July 2012 - colorsync-users

Re: MultiProfiler question
by Armand Rosenberg 25 Jul '12

25 Jul '12

Thank you for the info, Andrew and Mark. So is there a better book-printing service you'd recommend? Where would I find an RGB profile I could use for (approximate??) "soft-proofing"? And if I may follow up to my first post: I'm still not clear on how I should set MultiProfiler. With the particular images I'm using, I'm not noticing much of a change when I switch between sRGB, Adobe RGB, and "bright" (or whatever it's called). The GUI elements and desktop change noticeably, but I don't notice any major shifts in the images themselves (as displayed by LR4). On the other hand, I can't do a side-by-side comparison. Thanks again for your answers. Armand

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Epson & Velvet Fine Art Linearization Fail
by Millers' Photography L.L.C 24 Jul '12

24 Jul '12

Epson & Velvet Fine Art Linearization Fail I would suggest Watercolor Radiant-White Let us know if this resolves the issue. Millers' Photography L.L.C. David B. Miller, Pharm D., member 3809 Alabama Street Bellingham, WA 98226-4585 360-739-2826 Sent from my MacBook Pro 17 inch

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MultiProfiler question
by Armand Rosenberg 24 Jul '12

24 Jul '12

Not a novice but no expert either... I am using LR4's Book module (OS X 10.6.8) and would like to ensure "accurate" color before I hit that "send to Blurb" button (since it's linked to my credit card). LR4 converts images to sRGB before sending them to Blurb. I am previewing my photos on an NEC PA271W monitor. Does it matter what setting I choose in MultiProfiler, such as sRGB, Adobe RGB, etc.?? I don't understand what effect (if any) these monitor settings would have in this case. I am used to profiling the more conventional monitors, but I don't recall such choices. It looks like Blurb also makes available an output profile "based on the GRACoL2009" for softproofing. Any tips for how to best set up the PA271W with MultiProfiler for this particular task? Thank you, Armand

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Re: Scanner Recommendations
by Louis Dina 24 Jul '12

24 Jul '12

Thanks for all of the great recommendations, folks. I'll have to do some research to figure out what I will do, but this is a great 'short list'. Looks like scanners have made a lot of progress since I last bought one. Best, Lou

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Epson & Velvet Fine Art Linearization Fail
by Martin Orpen 23 Jul '12

23 Jul '12

Reading Epson's marketing materials about how amazing their Velvet Fine Art Paper is (best D-Max ever etc), I find it really surprising that they don't offer any way to linearize their printers for this specific paper type. Both the Linearization tools and the SpectroProofer software for the x900 series printers are missing a Velvet Fine Art setting. The next best options for linearization are Smooth Fine Art and Textured Fine Art, but I cannot find any documentation regarding overrides to the paper and/or print settings for these paper types that would make them a better match to Velvet Fine Art. Anybody got any workarounds, or does nobody else bother with linearization for this stock (and all of the Hahnemühle papers that also recommend the Velvet Fine Art driver settings)? -- Martin Orpen Idea Digital Imaging Ltd

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Re: Scanner Recommendation
by Nagy Péter 23 Jul '12

23 Jul '12

Hi Louis, go for an Epson Perfection. The V500 or V600 might be a good choice for your needs. The supplied software's GUI is not up to the standards on the OS X platform, but the final image quality is stunning (from reflective originals). We recently bought a V500 and I'm perfectly satisfied with it. Kind regards, Peter Nagy Colorcom Media Budapest, Hungary

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Re: Colorsync-users Digest, Vol 9, Issue 112
by Paul Sherfield 23 Jul '12

23 Jul '12

First try the VueScan software. It works with Lion and supports a lot a scanners. Paul Sherfield The Missing Horse Consultancy Ltd 07899 906385 www.missinghorsecons.co.uk Follow us on: twitter.com/missinghorse On 23 Jul 2012, at 20:00, colorsync-users-request(a)lists.apple.com wrote: > Send Colorsync-users mailing list submissions to > colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/colorsync-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > colorsync-users-request(a)lists.apple.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > colorsync-users-owner(a)lists.apple.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Colorsync-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Scanner Recommendation (Louis Dina) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:10:03 -0500 > From: Louis Dina <lou(a)loudina.com> > To: colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com > Subject: Scanner Recommendation > Message-ID: <0037D14E-6F82-4BB7-A423-3D365E76BF62(a)loudina.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I recently moved to OSX Lion and my antiquated flatbed scanner is no longer is supported (it's tired anyway). I need an "inexpensive" desktop flatbed scanner (preferably under $200) that has reasonably good quality, Dmax, comes with software that is fairly flexible and easy to use and works with Lion. I don't do a lot of scanning any more, so please don't recommend expensive scanners. Also, I don't need to scan transparencies, just reflective material, up to legal size. > > Thanks, > > Lou > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Colorsync-users mailing list > Colorsync-users(a)lists.apple.com > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/colorsync-users > > End of Colorsync-users Digest, Vol 9, Issue 112 > ***********************************************

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Scanner recommendations
by ljackson＠together.net 23 Jul '12

23 Jul '12

I recently purchased 2 all in one Epson printer/scanner/copiers. The RX595 works like a charm, but the Artisan 710 has a huge flatbed scanner that is great too. I was copying family photos, some of which were quite large and it did a terrific job. I know you said that legal size is all that you need, but sometimes it helps to have the larger size and for about $150-199 (shop around, there are a whole range of prices) either one would meet your needs. Lois

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Scanner Recommendation
by Louis Dina 23 Jul '12

23 Jul '12

I recently moved to OSX Lion and my antiquated flatbed scanner is no longer is supported (it's tired anyway). I need an "inexpensive" desktop flatbed scanner (preferably under $200) that has reasonably good quality, Dmax, comes with software that is fairly flexible and easy to use and works with Lion. I don't do a lot of scanning any more, so please don't recommend expensive scanners. Also, I don't need to scan transparencies, just reflective material, up to legal size. Thanks, Lou

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Re: scum dot
by Peter Figen 16 Jul '12

16 Jul '12

On Jul 13, 2012, at 9:11 PM, colorsync-users-request(a)lists.apple.com wrote: > One has to wonder at times <g> Now that's just a ridiculous statement, and putting quotes around yourself grinning does not make any funnier. > > Martin’s statement that the fault is PMP profiles and they all exhibit this is nonsense however. As I stated, I’ve built hundreds of profiles with that product, for a lot of customers using all kinds of printers, operating systems, drivers etc. His simplistic and incorrect statement implies pretty strongly this is something that is anything but a rare condition. . The problem here is that you have no idea who and who is not suffering from this problem. First of all, you need to have a certain combination of events to take place, which you would have to confirm are happening, then you would have to have your clients print out test prints and look for the phenomenon. I didn't notice it at first. It was only looking at prints at an odd angle that I happened to notice. It was very very faint and was there, but unless you printed on page sizes considerably larger than your image size, you would never see it. Remember, this happens only outside image area, and it was only going from Leopard to Snow Leopard that created the problem. If you print with minimal borders like a lot of people do, you'd never ever see the problem. Hell, I even delivered prints to people who never saw it but it was there, but because they weren't using anything out of the image area, it never mattered. Again, this has nothing at all to do with rendering intents, only with a specific combination of profile, Ps and OS. > >> Oh well. For the record, every person I know making prints on a Mac with the same setup and Gretag profiles has had the same issue. > > And for the record, every customer I built profiles for didn’t. I’m not suggesting there isn’t some combo of bug that causes this. I’m suggesting that it is/was rare and to suggest GretagMacbeth/X-rite produced a product that caused this in mass, and just ignored it, that it was solely their doing doesn’t wash. Hard to say where the problem lies, but the fact is, is that it didn't occur printing from CS5 and Leopard but showed up in Snow Leopard. It seems to point the finger in the direction of Apple, but it's never as easy as all that. There may be a whole host of other factors there that only the engineers know about. I know that I sent all the information I had including profiles to a support person at X-Rite, and they didn't even acknowledge my message. I will send all that I can to Steve Upton on Monday, if I have the time to gather it all. Peter Figen

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