Re: X11 and Xquartz removal
Re: X11 and Xquartz removal
- Subject: Re: X11 and Xquartz removal
- From: Ken Springer <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:28:11 -0700
- X_cmae_category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined
Interspersed reply...
On 11/16/11 10:51 AM, ~suv wrote:
On 16/11/11 18:28, Jamie Kennea wrote:
On Nov 16, 2011, at 11:30 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
The suggestion from the GimpOnMac people is to completely, totally, remove both programs.
>>> Not just drag the apps from the Applications folder to the trash,
but remove every last trace of
bothprograms from my computer, and then install only X11 from my Snow
Leopard DVD.
That's terrible advice. By all means remove XQuartz, but removing the system X11 as well? Mad.
Terrible advice? AFAIU it is mainly due to lack of resources (a single
person building all the packages and providing support for using 'GIMP
on OS X' on Tiger, Leopard and Snow Leopard).
Too many users curious to test GIMP on a Mac follow some random tip
found on the web and end up with broken X11 and Xquartz installations
(i.e. often times X11 nor Xquartz work any more even when trying to
launch either of them by itself).
I'd say, not just a single tip, but a number of conflicting tips, and
given my lack of X11 knowledge, the tips are probably incomplete. And
example *might* be someone writing a tip that says to do such and such
in OS X. But, the tip applied to Tiger, when it was new and current,
but doesn't apply to Leopard and/or Snow Leopard. Not that the tip is
wrong, there is just know way to know which version of OS X the tip
applies to.
Unfortunately Ken didn't provide any links to the related
recommendations -
I didn't expect such a discussion! LOL Most of which is over my head.
:: grin :: If it had occurred to me this discussion would come about,
I would have posted what I had read.
I'd refer you to
<http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimponosx/forums/forum/761055/topic/4509200>
(comment at the bottom)
Read this before I came here. :-)
<http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimponosx/forums/forum/761056/topic/4506922>
Read this before I came here. :-)
and many other, similar questions in the support forum at
<http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimponosx/forums/forum/761056>
As I write this, the first thread listed in the forum is "GIMP 2.6.11
will not run under 10.6.8", and I am Masonbogie. :-)
Have you tried installed Gimp using Macports? I'd recommend that, it plays well with Xquartz also.
I first tried to get Gimp to run on my Mac over a year ago. At that
time, it was simply the desire to have an open source image editing
program installed. I had no need or reason to use this kind of software
at the time. FWIW, I couldn't get Gimp to run under a fresh clean
install of Win7 Home Premium either.
But I do have a reason/need for an image editing program now, albeit simple.
During the first attempt(s) at getting Gimp to run back then, I looked
at both Macports and Fink. And all of the command line work necessary
is not what I want to attempt or do. 20 years or so ago, I'd have
jumped right on that. But these days, I have less than zero interest in
tackling that type of computer ........ is task a good word? It simply
does not interest me any more.
I just want to install the software, and then be able to use it. Rather
like saying "I'll put the new engine in the car, but I don't want to
build the engine first." LOL
Heck, if I wanted to fiddle and twiddle with something computer all the
time, I'd still be using Windows. No, Mac's are not perfect, but this
Mac has caused a lot less problems than Windows ever did for me.
Now, I'm not complaining, I'm sure a lot of people have learned a couple
new things with this, but my question hasn't been answered. :-)
I'm not interested in trying to fix what's installed, I'm interested in
removing everything and starting from scratch. :-)
How do I do that?
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Ken Springer
"All progress depends upon the unreasonable person."
George Bernard Shaw
"Cheap prices make for cheap goods; cheap goods make for
cheap men; and cheap men make for a cheap country!"
President William McKinley
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