site_archiver@lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev@lists.apple.com Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=e5sUS4x/ro95RWCdMnPSkZm0bLQaH9d7WWiHQT0cGCwEb90h5K2tP6M6ripmgJhg11MPVF6qHelWrpX+qgTCFdRgmVRUKQxHO3BI3u7g/t6Cxto+vEc5F3bXixASU8Fp8ApC+84EoxtnoDeyNqQP97cgMRS0TpvcoOorDio9wAk= ; User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 Thank you for the information. By the way, is the Spruce STL format retired? Thank you JongAm Park On May 18, 2010, at 9:29 AM, JongAm Park wrote: May I ask if any documentation on Spruce STL is available? I would like to know this : ----------- ------------- Talks about the format <http://www.theneitherworld.com/mcpoodle/SCC_TOOLS/DOCS/SCC_FORMAT.HTML> The above points to this link on the US Government printing office: <http://www.gpoaccess.gov/cfr/index.html> Hope that helps, Darrin -- Darrin Cardani dcardani@apple.com -- -- 子曰 不而不改 是謂過矣니라 공자께서 말씀하시길, 잘못을 하고도 고치지 않는 것, 그것을 잘못이라 한다. - 論語< 衛 靈 公>편 JongAm Park jongampark@sbcglobal.net Visit my personal blog at http://jongampark.blogspot.com Visit my technical blog at http://jongampark.wordpress.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.ap... I received your email when I was at NSCoder Night Santa Monica, but couldn't read the whole document, especially SCC_FORMAT.HTML on my iPod Touch. So, I tried to find if it contains any information we want on my office computer, but it explains subtitle standard not "how STL declares CC1/2/3/4, 708-1/2.../7 or WSS Page 1/.../9FF". I'm not sure if people can infer from the link you provided. I finally got some idea that "CC", "708" and "WSS Page" mean some subtitle standard numbers, though. On 5/18/2010 2:47 PM, Darrin Cardani wrote: Specifically, there is some question how STL declares (or can declare?) which CC1/2/3/4, 708-1/2/…/7, or WSS Page 1/…/9FF. There’s a million possibilities, and I had hoped someone wrote a few of them down ;) However, it would be very nice if there is a full document or any document. Since this isn't a format that we have any control over, we don't have any documentation on it. I quick search of the web reveals several web sites claiming knowledge of the format, though I imagine that going to the manufacturer would be the best route (assuming they still exist). Here are a few links I turned up, though you've probably already found these yourself: from which you can search for and freely download EIA/CEA standard 608-B, and I would assume, 708, as well. Some code for reading .scc files: <http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/samplecode/ClosedCaptionImporter/Introduction/Intro.html> This email sent to site_archiver@lists.apple.com