Re: copy and paste between Aqua and X11 applications?
Re: copy and paste between Aqua and X11 applications?
- Subject: Re: copy and paste between Aqua and X11 applications?
- From: "Adam D. I. Kramer" <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:43:18 -0700 (PDT)
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007, Vernon Williams wrote:
This whole thing has me curious.
Me, too...
As a programmer, I use X11 only for Nedit, which I consider to be a really
nice programmer's editor that does virtually everything I want right out
of the box, without needing any real customization (except for a little
syntax coloring tweaking).
Due to using lots of computers in different locations, I've come to rely
pretty heavily on the "screen" program. I run several email and messaging
clients in "screen," which I run in X11 when on the mac (and in X when on
linux boxes). Copying URLs out of email and IM is thus an item of concern.
And for me, copy and paste between Nedit and Aqua apps works perfectly and
has done so since the X11 beta several years ago.
For me, it did not work reliably in the beta, and never has worked.
I seem to recall there may have been occasional problems with X11 beta
where nothing happened in one direction, but they seemed to disappear with
the first real X11.
That is, I can select some text in Nedit, copy it (Ctrl-C), then click in
some Aqua app, like TextEdit or Terminal, do paste (Command-V) into the
app perfectly.
This works for me, but only sometimes. Other times, nothing is pasted, or
the previous content of the clipboard is pasted.
Or vice versely, I can select some text in Terminal or TextEdit, copy it
(Command-C), click in Nedit, and paste it perfectly in there (Ctrl-V).
This always works for me...though I almost always use middle-click to paste.
I've never had a problem in this direction.
Of course, you can't just select some text (without copying it) in Nedit
and expect to middle-button paste it into an Aqua app, which would be
nice, but which I would never in a million years expect, being a very X11
type of thing.
Yes, and I appreciate Apple's decision to NOT have select-to-copy across the
entire MacOS. I select things often while reading them, and rarely want to
copy them...and would be frustrated if my clipboard were overwritten by a
mis-click.
So, precisely what else might someone want this to do?
I have no idea. :)
Or is it an application specific problem, where some X11 apps, like
Nedit, do things right, but others don't?
My experience is almost entirely with xterm, though the problem has also
occurred with xpdf and firefox.
A lot of the talk here has centered on emacs (and its various versions). I
have never used emacs in any form (seems very powerful and very
customizable, but for me, Nedit does everything I want, very simply,
without the need for vast customization, and between Nedit, Terminal, and
a bunch of my own UNIX utilities, I can easily do everything I want).
I do almost all my writing, be it coding or emailing or writing TeX
documents, in the "joe" editor running in an xterm. While I appreciate the
flexibility of elisp, joe is enough for me.
But I do seem to recall (perhaps from this list) that emacs has multiple
paste buffers. If so, the problems might reside there, with maybe Aqua
using the wrong one. Just a thought.
A good thought, but not one that relates to my problem as I do not use
emacs.
--Adam
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