January 2006 - Bluetooth-dev

Re: Authentication Issue
by Framework Labs. 09 Jan '06

09 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi Alexander, well, I think you get the 100 points for this quick and logic reasoning. Thanks a lot marc On 2006-01-09, at 00:36, Alexander Traud wrote: Do I get 100 or zero points for this answer? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I don't know why I assumed that 'Bluetooth File Exchange' uses the File Transfer Service and not Object Push. kBluetoothSDPUUID16ServiceClassOBEXFileTransfer This is the FTP service. I bet in Apple's File Exchange application you are just using the Push service. To describe it different you select "Send a file" rather then "Browse device", don't you? I can send files to an unpaired device without the need of Authentication _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/information% 40frameworklabs.de This email sent to information(a)frameworklabs.de This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Authentication Issue
by Alexander Traud 08 Jan '06

08 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.6.8320 > kBluetoothSDPUUID16ServiceClassOBEXFileTransfer This is the FTP service. I bet in Apple's File Exchange application you are just using the Push service. To describe it different you select "Send a file" rather then "Browse device", don't you? > I can send files to an unpaired device without the need of Authentication Do I get 100 or zero points for this answer? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Authentication Issue
by Framework Labs. 08 Jan '06

08 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Authentication Issue
by Marco Pontil 08 Jan '06

08 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com Marc, On Jan 8, 2006, at 8:34 AM, Framework Labs. wrote: Cheers marc _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… The receiver of the file is the party that decides if authentication is needed or not. If you do not get a paring request when transferring a file is either because: 1] the receiver does not require it. 2] the receiver was previously paired with your mac (trough an eralier connection, or setup trough the setup assistant). When I use the 'Bluetooth File Exchange' application I can send files to an unpaired device without the need of Authentication (i.e. specifying a password on the external device to be retyped on OS X). How can I do the same by the standard Bluetooth APIs? I have tried several ways without success, i.e. I always end up with the authentication request. Is Apple using a special hidden API for it's 'Bluetooth File Exchange' or is there an official way to do the same? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/mpontil% 40apple.com This email sent to mpontil(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Authentication Issue
by Framework Labs. 08 Jan '06

08 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com Cheers marc _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… When I use the 'Bluetooth File Exchange' application I can send files to an unpaired device without the need of Authentication (i.e. specifying a password on the external device to be retyped on OS X). How can I do the same by the standard Bluetooth APIs? I have tried several ways without success, i.e. I always end up with the authentication request. Is Apple using a special hidden API for it's 'Bluetooth File Exchange' or is there an official way to do the same? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: -rfcommChannelData: behavior characteristics
by Marco Pontil 03 Jan '06

03 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com Marco _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… What happens if an application's main thread gets starved for any length of time while there's lots of incoming data on an RFCOMM channel? The flow control should take care of this and realize that the internal buffer is filling up and prevent the other side from sending data (hopefully the other side will respect the flow control). Will IOBluetooth grow its internal buffer to hold all the data and hand all of it off to the delegate when the thread processes its loop sources, or will I start to lose data? No, but flow control should take care of it. If packets are lost (we get it but there is no room to put them) an error is sent so at least the sender knows that the data is lost, but it should not happen. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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-rfcommChannelData: behavior characteristics
by Joseph Kelly 03 Jan '06

03 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thanks in advance, joe _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… What happens if an application's main thread gets starved for any length of time while there's lots of incoming data on an RFCOMM channel? Will IOBluetooth grow its internal buffer to hold all the data and hand all of it off to the delegate when the thread processes its loop sources, or will I start to lose data? Additionally, is there any general characteristics re: thread starvation and IOBluetooth that I should be aware of? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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