Re: X Window Manager
Re: X Window Manager
- Subject: Re: X Window Manager
- From: Don MacQueen <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 07:39:09 -0700
At 10:07 AM -0500 4/3/04, John J. Francini wrote:
Actually, I think that most people responding here have missed the
point of what the original poster is asking.
I believe that what he's looking for is something the Mac can't give
him -- the ability to "beam" a full CDE session (or equivalent),
starting with the original login box, from the Mac to a PC.
We used to do this where I worked at one time, "beaming" the full
CDE sessions (login box with |d|i|g|i|t|a|l| logo, root window,
window manager, application windows) from our DEC Alphas running
either Tru64 UNIX or OpenVMS to PCs running eXceed. It was as if
you were working directly on the remote system.
I used to do this with MacX. I ran OpenWindows on a Sun, with
everything displayed on my Mac. It was indeed as if I was working
directly on the remote system. I haven't been doing it this way since
I moved to OS X, but it may be possible.
If I can find some spare time I'll try it again; I'd start by
starting up my X win server (I use XFree86), with *no* window
manager, and no clients. In a separate session, using Terminal, I
would login to the remote host, set DISPLAY back to my Mac, and then
initiate openwin.
If my fuzzy brain is working correctly, the Xdmcp (display manager
control protocol) is used to do this.
He's not going to get that. Why? Simply because the Mac's native
windowing environment isn't X Window based.
X11 on Mac is an adjunct to allow X-based applications running
locally or elsewhere to display on a Mac screen. Xdmcp is not
available, at least "out of the box". Individual X11 apps can
certainly be started on the Mac and beamed to his eXceed server, but
the whole enchilada? Nope. Not out of the box.
Now if he uses Fink to install KDE, GNOME, etc. on the Mac, it might
be possible to configure them for Xdmcp service, which would allow
him to beam a full KDE session, say, to his PC. However, that won't
give him access to Mac apps that use the native Quartz windowing
services.
About the closest he's going to get is with a VNC server --
something like Share My Desktop! from Mike Bombich
<http://www.bombich.com/>, in conjunction with a PC-based VNC
client. This will allow him to work with the entire primary Mac
display remotely.
Regards,
John Francini
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