Re: copy and paste between Aqua and X11 applications?
Re: copy and paste between Aqua and X11 applications?
- Subject: Re: copy and paste between Aqua and X11 applications?
- From: Michael Reilly <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:54:15 -0700
Martin Costabel wrote:
> Michael Reilly wrote:
> []
>
>>>> I've stopped thinking about this. In fact I end up using the middle
>>>> mouse button to paste in Terminal.app also.
>> Middle mouse paste is the X11 standard - always has been. But it
>> doesn't always
>> work. Instead some UI designer decided it was better to drop the
>> mouse, hit an
>> obscure keyboard combination (I don't see a connection between a 'V'
>> and the
>> word paste) and then move you hand back to the mouse. I can't think
>> of a worse
>> UI implementation.
>
> While I am angry at Apple for their bad integration between X11 and
> Aqua, I don't agree with you here.
The real reason I am upset with Apple is that I would prefer to use my MAC as
would others I work with. However Apple has prevented us from doing so by not
allowing the UI to be tailored by each user to their personal preference. A
computer is a tool. As such it should work the way I want it to work (within
reason), not force me to change the way I work because someone else has decided
they know the "one true way" to interact with a computer.
> Using the mouse and the keyboard
> together for copying is a question of taste and of habit. In any case,
> Apple's Command-X/C/V for cut/copy/paste has been around since the first
> Mac in 1984,
Time they modernized it - isn't it? No reason it cannot be configurable to meet
the user's requirements 13 years later.
> which is at least as old as the first versions of "the X
> window system" (X11 came a couple of years later).
I didn't want to go back that far but I do recall working with "X10" as it was
known to many people.
> I remember quite well
> some SUN shell windows under X11 from not too long ago where you had to
> activate a deeply nested menu with the mouse in order to choose
> cut/copy/paste.
It took SUN a L O N G time to support X11 on their boxes. They had their own
way and X11 was just a passing fad to them. Same for Digital Equipment (DEC)
and their Vax graphical UI. I do note that DEC went down with their
inflexibility while SUN is a minor player now.
michael
> Much worse than Apple's keyboard shortcuts that only
> give you cramps for the first couple of days ;-)
>
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