Re: Three intermittent, annoying X11 problems
Re: Three intermittent, annoying X11 problems
- Subject: Re: Three intermittent, annoying X11 problems
- From: robert delius royar <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 10:34:34 -0400
- Organization: An Apple OS X end user
- Priority: normal
Wed, 5 Jul 2006 (19:42 -0700 UTC) Bob Portmann wrote:
--- Mike Zuhl <email@hidden> wrote:
Maybe someone has seen these problems and can give me a clue. They
happen intermittently and I have been unsuccessful at forcing them
to happen. (BTW, I'm running X11 1.1 - XFree86 4.4.0, OS X 10.4.6,
on a PPC mini. I use X11 constantly so it may be running for days.)
[...]
3) "Windows Banished to the Void." This is by far the most annoying.
I'll have a number of X11 windows minimized and I'm using Mac apps.
Then I want to restore an X11 window and find them all missing from
the doc. They still show up on X11's "Window" menu, but selecting them
there won't make them restore, either. New X11 windows, started either
by the "Applications" menu or fired off from another host do show up
normally. Running "xwininfo" from the command line (on the Mac or any
connected host) shows that the windows and all their information is
still there. So far I have found no way to get the windows back.
Note that *all* the existing windows are gone. I know that some
of them were minimized, but I can't be sure that there weren't
non-minimized windows that followed their brethren to the Void.
Last time this happened (yesterday) I went in and killed quartz-wm,
the window manager. As with other X-servers, when the window manager
died all of the hidden windows appeared on the screen without the
window manager decorations. Then X11 exited, probably because the
the window manager was gone.
I think I've seen something like this but it has been rare and just
seemed to me to be x11 or more likely quartz-wm crashing. It's been
infrequent enough that I didn't worry about it.
Whenever something kills the dock, for example, a software update that
updates a program with a permanent icon in the dock, I see this
behavior. I also see it on the rare occasions when the dock crashes.
Note, I use fspanel, and when the programs disappear this way, they
cannot be revived via it. I seem to remember that switching to rooted
mode allows fspanel to pull up the windows, but that may be a faulty
memory.
Bob
Any thoughts?
--Mike Zuhl
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