Re: X11 and KDE [on top of OS X]
Re: X11 and KDE [on top of OS X]
- Subject: Re: X11 and KDE [on top of OS X]
- From: SA <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:47:28 +0100
Forgive my ignorance but doesn't this just install apple's x11 and then
overwrite it?
SA
On Monday 11 Apr 2005 21:18, Thomas 'Tom' R. Treadway III wrote:
> easiest if you don't remove Apple's X11, but build and install
> free86 over it.
>
> Should be able to do something like:
> move /usr/X11R6 to /usr/X11R6free86
> install AppleX11 and X11SDK
> restore /usr/X11R6free86 file to /usr/X11R6
> (not sure about /etc because I did option 1)
>
> Then you can use either Xquartz or XDarwin.
>
> You also should be able to extract Xquartz, and X11.app
> using Pacifist from the Panther Install.
>
> trt
>
> > John,
> >
> > Err no I haven't tried this - I couldn't get kde to install with
> > apple's X11
> > so I deleted this - no I don't have it. I would be willing to have a
> > go but
> > I don't know if I can (or how to) install apple's X11 alongside the
> > non-
> > apple one...
> >
> > Any advice?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > SA
> >
> >> Well, have you tried Apple's X11 but using kde instead of Apple's own
> >> window manager? This has been done before...
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> On Apr 11, 2005, at 13:25, SA wrote:
> >>> John,
> >>>
> >>> matlab - it segfaults (bus error) when using kde - mathworks say "use
> >>> apple's
> >>> X11". I think this is a well known problem - I have tried many
> >>> things
> >>> but
> >>> can't get it to work - my present solution is that since I am network
> >>> tied
> >>> due to the license manager being on a remote machine I run matlab on
> >>> a
> >>> remote
> >>> (non mac) machine. One day I'll be mobile and it will just have to
> >>> be
> >>> octave
> >>> instead...
> >>>
> >>> I have previously had it working with apple's X11 under aqua and by
> >>> exporting
> >>> the display to another machine, since the new X11 it just segfaults
> >>> right
> >>> after the X11 splash screen.
> >>>
> >>> Here is the complaint:
> >>>
> >>> ^[]0;Matlab R13: matt@mogadon^G
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> --
> >>> -
> >>> Bus error detected at Mon Apr 11 18:17:43 2005
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> --
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>> Configuration:
> >>> MATLAB Version: 7.0.0.19901 (R14)
> >>> Operating System: Darwin 7.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 7.8.0: Wed Dec
> >>> 22
> >>> 14:26:17 PST 2004; root:xnu/xnu-517.11.1.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power
> >>> Macintosh
> >>> Window System: The XFree86 Project, Inc (40399016), display
> >>> mogadon:0.0
> >>> Current Visual: 0x22 (class 4, depth 24)
> >>> Virtual Machine: Java is not enabled
> >>> Default Charset: US-ASCII
> >>>
> >>> r0 = 012d53f4 r8 = 00000041 r16 = 00000000 r24 = bfffe5d0
> >>> r1 = bfffe3f0 r9 = 00000018 r17 = 00000000 r25 = bffff620
> >>> r2 = 00000000 r10 = 00000018 r18 = 00000000 r26 = 004c0108
> >>> r3 = 00001f02 r11 = 012ea27c r19 = 00000000 r27 = 00000000
> >>> r4 = 02326530 r12 = 90c347ac r20 = 00000000 r28 = a0c30004
> >>> r5 = 00000000 r13 = 00000000 r21 = 00000000 r29 = 00001f02
> >>> r6 = bfffe0e0 r14 = 00000000 r22 = 00000000 r30 = bfffe3f0
> >>> r7 = 0000004d r15 = 00000000 r23 = bfffe6a0 r31 = 90c347b4
> >>> cr = 44004212 lr = 90c347b4 xer = 00000004 ctr = 90c347ac
> >>> vrsave = 00000000
> >>> Stack Trace:
> >>> [0] libGL.dylib:0x90c347d8
> >>> [1] glren.dylib:glren::GLRenderEngine::initOpenGLVersionInfo() + 36
> >>> bytes
> >>> [2] glren.dylib:OpenGLBootstrapOpengl() + 148 bytes
> >>> [3] glren.dylib:OpenGLGetData + 32 bytes
> >>> [4] libmwhg.dylib:setupRendererEnumStr + 136 bytes
> >>> [5] libmwhg.dylib:hgInitialize + 84 bytes
> >>> [6]
> >>> libmwmcr.dylib:mcrGlobalOptionsInternal::
> >>> mcr_initialize0(MfileReader*,
> >>> bool) + 1248 bytes
> >>> [7]
> >>> libmwmcr.dylib:mcrGlobalOptionsInternal::mcr_initialize(MfileReader*,
> >>> bool) + 96 bytes
> >>> [8] libmwmcr.dylib:mcrInstance::mcrInstance[unified](mcrOptions&,
> >>> MfileReader*) + 412 bytes
> >>> [9] MATLAB:mcrMain(int, char**) + 264 bytes
> >>> [10] MATLAB:main + 240 bytes
> >>> [11] MATLAB:_start + 392 bytes
> >>> [12] MATLAB:start + 48 bytes
> >>> MATLAB program terminated.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I am shortly going to try a newer release I'll post the results...
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> SA
> >>>
> >>> On Monday 11 Apr 2005 14:22, you wrote:
> >>>> I'm glad you enjoy the "non-dogmatic" free-for-all that is the case
> >>>> with KDE/Gnome/random X11 apps.
> >>>
> >>> if only there was a 3 button mouse and proper "focus follows mouse"
> >>> option I
> >>> might be able to adapt but 10 years of X11 is hard to forget...
> >>>
> >>>> There is no way to make a native Mac app run under X. There's no
> >>>> such
> >>>> thing as 'redirecting the display' of native Mac apps. Unfortunate,
> >>>> but
> >>>> true.
> >>>
> >>> Shame I agree a real missed trick.
> >>>
> >>>> As to MATLAB -- how does it fail to work? Can you give us some
> >>>> error
> >>>> messages or other details? What platform are you running it on?
> >>>>
> >>>> John Francini
> >>>>
> >>>> On Apr 11, 2005, at 6:19, SA wrote:
> >>>>> Yes - I do this -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It actually took quite a look of trial and error but here is what I
> >>>>> have and
> >>>>> here is how I did it:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I haven't replaced aqua with KDE but I have both running on
> >>>>> different
> >>>>> virtual
> >>>>> screens, when in aqua I can switch to X by clicking the X11 icon
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> when in
> >>>>> KDE I can switch to aqua with a hot key combination apple-cntl-a I
> >>>>> think.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> KDE works very nicely and it is relaxing to do away with the
> >>>>> dogmatic
> >>>>> interface that aqua insists on.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I used fink to install KDE but I had a great deal of trouble doing
> >>>>> this while
> >>>>> apple's X11 was installed so I had to delete this first (drag the
> >>>>> relevant
> >>>>> X11 directories to the waste bin and empty it!). Then I used fink
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> install
> >>>>> one of the alternative X11s and then KDE and a whole lot of other
> >>>>> stuff.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The aqua+KDE solution is pretty good all the mac apps still run in
> >>>>> aqua
> >>>>> because they don't seem to be X-aware (does anyone know how to make
> >>>>> an
> >>>>> aqua
> >>>>> app redirect its display?) so I can still use my digital camera
> >>>>> etc.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The only problem I have now is that I cannot run matlab properly
> >>>>> (matlab will
> >>>>> run provided the DISPLAY is pointed at any machine but my mac but
> >>>>> will
> >>>>> not
> >>>>> run at all using the X11 I have - this is ridiculous (mathworks
> >>>>> please
> >>>>> note)). Anyone know a solution?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> SA
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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