Re: X11 and Xquartz removal
Re: X11 and Xquartz removal
- Subject: Re: X11 and Xquartz removal
- From: "Daniel ." <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 18:40:06 -0500
It seems to me you must have some other issues going on on your Mac (what, I wouldn't venture to say), owing to the fact that I have GIMP installed and running on the last three (intel) Mac OSes using XQuartz and SL and Lion have Apple's X11 side-by-side with XQuartz too.
On Nov 16, 2011, at 5:28PM, Ken Springer wrote:
> Interspersed reply...
>
> On 11/16/11 10:51 AM, ~suv wrote:
>> On 16/11/11 18:28, Jamie Kennea wrote:
>>> On Nov 16, 2011, at 11:30 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
>>>
>>>> The suggestion from the GimpOnMac people is to completely, totally, remove both programs.
> >>> Not just drag the apps from the Applications folder to the trash, but remove every last trace of
>>>> bothprograms from my computer, and then install only X11 from my Snow
> Leopard DVD.
>>>
>>> That's terrible advice. By all means remove XQuartz, but removing the system X11 as well? Mad.
>>
>> Terrible advice? AFAIU it is mainly due to lack of resources (a single
>> person building all the packages and providing support for using 'GIMP
>> on OS X' on Tiger, Leopard and Snow Leopard).
>>
>> Too many users curious to test GIMP on a Mac follow some random tip
>> found on the web and end up with broken X11 and Xquartz installations
>> (i.e. often times X11 nor Xquartz work any more even when trying to
>> launch either of them by itself).
>
> I'd say, not just a single tip, but a number of conflicting tips, and given my lack of X11 knowledge, the tips are probably incomplete. And example *might* be someone writing a tip that says to do such and such in OS X. But, the tip applied to Tiger, when it was new and current, but doesn't apply to Leopard and/or Snow Leopard. Not that the tip is wrong, there is just know way to know which version of OS X the tip applies to.
>
>> Unfortunately Ken didn't provide any links to the related
>> recommendations -
>
> I didn't expect such a discussion! LOL Most of which is over my head. :: grin :: If it had occurred to me this discussion would come about, I would have posted what I had read.
>
>> I'd refer you to
>> <http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimponosx/forums/forum/761055/topic/4509200>
>> (comment at the bottom)
>
> Read this before I came here. :-)
>
>> <http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimponosx/forums/forum/761056/topic/4506922>
>
> Read this before I came here. :-)
>
>> and many other, similar questions in the support forum at
>> <http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimponosx/forums/forum/761056>
>
> As I write this, the first thread listed in the forum is "GIMP 2.6.11 will not run under 10.6.8", and I am Masonbogie. :-)
>
>>> Have you tried installed Gimp using Macports? I'd recommend that, it plays well with Xquartz also.
>
> I first tried to get Gimp to run on my Mac over a year ago. At that time, it was simply the desire to have an open source image editing program installed. I had no need or reason to use this kind of software at the time. FWIW, I couldn't get Gimp to run under a fresh clean install of Win7 Home Premium either.
>
> But I do have a reason/need for an image editing program now, albeit simple.
>
> During the first attempt(s) at getting Gimp to run back then, I looked at both Macports and Fink. And all of the command line work necessary is not what I want to attempt or do. 20 years or so ago, I'd have jumped right on that. But these days, I have less than zero interest in tackling that type of computer ........ is task a good word? It simply does not interest me any more.
>
> I just want to install the software, and then be able to use it. Rather like saying "I'll put the new engine in the car, but I don't want to build the engine first." LOL
>
> Heck, if I wanted to fiddle and twiddle with something computer all the time, I'd still be using Windows. No, Mac's are not perfect, but this Mac has caused a lot less problems than Windows ever did for me.
>
> Now, I'm not complaining, I'm sure a lot of people have learned a couple new things with this, but my question hasn't been answered. :-)
>
> I'm not interested in trying to fix what's installed, I'm interested in removing everything and starting from scratch. :-)
>
> How do I do that?
>
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Ken Springer
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