site_archiver@lists.apple.com Delivered-To: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gevityinc.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector1-gevityinc-com; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=xSiuTf/drqs9P3FBJpXLGsUidUHoxlA9a7BFb3kl+pg=; b=Y4PJ5iogTa6kpaEX+4xmMQ500/RJsy5u3PG5l4MwVpIW/6vmVYwMU2jz03PtsQo9fqIhWLYhTJy0jDneFS1FNPyOXFvuHq/UaeRQ/Vr5981lnZDwHknKJgMUTQSllzxPuDa9z2IJspJMdtYpDpcSTr1mz9nf/zI0OyBAWbLvsLs= Spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 Thread-index: AQHUOhCcCiGDuXdauUezdrE/XVYZIaTOKT+AgARfAgA= Thread-topic: OSCPool/EO stack management/relaunch (was: Should ERXEC get sharedEC automagically?) Finally, an easy question! Compatible just means that modelA.connectionDictionary().equals(modelB.connectionDictionary()) Chuck From: "ocs@ocs" <ocs@ocs.cz> Date: Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 7:03 PM To: Chuck Hill <chill@gevityinc.com> Cc: "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com" <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com> Subject: Re: OSCPool/EO stack management/relaunch (was: Should ERXEC get sharedEC automagically?) Chuck, I guess I have solved the mystery :) Looks like all what's needed is - to set up freely the OSCPool with any number of coordinators - at the init time, to use "isolation=serializable/locking=pessimistic" in my models - and switch off the SEC (by setting it to null in my ERXEC) - when all the init work is done, I simply call EODatabaseContext.forceConnectionWithModel(model,[URL:"jdbc:FrontBase://$dbhost/$dbname/user=$user/isolation=read_committed/locking=optimistic"],ec) and that's that, it seems it works all right, for subsequently all (session-based) ECs seem to work properly with the (OSC-based) SEC, and the connexion indeed is read-committed/optimistic, as need be. There's just one small thing I am not sure of: forceConnectionWithModel re-connects “all compatible models in the model group” too. Alas the documentation does not say what a “compatible” model is — what does that mean? How does the EOF determine which models are compatible? Thanks and all the best, OC On 22 Aug 2018, at 2:06 PM, ocs@ocs <ocs@ocs.cz<mailto:ocs@ocs.cz>> wrote: Chuck, hmmm... coudn't I somehow switch off temporarily the OSCPool, so that the initialisation code happens precisely as if there was no pool at all, and only then, when done, the pool starts behaving as normally? Actually I could benefit — if it is possible — from that, not only due to the SEC, but for other reasons as well (it would help if I could run the initialisation code against the DB in the “isolation=serializable/locking=pessimistic” mode, switching to “isolation=read_committed/locking=optimistic” for the normal processing). The init code just reads some objects from the db (including INFORMATION_SCHEMA, which is the reason for the DB mode), checks them, potentially updates them, and that's that — if at this moment the application quits and immediately runs again without the init code, it would work just as well. But for the objects in the shared EC, there's no EO which the init code would create/fetch and a later session-based code would use anyhow. I might switch off the SEC for the initialisation completely: I would run the init code using an EC with its SEC explicitly set to null, then somehow trash the init EO stack completely and start afresh with a new one (or ones with OSCPool) and normal session-based processing. Can this, i.e., - to begin without OSCPool and connecting to DB in the “isolation=serializable/locking=pessimistic” mode; - do some stuff (without SEC), save changes; - completely trash the EO stack; - create a new one with OSCPool connecting to DB in the “isolation=read_committed/locking=optimistic” mode with SEC, and run happily ever after be done in some cleaner way than, well, restarting the application — which with some trickery exploiting Auto Recover in JavaMonitor might even prove possible, but would be super-ugly and I would rather do without? Thanks, OC On 22 Aug 2018, at 5:11 AM, Chuck Hill <chill@gevityinc.com<mailto:chill@gevityinc.com>> wrote: That is a good question. I’ve not used the combination. There must be some code that uses the default instead of getting the SEC from the EOEditingContext. There is a lot of code in Wonder (and some in WO) that assumes the defaultWhatever is the only one that will ever exist. You would have to step into the code to see where this is happening, or enable the logging of stack traces of fetches. It should be a simple fix once you find the spot. Chuck From: "ocs@ocs" <ocs@ocs.cz<mailto:ocs@ocs.cz>> Date: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 1:02 PM To: Chuck Hill <chill@gevityinc.com<mailto:chill@gevityinc.com>> Cc: "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com<mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>" <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com<mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> Subject: Re: Should ERXEC get sharedEC automagically? Indeed! If I switch off the OSCPool, it starts to work properly. Thanks just again! Nevertheless, I still must be missing something of grave importance, for with OCSPool (I use ), I would presume the SEC for the pool being currently used by the ERXEC would load the shared objects? It does not: the global one does automatically load the shared objects, but the SEC-based one of ERXEC remains empty. Note: the code in question does not run in a session context; it is performed at launch, before the first session is created. Might that be important perhaps? All the best, OC On 21 Aug 2018, at 9:42 PM, Chuck Hill <chill@gevityinc.com<mailto:chill@gevityinc.com>> wrote: Are you using the ERXObjectStoreCoordinatorPool? It keeps one SEC per pool, not one shared globally. EOSharedEditingContext.defaultSharedEditingContext() is the global one. Chuck From: "ocs@ocs" <ocs@ocs.cz<mailto:ocs@ocs.cz>> Date: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 12:23 PM To: Chuck Hill <chill@gevityinc.com<mailto:chill@gevityinc.com>> Cc: "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com<mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>" <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com<mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> Subject: Re: Should ERXEC get sharedEC automagically? P.S. It seems ERX completely ignores the default shared EC, using its own one. If I try e.g., this: === println "The default sharedEC is ${EOSharedEditingContext.defaultSharedEditingContext()}" 6.times { def e=ERXEC.newEditingContext() println "EC $e gets sec $e.sharedEditingContext" } println "The default sharedEC still is ${EOSharedEditingContext.defaultSharedEditingContext()}" === it looks like this: === The default sharedEC is com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOSharedEditingContext@26bbe604 2005 [main] INFO er.extensions.eof.ERXObjectStoreCoordinatorPool - initializing Pool... 2008 [main] INFO er.extensions.eof.ERXObjectStoreCoordinatorPool - initializing Pool finished EC er.extensions.eof.ERXEC@40e32762 gets sec com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOSharedEditingContext@5875de6a EC er.extensions.eof.ERXEC@7d78f3d5 gets sec com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOSharedEditingContext@5875de6a EC er.extensions.eof.ERXEC@f5b6e78 gets sec com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOSharedEditingContext@5875de6a EC er.extensions.eof.ERXEC@71926a36 gets sec com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOSharedEditingContext@5875de6a EC er.extensions.eof.ERXEC@48976e6d gets sec com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOSharedEditingContext@5875de6a EC er.extensions.eof.ERXEC@7f6874f2 gets sec com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOSharedEditingContext@5875de6a The default sharedEC still is com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOSharedEditingContext@26bbe604 === Thanks and all the best, OC On 21 Aug 2018, at 9:07 PM, ocs@ocs <ocs@ocs.cz<mailto:ocs@ocs.cz>> wrote: Chuck, sorry, I did not describe the problem clearly enough... On 21 Aug 2018, at 8:39 PM, Chuck Hill <chill@gevityinc.com<mailto:chill@gevityinc.com>> wrote: Once an EC has objects in it, its shared EC won’t get changed if a new default is set. The notification is ignored. Quite, but that's not the problem. With EOEditingContext, it works like this: (i) ec created, has no sharedEC (ec.sharedEditingContext==null) (ii) (due to something which creates a DBContext, I believe) the default sharedEC is initialized; it loads the shared objects, and sends the notification (iii) ec observes the notification, and sets the default sharedEC as its own sharedEC (for it is still empty) (iv) now, ec fetches the objects — automatically giving shared ones from its sharedEC, which does contain them With ERXEC (and ERXEC.useSharedEditingContext=true), there's an important difference: (i) erxec created, immediately gets a sharedEC (ec.sharedEditingContext!=null). This sharedEC differs from the default shared EC (ii) (due to something which creates a DBContext, I believe) the default sharedEC is initialized; it loads the shared objects, and sends the notification (iii) erxec (although still empty) does nothing, it already has a sharedEC, different from the default one (iv) now, erxec fetches the objects — would automatically give shared ones from its sharedEC, which, alas, contains nothing (the default one does). Thanks and all the best, OC From: "ocs@ocs" <ocs@ocs.cz<mailto:ocs@ocs.cz>> Date: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 11:21 AM To: Chuck Hill <chill@gevityinc.com<mailto:chill@gevityinc.com>> Cc: "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com<mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>" <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com<mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> Subject: Re: Should ERXEC get sharedEC automagically? Chuck, On 21 Aug 2018, at 7:50 PM, Chuck Hill <chill@gevityinc.com<mailto:chill@gevityinc.com>> wrote: See er.extensions.ERXEC.useSharedEditingContext at https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Explanation+of+the+defaul... Thanks a lot! (Why on earth don't they mention this on the ERXEC documentation page? Oh, never mind.) Did that fix it? Well, sort of. It gets curiouser and curiouser — in other words, I must be doing something far wrong. When I set the “ERXEC.useSharedEditingContext” property to true, then - the newly created ERXEC gets a shared editing context immediately upon creation, not later upon receiving DefaultSharedEditingContextWasInitializedNotification; - and it is a different shared EC instance, not EOSharedEditingContext.defaultSharedEditingContext() - but it is EOSharedEditingContext.defaultSharedEditingContext() who reads in automatically all the shared EOs - and therefore, when fetching EOs through the ERXEC, I am still getting non-shared ones in the ERXEC (for its own sharedEC is empty, and thus EOSharedEditingContext.defaultSharedEditingContext is ignored). Can you make any sense of that? Thanks again a very big lot, OC On 2018-08-21, 9:43 AM, "Webobjects-dev on behalf of ocs@ocs" <webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc.com@lists.apple.com<mailto:webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc.com@lists.apple.com> on behalf of ocs@ocs.cz<mailto:ocs@ocs.cz>> wrote: Hi there, the EOEditing context doc pretty unequivocally says === By default, an editing context that has no shared editing context listens for DefaultSharedEditingContextWasInitializedNotifications. If a notification is posted while the context has no registered objects, the editing context sets its shared editing context to the newly initialized default shared editing context. === Should it apply for an ERXEC, too? I sort of inferred it would, but by my testing, it does not seem so: an ERXEC I make (through ERXEC.newEditingContext()) seems to adamantly stay without sharedEditingContext, although the notification is posted all right (I have observed it myself to be sure), and if there's a good ole EOEditingContext, it indeed duly sets its sharedEC at the time. Have I missed something of importance somewhere? The ERXEC documentation does not say essentially anything of the sharedEC, far as I can say: http://wonder.sourceforge.net/javadoc/er/extensions/ERXEC.html In principle, I could work around the problem by setting the sharedEC to all my ERXECs programmatically -- that works all right --, but it would be a lot of work, with a danger I overlook something somewhere and got bit in the tender parts by that... Thanks, OC _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. 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