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Sometimes my app will not connect to a bluetooth LE device until I do a network reset
by Raj Sathianarayanan 13 Jun '13

13 Jun '13

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Re: Don't get names during scanning on OS X, but do on iOS?
by Rick Mann 12 Jun '13

12 Jun '13

On Jun 12, 2013, at 00:51 , Etan Kissling <kissling(a)oberon.ch> wrote: > do you put the name in SCAN_RSP or in ADV_IND data? > Is there any difference if you put it in the other packet? I actually have no idea. It's a BLE112 device, and the API abstracts some of that stuff. I don't really know what kind of packets it's sending. > Do you observe that OS X uses active scanning (sends out SCAN_REQ packets) > with a Bluetooth sniffer? No idea. All I know is that the peripheral is the same for both iOS and OS X, that the iOS app works in the simulator (using the Cirago external dongle), but that my OS X app I wrote to just discover everything about a device doesn't see it; that code is the same as my iOS code, for the most part, but doesn't pass any specific services to scan for in the scan call. -- Rick _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Bluetooth LE App Submission Requirements
by Andras Kovi 12 Jun '13

12 Jun '13

It is the easiest for engineers at Apple to test your app with an actual device, but at the same time, I suppose, their priority is to ensure that your app will not behave badly under usual circumstances. Since you are in this special situation giving them a call/direct e-mails may be your best option before going crazy with finding alternatives. My 2 cents, Andras On 2013.06.12., at 21:03, Rick Mann <rmann(a)latencyzero.com> wrote: > > On Jun 12, 2013, at 06:36 , Stephen Jablonski <stevejabs(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> A.) I agree with Etan. Perhaps enterprise is the best route for you. It's really easy to have set up so long as you have all the proper business registrations. > > Yeah, I don't think that'll work for us. And, aren't the people to whom you distribute supposed to be affiliated with you? These are just customers. > >> B.) Since this doesn't pertain directly to iOS7 or anything that would be under NDA, during their Bluetooth session yesterday they said they want you to send in your devices with a well written description of exactly how they work. >> >> So my guess is that they are going to start getting much more strict about that requirement (a good one in my opinion.) And again, I would call them or email either of the three guys that gave yesterday's presentation (which is available on the developer portal now.) > > That just doesn't seem practical. Cars, for example, as was pointed out earlier. And our product is to expensive to just give away units. This isn't some fitbit or lost key dongle here. > > -- > Rick > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/allprog%40gmail.com > > This email sent to allprog(a)gmail.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Bluetooth LE App Submission Requirements
by Rick Mann 12 Jun '13

12 Jun '13

On Jun 12, 2013, at 06:36 , Stephen Jablonski <stevejabs(a)gmail.com> wrote: > A.) I agree with Etan. Perhaps enterprise is the best route for you. It's really easy to have set up so long as you have all the proper business registrations. Yeah, I don't think that'll work for us. And, aren't the people to whom you distribute supposed to be affiliated with you? These are just customers. > B.) Since this doesn't pertain directly to iOS7 or anything that would be under NDA, during their Bluetooth session yesterday they said they want you to send in your devices with a well written description of exactly how they work. > > So my guess is that they are going to start getting much more strict about that requirement (a good one in my opinion.) And again, I would call them or email either of the three guys that gave yesterday's presentation (which is available on the developer portal now.) That just doesn't seem practical. Cars, for example, as was pointed out earlier. And our product is to expensive to just give away units. This isn't some fitbit or lost key dongle here. -- Rick _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Bluetooth LE App Submission Requirements
by Stephen Jablonski 12 Jun '13

12 Jun '13

Just throwing one more response into the hat: A.) I agree with Etan. Perhaps enterprise is the best route for you. It's really easy to have set up so long as you have all the proper business registrations. B.) Since this doesn't pertain directly to iOS7 or anything that would be under NDA, during their Bluetooth session yesterday they said they want you to send in your devices with a well written description of exactly how they work. So my guess is that they are going to start getting much more strict about that requirement (a good one in my opinion.) And again, I would call them or email either of the three guys that gave yesterday's presentation (which is available on the developer portal now.) - Steve Jablonski > On Jun 12, 2013, at 4:00 AM, Etan Kissling <kissling(a)oberon.ch> wrote: > > Rick, > > if it's low-volume, you could also opt for enterprise deployment and skip the AppStore. > > We also had to send in hardware (you have to check iTunes connect manually as you don't get a notification > when they reply to you, and at some point it moves into "Meta-data rejected" when you don't react in time.). > > Etan > > > On 12.06.2013, at 00:24, Rick Mann <rmann(a)latencyzero.com> > wrote: > >> That's really not at all practical. >> >>> On Jun 11, 2013, at 14:58 , ming huang <minghuang81(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> One possibility is to build a simulator of your actual hardware with a cheap evaluation board (for example TI BLE EVM $50-$100). Only the interface needs to be simulated. Then you just send that simulator to Apple for your app review. >>> >>> The simulator can also be used by your app developers for unit tests if you are a large team, so it is not a wasted effort. >>> >>> Ming >>> >>>> Subject: Re: Bluetooth LE App Submission Requirements >>>> From: rmann(a)latencyzero.com >>>> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 14:37:20 -0700 >>>> To: stevejabs(a)gmail.com >>>> CC: bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jun 11, 2013, at 14:20 , Stephen Jablonski <stevejabs(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> From our conversation with them, and per what I said in my last response, they hold hardware for future updates. >>>> >>>> Yeah, our hardware retails for $4000, and we have very few units currently available. It's not really an option for us. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Rick >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>> Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) >>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/minghuang81%40hotmail… >>>> >>>> This email sent to minghuang81(a)hotmail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/rmann%40latencyzero.c… >>> >>> This email sent to rmann(a)latencyzero.com >> >> >> -- >> Rick >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/kissling%40oberon.ch >> >> This email sent to kissling(a)oberon.ch > > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/stevejabs%40gmail.com > > This email sent to stevejabs(a)gmail.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Bluetooth-dev mailing list (Bluetooth-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/bluetooth-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: multiple indications
by András Kövi 12 Jun '13

12 Jun '13

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Re: multiple indications
by Etan Kissling 12 Jun '13

12 Jun '13

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Re: multiple indications
by Etan Kissling 12 Jun '13

12 Jun '13

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Re: multiple indications
by András Kövi 12 Jun '13

12 Jun '13

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RE: multiple indications
by Steve Childerley 12 Jun '13

12 Jun '13

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