behavior. First, even if the compressor of the FCS is configured to "Never copy Source file", it copies every files (sometimes over 90Gb) Second, the /var/spool/ folder of compressor on the cluster do not seem to empty itself, so the hard drive is getting full and problems come up. (maybe fill up before it is supposed to empty by itself) What could be faulty? Thanks Ben _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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[Q] Bringing external application to the top-most by clicking FCP's import/export menu item
by JongAm Park 01 Oct '09

01 Oct '09

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=6UT66/zMdKetvEAvcnvM/vfXtVPQKJgIEhaGp95GVmIcSON4QpConel1lCElIJrvJPUJUZklerwAyAOe8RvP/a62G+MLkjGP0kg+lMMv27zDdjJYcKVqJcuIazbZrcNo/smu5+nJgEUrya0vTbOwFJwVoTlHdeV6x0yQnGrejlc= ; User-agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) Hello, Thank you. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… I have FCP plugins which reside in Import/output menu. The FCP plugins are to launch external programs and bring those to the top-most position by calling AppleScript script. What I found interesting was that if I did so using File=>Import menu, it brought an external application to the top, while if I did by right-clicking on a FCP project window ( contextual menu ), the external app once moved to the top and the FCP project window moved to the top-most to hide the external app. So, is there any way to bring the external app to the top-most even no matter what way to do so? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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