Using CDE on HP-UX
Using CDE on HP-UX
- Subject: Using CDE on HP-UX
- From: "Richard E. Hassler" <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 11:44:25 -0500
With the beta of X11 from Apple I would run the command line:
/usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -once -query 140.254.xxx.xx
(It took me 2 months of hunting and digging and asking questions on
various web sites to figure this out).
This would start up the X11 login window (CDE) on my HP-UX (10.20) box.
This still seems to do the same as it used to but I am not getting
all the new features promised in the X.3/X11 1.0.
The cursor doesn't automatically go to the user login name in CDE,
you have to click in the box first (same as beta).
When I start up a terminal session (on the server?) it opens the
terminal window bar behind the CDE menu bar. There is a tiny bit of
the terminal window bar peeking out that you can grab and move it
down (same as beta).
There is an Apple, X, sound and date icons now in the window bar of
CDE which wasn't there in the beta version. When you click on the X
you get Services, Hide X, Hide Others and Quit X. If I select Hide X
it doesn't hide the CDE window stuff but does bring the finder window
stuff up. When you click on Show All you can access the CDE window
stuff that isn't hidden behind any thing else but it won't come to
the foreground. If I have one terminal window open in CDE I can't
get it to come to the foreground by clicking on it (same as beta),
but if I can see the window bar of the terminal window, click on it
and move the terminal window slightly then it will come to the
foreground. If there is more than one terminal window open in CDE
and I click on one of them it will come to the foreground (same as
beta).
When I use Expose to bring the CDE window to the foreground the
selections at the bottom of the CDE window do not display but if you
keep clicking at various locations at the bottom of the CDE window
various things will happen so the menu box is still there but you
just can't see it.
Copy and paste doesn't happen with this setup, something I was really
looking forward to.
If your password expires on the HP-UX machine, X11 will open another
window in the top left like it is going into the set new password
dialog but the window is blank and you cannot change your password.
As a work around I access the terminal on the Mac and telnet into the
HP-UX computer and then when the same user tries to login it lets him
change his password. Then we get out of telnet and back into X11 and
the person can login with the new password.
Under OS 9.2 using Mac X most of this stuff worked great. You could
even resize the CDE window (you can't resize now under either beta
or 1.0, it fills the whole screen) so that you could see the finder
around the outside of the CDE window.
So far it looks like a step backwards and this is very important to
us. I haven't tried the beta version under X.3 but if it works like
it did under X.2 then I will have to stick to it even though you
could never hide the CDE window (same as 1.0) so once open it was
always in the background when using other applications.
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