February 2013 - Bluetooth-dev

clearing Cached Peripheral Data/Seeing New UUID's
by Steve Childerley 09 Feb '13

09 Feb '13

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Re: iOS6 access to SMS, email, and call notifications using Bluetooth Smart / BLE
by Peter Sichel 08 Feb '13

08 Feb '13

On Feb 8, 2013, at 12:45 PM, "Ephram Cohen" <ecohen(a)soundid.com> wrote: > The BT qual for iOS 6.x (and others) are available > to the public. Here is a link to the Profile PICS > for (I am pretty sure) iPhone 5, iOS 6.x. > > https://www.bluetooth.org/tpg/showPICS.cfm?3A000A5 > A005C504D58585414403B0C0D0E2405022413010E57503F202 > A5A72 Thanks for the link. Curiously "Table 3: Supported features MSE" shows item Capability Spec Status Support 3c PushMessage 4.3 M Yes In other words, PushMessage is mandatory and support is claimed. But it cannot be used for sending as described in the MAP spec. Quote from web forum: Message Access Profile in iPhone 4 with iOS 6 "Now with ios6 it was working until I tried to send the text message, then it disconnected…. I've tried 3 models from Blackberry, a Motorolla and they all work very well in the car. I'm surprised sending is not allowed. I really expected better from Apple. - Peter _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: UUID
by Andras Kovi 08 Feb '13

08 Feb '13

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RE: iOS6 access to SMS, email, and call notifications using Bluetooth Smart / BLE
by Ephram Cohen 08 Feb '13

08 Feb '13

Sorry to follow up on my own message, but if all your iterested in the the MAP section, search for "Message Access Profile" That'll take you right there. Ephram > -----Original Message----- > From: bluetooth-dev- > bounces+ecohen=soundid.com(a)lists.apple.com > [mailto:bluetooth-dev- > bounces+ecohen=soundid.com(a)lists.apple.com] On > Behalf Of Ephram Cohen > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 9:46 AM > To: 'Peter Sichel'; bluetooth- > dev(a)lists.apple.com > Subject: RE: iOS6 access to SMS, email, and > call notifications using Bluetooth Smart / BLE > > The BT qual for iOS 6.x (and others) are > available > to the public. Here is a link to the Profile > PICS > for (I am pretty sure) iPhone 5, iOS 6.x. > > https://www.bluetooth.org/tpg/showPICS.cfm?3A0 > 00A5 > A005C504D58585414403B0C0D0E2405022413010E57503 > F202 > A5A72 > > In case that does not work, this should > > https://www.bluetooth.org/tpg/QLI_viewQDL.cfm? > qid= > 19960 > > click on Display PICS Details in the upper > right > corner. > > Ephram > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: bluetooth-dev- > > bounces+ecohen=soundid.com(a)lists.apple.com > > [mailto:bluetooth-dev- > > bounces+ecohen=soundid.com(a)lists.apple.com] > On > > Behalf Of Peter Sichel > > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 4:54 AM > > To: bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com Bluetooth > > Subject: Re: iOS6 access to SMS, email, and > > call notifications using Bluetooth Smart / > BLE > > > > Thanks for the response. I had reviewed > that > > thread as well. The only reference to not > > being able to send is user experience and > some > > notes on the Toyota web site concerning > their > > car kit. I'm hoping to find some official > > word from Apple regarding any limitations. > > > > As noted, the Bluetooth MAP specification is > > available here: > > > > > https://www.bluetooth.org/DocMan/handlers/Down > > loadDoc.ashx?doc_id=215400 > > > > Page 37 of the specification lists mandatory > > versus optional features. For an MSE device > > (such as the iPhone), the message uploading > > feature is mandatory. In my reading, Apple > > cannot claim conformance to Bluetooth MAP in > > iOS6 without supporting this feature, so > there > > should be some way to make this work. > > > > - Peter > > > > On Feb 8, 2013, at 2:03 AM, Andras Kovi > > <allprog(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Without understanding all detail, I > > remembered that there was a question about > > this recently. You may find the answer in > that > > thread too: > > > http://lists.apple.com/archives/bluetooth- > > dev/2012/Nov/msg00094.html > > > > > > As I understood from the little pieces of > > information scattered in documents, MAP > allows > > only receiving of notifications. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Andras > > > > > > On 2013.02.08., at 5:03, Peter Sichel > > <psichel(a)sustworks.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Hello, > > >> > > >> I'm the developer of Phone Amego which > > provides Mac to phone integration including > > iPhone via Bluetooth. > > >> > > >> I'm trying to add support for sending and > > receiving SMS using Bluetooth MAP in iOS6. > > >> I've gotten the receive side to work as > > follows: > > >> (1) Publish an SDP record indicating you > > support the MAP Message Notification Service > > (MNS). > > >> (2) On the iPhone, navigate to "Settings > - > > > Bluetooth", press the right arrow > > >> associated with the connected device and > > turn on "Show Notifications". > > >> (3) Following the MAP specification, > > establish a MAS (Message Access Service) > > >> session with the iPhone. > > >> (4) The iPhone will then open a MNS > > session to your server. > > >> (5) Receive notification for an incoming > > message including a message handle (MNS). > > >> (6) Request the message by handle using > > your MAS session. > > >> (7) Receive the requested message. > > >> > > >> All of the above works. When I try to > send > > a message by pushing it to the "outbox" > > >> per the MAP specification, I get an OBEX > > response code indicating "Service > Unavailable" > > >> > > >> Referring to Apple's Supported Bluetooth > > profiles page: > > >> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3647 It > > says: > > >> > > >> "Message Access Profile allows exchange > of > > messages between devices." > > >> > > >> There is no indication this is one-way > > only, so I expect to be able to send SMS > > >> as well as receive. Notice the response > > code did not say the request was improperly > > >> formed or failed some precondition. It > says > > "Service Unavailable". > > >> > > >> I've searched the links in this thread > and > > users of various car kits indicate > > >> this is not possible which seems rather > > lame and inconsistent with the Message > > >> Access Profile. > > >> > > >> SO MY QUESTION IS: > > >> (1) Is there's some problem in my code? > > >> (2) Is there's some setting I've missed? > > >> (3) Is sending SMS using Bluetooth MAP in > > iOS6 not supported? > > >> > > >> Any insight would be greatly appreciated. > > >> > > >> - Peter Sichel > > >> Sustainable Softworks > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > _ > > Do not post admin requests to the list. They > > will be ignored. > > Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth- > > dev(a)lists.apple.com) > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > > > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/blueto > > oth-dev/ecohen%40soundid.com > > > > This email sent to ecohen(a)soundid.com > > > ______________________________________________ > _ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They > will be ignored. > Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth- > dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/blueto > oth-dev/ecohen%40soundid.com > > This email sent to ecohen(a)soundid.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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RE: iOS6 access to SMS, email, and call notifications using Bluetooth Smart / BLE
by Ephram Cohen 08 Feb '13

08 Feb '13

The BT qual for iOS 6.x (and others) are available to the public. Here is a link to the Profile PICS for (I am pretty sure) iPhone 5, iOS 6.x. https://www.bluetooth.org/tpg/showPICS.cfm?3A000A5 A005C504D58585414403B0C0D0E2405022413010E57503F202 A5A72 In case that does not work, this should https://www.bluetooth.org/tpg/QLI_viewQDL.cfm?qid= 19960 click on Display PICS Details in the upper right corner. Ephram > -----Original Message----- > From: bluetooth-dev- > bounces+ecohen=soundid.com(a)lists.apple.com > [mailto:bluetooth-dev- > bounces+ecohen=soundid.com(a)lists.apple.com] On > Behalf Of Peter Sichel > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 4:54 AM > To: bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com Bluetooth > Subject: Re: iOS6 access to SMS, email, and > call notifications using Bluetooth Smart / BLE > > Thanks for the response. I had reviewed that > thread as well. The only reference to not > being able to send is user experience and some > notes on the Toyota web site concerning their > car kit. I'm hoping to find some official > word from Apple regarding any limitations. > > As noted, the Bluetooth MAP specification is > available here: > > https://www.bluetooth.org/DocMan/handlers/Down > loadDoc.ashx?doc_id=215400 > > Page 37 of the specification lists mandatory > versus optional features. For an MSE device > (such as the iPhone), the message uploading > feature is mandatory. In my reading, Apple > cannot claim conformance to Bluetooth MAP in > iOS6 without supporting this feature, so there > should be some way to make this work. > > - Peter > > On Feb 8, 2013, at 2:03 AM, Andras Kovi > <allprog(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Without understanding all detail, I > remembered that there was a question about > this recently. You may find the answer in that > thread too: > > http://lists.apple.com/archives/bluetooth- > dev/2012/Nov/msg00094.html > > > > As I understood from the little pieces of > information scattered in documents, MAP allows > only receiving of notifications. > > > > Regards, > > Andras > > > > On 2013.02.08., at 5:03, Peter Sichel > <psichel(a)sustworks.com> wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> I'm the developer of Phone Amego which > provides Mac to phone integration including > iPhone via Bluetooth. > >> > >> I'm trying to add support for sending and > receiving SMS using Bluetooth MAP in iOS6. > >> I've gotten the receive side to work as > follows: > >> (1) Publish an SDP record indicating you > support the MAP Message Notification Service > (MNS). > >> (2) On the iPhone, navigate to "Settings - > > Bluetooth", press the right arrow > >> associated with the connected device and > turn on "Show Notifications". > >> (3) Following the MAP specification, > establish a MAS (Message Access Service) > >> session with the iPhone. > >> (4) The iPhone will then open a MNS > session to your server. > >> (5) Receive notification for an incoming > message including a message handle (MNS). > >> (6) Request the message by handle using > your MAS session. > >> (7) Receive the requested message. > >> > >> All of the above works. When I try to send > a message by pushing it to the "outbox" > >> per the MAP specification, I get an OBEX > response code indicating "Service Unavailable" > >> > >> Referring to Apple's Supported Bluetooth > profiles page: > >> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3647 It > says: > >> > >> "Message Access Profile allows exchange of > messages between devices." > >> > >> There is no indication this is one-way > only, so I expect to be able to send SMS > >> as well as receive. Notice the response > code did not say the request was improperly > >> formed or failed some precondition. It says > "Service Unavailable". > >> > >> I've searched the links in this thread and > users of various car kits indicate > >> this is not possible which seems rather > lame and inconsistent with the Message > >> Access Profile. > >> > >> SO MY QUESTION IS: > >> (1) Is there's some problem in my code? > >> (2) Is there's some setting I've missed? > >> (3) Is sending SMS using Bluetooth MAP in > iOS6 not supported? > >> > >> Any insight would be greatly appreciated. > >> > >> - Peter Sichel > >> Sustainable Softworks > > > > ______________________________________________ > _ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They > will be ignored. > Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth- > dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/blueto > oth-dev/ecohen%40soundid.com > > This email sent to ecohen(a)soundid.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: UUID
by Davis Walker 08 Feb '13

08 Feb '13

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Re: iOS6 access to SMS, email, and call notifications using Bluetooth Smart / BLE
by Martijn The 08 Feb '13

08 Feb '13

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RE: A2DP with AAC codec: non-existent document reference in the "Bluetooth Accessory Design Guidelines for Apple Products"
by Shawn Steenhagen 08 Feb '13

08 Feb '13

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Re: UUID
by Etan Kissling 08 Feb '13

08 Feb '13

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Re: UUID
by Khaos Tian 08 Feb '13

08 Feb '13

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