Re: time & timecode semantics in XML exports
site_archiver@lists.apple.com Delivered-To: pro-apps-dev@lists.apple.com Hi all, <effect> <name>Time Remap</name> <effectid>timeremap</effectid> <effectcategory>motion</effectcategory> <effecttype>motion</effecttype> <mediatype>video</mediatype> <parameter> <parameterid>variablespeed</parameterid> <name>variablespeed</name> <valuemin>0</valuemin> <valuemax>1</valuemax> <value>1</value> </parameter> <parameter> <parameterid>mappedduration</parameterid> <name>mappedduration</name> </parameter> <parameter> <parameterid>speed</parameterid> <name>speed</name> <valuemin>-100000</valuemin> <valuemax>100000</valuemax> <value>100</value> </parameter> <parameter> <parameterid>reverse</parameterid> <name>reverse</name> <value>FALSE</value> </parameter> <parameter> <parameterid>frameblending</parameterid> <name>frameblending</name> </parameter> <parameter> <parameterid>graphdict</parameterid> <name>graphdict</name> <valuemin>0</valuemin> <valuemax>29494</valuemax> <keyframe> <when>0</when> <value>0</value> <speedkfstart>TRUE</speedkfstart> <speedvirtualkf>TRUE</speedvirtualkf> <origvalue>0</origvalue> </keyframe> <keyframe> <when>8916</when> <value>8916</value> <speedkfin>TRUE</speedkfin> <speedvirtualkf>TRUE</speedvirtualkf> <origvalue>8916</origvalue> </keyframe> <keyframe> <when>8988</when> <value>8988</value> </keyframe> <keyframe> <when>9000</when> <value>10681</value> </keyframe> <keyframe> <when>9159</when> <value>10840.7</value> <speedkfout>TRUE</speedkfout> <speedvirtualkf>TRUE</speedvirtualkf> <origvalue>10840.7</origvalue> </keyframe> <keyframe> <when>9943</when> <value>11628</value> </keyframe> <keyframe> <when>29494</when> <value>29494</value> <speedkfend>TRUE</speedkfend> <speedvirtualkf>TRUE</speedvirtualkf> <origvalue>29494</origvalue> </keyframe> <interpolation> <name>FCPCurve</name> </interpolation> <value>1302</value> </parameter> </effect> "<clipitem id=\"BJ001dv2\"> <name>BJ001dv</name> <duration>56094</duration> <rate> <ntsc>FALSE</ntsc> <timebase>25</timebase> </rate> <in>2630</in> <out>2758</out> <start>729</start> <end>857</end> <filter> <effect> <name>Time Remap</name> <effectid>timeremap</effectid> <effectcategory>motion</effectcategory> <effecttype>motion</effecttype> <mediatype>video</mediatype> <parameter> <parameterid>variablespeed</parameterid> <name>variablespeed</name> <valuemin>0</valuemin> <valuemax>1</valuemax> <value>1</value> </parameter> <parameter> <parameterid>mappedduration</parameterid> <name>mappedduration</name> <value> <timecode> <rate> <timebase>0</timebase> </rate> <string>0</string> <frame>0</frame> <displayformat>NDF</displayformat> </timecode> </value> </parameter> <parameter> <parameterid>speed</parameterid> <name>speed</name> <valuemin>-100000</valuemin> <valuemax>100000</valuemax> <value>212.023</value> </parameter> <parameter> <parameterid>reverse</parameterid> <name>reverse</name> <value>FALSE</value> </parameter> <parameter> <parameterid>frameblending</parameterid> <name>frameblending</name> <value>TRUE</value> </parameter> <parameter> <parameterid>graphdict</parameterid> <name>graphdict</name> <valuemin>0</valuemin> <valuemax>61658</valuemax> <keyframe> <when>0</when> <value>0</value> <speedkfstart>TRUE</speedkfstart> </keyframe> <keyframe> <when>2607</when> <value>2866</value> </keyframe> <keyframe> <when>2630</when> <value>2901.11</value> <speedkfin>TRUE</speedkfin> </keyframe> <keyframe> <when>2683</when> <value>2983</value> </keyframe> <keyframe> <when>2703</when> <value>3028</value> </keyframe> <keyframe> <when>2743</when> <value>3144</value> </keyframe> <keyframe> <when>2758</when> <value>3172.5</value> <speedkfout>TRUE</speedkfout> </keyframe> <keyframe> <when>2783</when> <value>3220</value> </keyframe> <keyframe> <when>3149</when> <value>3149</value> </keyframe> <keyframe> <when>56094</when> <value>61658</value> <speedkfend>TRUE</speedkfend> </keyframe> <interpolation> <name>FCPCurve</name> </interpolation> <value>2887.62</value> </parameter> </effect> </filter> <sourcetrack> <mediatype>video</mediatype> </sourcetrack> Any help would be really appreciated. Regards Andreas _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.ap... (Helena - You still have some time to waste?) To be honest - even if I sound stupid or look like an idiot - I still got not an exact idea how to retrieve clip in/out with (variable) time remap. Below an example from a BBC production. This example uses a variable speed exported as XML V2 (from 5.1.4 as stated by the people from BBC who created it) … <in>8916</in> <out>9159</out> … It seems to be pretty simple here since I can search for <when> == 8916 and <when> == 9159 or the <speedkfin> and <speedkfout> and get the value from there. Unfortunately there is no suggestion in the docs how to handle the 10840.7 -- going back to FCP it could be 10839 or 10840 or 10841. Same even with an integer as an out frame let's say 10840 - back to FCP it can be 10840 or 10839. Is there some documentation about the scheme (how to handle) available? ( ;-) Again it would be nice with XML V4 to have an node which tells me how number formats are handled -- on my german system the 10840.7 would be 10840,7 which can cause some collisions when working international, especially if I want to go backwards (but I've to check that for more details)). Another example from Australia (same FCP setup as above - as stated by the user). Here the editor decided to remap and then to reset the things -- an entry still exists in the XML without <when> - I can still look at <speed> = 100 and forget, but hmmmm :). Also the entry <parameter><parameterid>mappedduration</ parameterid><name>mappedduration</name><value><timecode> … looks more "rich" as in the previous example and looks some kind of senseless to me as the time base is 0 - I can't find any docs about that to handle. … <in>4108</in> <out>4128</out> … <effect> <name>Time Remap</name> <effectid>timeremap</effectid> <effectcategory>motion</effectcategory> <effecttype>motion</effecttype> <mediatype>video</mediatype> <parameter> <parameterid>variablespeed</parameterid> <name>variablespeed</name> <valuemin>0</valuemin> <valuemax>1</valuemax> <value>0</value> </parameter> <parameter> <parameterid>mappedduration</parameterid> <name>mappedduration</name> <value> <timecode> <rate> <timebase>0</timebase> </rate> <string>0</string> <frame>0</frame> <displayformat>NDF</displayformat> </timecode> </value> </parameter> <parameter> <parameterid>speed</parameterid> <name>speed</name> <valuemin>-100000</valuemin> <valuemax>100000</valuemax> <value>100</value> </parameter> <parameter> <parameterid>reverse</parameterid> <name>reverse</name> <value>FALSE</value> </parameter> <parameter> <parameterid>frameblending</parameterid> <name>frameblending</name> <value>TRUE</value> </parameter> </effect> Here an example for variable speed from the same sequence from Australia: In FCP the source in is shown as "3197" and out as "3172". With that clip above I currently have no idea how extract these values from the above data. This email sent to site_archiver@lists.apple.com
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Andreas Kiel