January 2012 - Pro-apps-dev

Re: An XML question
by Andreas Kiel 02 Jan '12

02 Jan '12

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi Bob, Yes it's really a while. Best for 2012. Best regards Andreas On 02.01.2012, at 20:21, Robert Monaghan wrote: Hi Andreas, Its been a while! Best Regards, bob. Robert Monaghan Glue Tools LLC www.gluetools.com On Jan 2, 2012, at 7:48 AM, Andreas Kiel wrote: Hi all and all the best for 2012, Kind regards Andreas <speedTest.fcpxml.zip> _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… You're number one on the test list in terms of speed :) So with only 8 Gigs of RAM it can't be the amount of of RAM available and obviously also the drives don't matter that much. We experienced the delays and beach balls as well. Hmm? 4 minutes 9 seconds on a 12-core Mac Pro with 8 Gigs of RAM. (Olde fashioned Spindles for drives.) That is *only* how long it took to get a timeline. Afterwards, it took another 2 minutes to do anything interactively with the timeline. Once the beach ball disappeared, there was a 10 second lag before the timeline really became instantly interactive. If I click outside of FCPX and clicked back inside the application, I was subjected to the same 10-second penalty. With the very few XML tools I did for FCPX, we had some tests here and with a few of my customers importing and exporting subtitles. Exporting is easy, fast but not really very satisfactory as there are options missing for style etc and user settings within the resulting XML. Importing seems to be very slow on the machines where the import was tested. But those machines we used weren't the latest and sometimes there might have been not enough RAM installed. So if anybody finds the time to import the attached XMLand do some bench test it would be great. Having some values from more people maybe would help to help my (and Apple maybe as well) to make XML handling better. The XML contains titles only (about 1000 using a build in generator and all of them do have the same text - except the one or other does have 2 paragraphs with the same text) which are exported directly from FCPX - there is no modification made to the XML. Importing the XML will create a new empty event on the disk you choose and a new project file. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/bob% 40gluetools.com This email sent to bob(a)gluetools.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: An XML question
by Robert Monaghan 02 Jan '12

02 Jan '12

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi Andreas, Its been a while! 4 minutes 9 seconds on a 12-core Mac Pro with 8 Gigs of RAM. (Olde fashioned Spindles for drives.) That is *only* how long it took to get a timeline. Afterwards, it took another 2 minutes to do anything interactively with the timeline. Once the beach ball disappeared, there was a 10 second lag before the timeline really became instantly interactive. If I click outside of FCPX and clicked back inside the application, I was subjected to the same 10-second penalty. Best Regards, bob. Robert Monaghan Glue Tools LLC www.gluetools.com On Jan 2, 2012, at 7:48 AM, Andreas Kiel wrote: > Hi all and all the best for 2012, > > With the very few XML tools I did for FCPX, we had some tests here and with a few of my customers importing and exporting subtitles. > Exporting is easy, fast but not really very satisfactory as there are options missing for style etc and user settings within the resulting XML. > Importing seems to be very slow on the machines where the import was tested. But those machines we used weren't the latest and sometimes there might have been not enough RAM installed. > > So if anybody finds the time to import the attached XMLand do some bench test it would be great. Having some values from more people maybe would help to help my (and Apple maybe as well) to make XML handling better. > The XML contains titles only (about 1000 using a build in generator and all of them do have the same text - except the one or other does have 2 paragraphs with the same text) which are exported directly from FCPX - there is no modification made to the XML. > Importing the XML will create a new empty event on the disk you choose and a new project file. > > Kind regards > Andreas > > > <speedTest.fcpxml.zip> > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/bob%40gluetools.com > > This email sent to bob(a)gluetools.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Fwd: Your XML import test
by Andreas Kiel 02 Jan '12

02 Jan '12

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Many thanks Alex, Again many thanks for investing the time to test. Cheers Andreas On 02.01.2012, at 17:45, Alex Gollner wrote: I then quit, restarted FCP... The import then took 7 min 27 sec. All this was on my 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7 iMac with 16 GB 1333 MHz RAM. Imported from the Apple-standard sold state drive with 90 GB free. Not very fast considering this is a fast computer with lots of RAM. Alex _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… Compared to the results we got before this seems to be pretty fast. Maybe in your case the SSD helps a bit since FCPX seems to load the Motion template for every instance of a title sometimes. The older results differ from 10 to 40 minutes, for one it was above 1 hour. But compared to legacy FCP it's still pretty slow. I did the same sequence for FCP7 XML and it did take about 20 to 50 seconds. ...took 7 min 31 sec, I deleted the event and project... it then took 8 min 48 sec, I deleted the event and project again, it took even longer: 9 min 44! This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: An XML question
by Andreas Kiel 02 Jan '12

02 Jan '12

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi Rainer, Hope you had a good party at the end of 2011:) As said before would be great if someone from Apple would chime in. Regards Andreas On 02.01.2012, at 18:18, Rainer Standke wrote: Hi Andreas, Rainer On Jan 2, 2012, at 7:48, Andreas Kiel wrote: Hi all and all the best for 2012, Kind regards Andreas <speedTest.fcpxml.zip> _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… Your measures more or less confirmes what Alex and Bruce got and I got on my personal machine - though it's much faster than we got on other machines. Good thing you mentioned is the 'semi-responsive'. Me and other in our small circle did see that as well - and it seems to 'swap over' to other apps which are open at the same time. If you say "Clearly your sequence is of a magnitude that FCP X is not designed for." it's a thing I don't understand. The original timing and amount of subtitles do come from a documentary made in FCP7. I just changed all text paragraphs to 'Title 3', converted the XMEML to FCPXML, imported it and exported it again to make sure it got the right (original FCPX) format. It's only a text from an ~1h11m docu. With the XML even without video or any effects? Did you mean that an 1h11m docu with subtitles is not possible in FCPX :) importing your file took 9 minutes on a 4 Core Mac Pro with 8GB of RAM, then FCPX took another 4 minutes to figure out that all items needed to be rendered. After all that FCP becomes semi-responsive. Clearly your sequence is of a magnitude that FCP X is not designed for. With the very few XML tools I did for FCPX, we had some tests here and with a few of my customers importing and exporting subtitles. Exporting is easy, fast but not really very satisfactory as there are options missing for style etc and user settings within the resulting XML. Importing seems to be very slow on the machines where the import was tested. But those machines we used weren't the latest and sometimes there might have been not enough RAM installed. So if anybody finds the time to import the attached XMLand do some bench test it would be great. Having some values from more people maybe would help to help my (and Apple maybe as well) to make XML handling better. The XML contains titles only (about 1000 using a build in generator and all of them do have the same text - except the one or other does have 2 paragraphs with the same text) which are exported directly from FCPX - there is no modification made to the XML. Importing the XML will create a new empty event on the disk you choose and a new project file. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/lists% 40standke.com This email sent to lists(a)standke.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: An XML question
by Andreas Kiel 02 Jan '12

02 Jan '12

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Re: An XML question
by Bruce Sharpe 02 Jan '12

02 Jan '12

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An XML question
by Andreas Kiel 02 Jan '12

02 Jan '12

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi all and all the best for 2012, Kind regards Andreas _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com With the very few XML tools I did for FCPX, we had some tests here and with a few of my customers importing and exporting subtitles. Exporting is easy, fast but not really very satisfactory as there are options missing for style etc and user settings within the resulting XML. Importing seems to be very slow on the machines where the import was tested. But those machines we used weren't the latest and sometimes there might have been not enough RAM installed. So if anybody finds the time to import the attached XMLand do some bench test it would be great. Having some values from more people maybe would help to help my (and Apple maybe as well) to make XML handling better. The XML contains titles only (about 1000 using a build in generator and all of them do have the same text - except the one or other does have 2 paragraphs with the same text) which are exported directly from FCPX - there is no modification made to the XML. Importing the XML will create a new empty event on the disk you choose and a new project file. speedTest.fcpxml.zip

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Issue with Groups in motion 5.0.1
by ganga 02 Jan '12

02 Jan '12

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 Hello , I found problem with the FxFilters (GLSLFxPlug) , - Apply GLSLFxplug to the main in the project Thanks, Gangaraju _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a… please try the following with the project i shared at " https://sites.google.com/site/gangarajump/home/motionproject" In frameSetup if the size of the input info is greater than (2048*2048) i'm disabling the hardware rendering . For this case the motion is crashing ,please find the crash report at the above link. with out disabling the hardware rendering ,motion is hanging. while debugging i noticed the size in the frameSetup with input info is (width = 32878 height = 236824) If i apply to individual layers it is proper,please let me know the actual problem. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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