Re: Focus follows mouse - X11 vs. aqua apps
Re: Focus follows mouse - X11 vs. aqua apps
- Subject: Re: Focus follows mouse - X11 vs. aqua apps
- From: Steven Langer <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:03:05 -0700
I use CodeTek virtual desktop on a G5 running 10.3. It has a
focus-follows-mouse feature that applies to normal OSX apps and X11
windows. I tried that for a bit, but the normal Mac apps (aqua, carbon,
cocoa, whatever) became hard to work with. By the time my mouse reached
the Menu bar, the window I wanted to work with had almost always lost
the focus. I turned that feature off and edited the X11 plist file as
described near the start of this thread to get focus-follows-mouse for
X11 windows only.
One of the messages commented that focus-follows-mouse didn't apply to
emacs. That sounds like the user has installed one of the native OSX
ports of emacs. aquamacs is an example and I have tried a couple of
others over the years. Focus-follows-mouse works with the X11 based
emacs I installed using Fink.
When offered a choice between a native OSX app and an X11 port of the
app, I decide by picking the one that is the same type as the other apps
I want to use it with. For example, I use emacs to edit files I plan to
read with X11 apps, so I use an X11 version of emacs.
Steve Langer
LLNL
(NOTE: I am not the Stephen Langer at NIST who made some comments
earlier in this thread. The name coincidence probably has some deep
cosmic significance, but I am not sure what it might be!)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:53:37 -0700
From: Rich Cook <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: LyX under X11 behaviour
To: Stephen Langer <email@hidden>
Cc: email@hidden
Message-ID: <email@hidden>
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On Jul 13, 2007, at 11:50 AM, Stephen Langer wrote:
On Jul 13, 2007, at 2:31 PM, Rich Cook wrote:
I suggest you compile the X11 version of Lyx and run that under
X11. Then you will get the desired behavior.
There is no "focus follows mouse" for non-X11 apps.
You can turn it on for Terminal, with
defaults write com.apple.Terminal AutoFocus -bool True
(I think). Then you get focus-follows-mouse between X11 apps and
Terminal, or between Terminal windows. Focus-follows-mouse
doesn't work for arbitrary Aqua apps because then there'd be no way
to move the mouse to the menu bar without accidentally switching apps.
I don't follow you. So what if you switch apps, that's the idea of
"focus follows mouse," right? I don't see that being a show-stopper
for Aqua. I think Apple has just as usual decided we "don't need
that feature." That's the downside of Apple. I'm experiencing lots
of "Apple doesn't think I need that" with my new iPhone too. :-|
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