On 8/23/2013 11:37 AM, Darrin Cardani wrote: If you open the template in a text editor, what does it say the version is? It should look something like this: _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Pro-apps-dev mailing list (Pro-apps-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/pro-apps-dev/site_archiver%40lists.a... This email sent to site_archiver@lists.apple.com Sorry guys false alarm. I had a chicken-egg related problem with that first parameter that was related to how many times the effect instance was created.