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Re: darwinbuild
by Finlay Dobbie 13 Nov '05

13 Nov '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IeNWKdnf60x3cg9CaNJSUpa+11+GnWQlqBuwdfNULhKtW5sJtYwwQYZb5eHF1kjZeqiuuj91MMDw4s9yTLA/OXrwLungG7TJYClzGWXSQKNKjFQrufzXv+Hn7lk5HXlKMSWRlTobMqF6eVXqacznIjdjQuKFhRh1BTCLZ5AyK2Y= On 13/11/05, Dale Walsh <dale(a)daleenterprise.com> wrote: > On Nov 13, 2005, at 12:21 , Finlay Dobbie wrote: > > On 13/11/05, Dale Walsh <dale(a)daleenterprise.com> wrote: > >> On Nov 13, 2005, at 10:13 , Shantonu Sen wrote: > >>> This is something best discussed on the darwinbuild list. > >>> > >>> <http://www.opendarwin.org/mailman/listinfo/darwinbuild> > >> > >> The darwinbuild list appears to be an inappropriate venue for the > >> issue. > > > > What makes you say that? > > They didn't write the software. What are you talking about? darwinbuild is an OpenDarwin project, written almost entirely by Kevin van Vechten and Shantonu Sen. > > Writing to the list does not mean a bug has been filed or will be > > filed. If you would like your issue to be remembered and tracked, file > > a bug. > > I see so in filing a report, someone will immediately resolve the > issue and provide a working solution. Please explain why you believe that to be a valid interpretation of what I wrote. > Because the software doesn't work properly I am unable to build > useable software and am now waiting for someone to create 0.7.3 that > works. Your attitude is not helping you achieve this goal. -- Finlay _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: darwinbuild
by Robert Schwalbe 13 Nov '05

13 Nov '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Not likely. What makes you feel entitled to useable software when all you have to contribute seems to be whining and the complete unwillingness to rectify the situation via filing a bug report? Why in the world would you expect any one to go out of their way to lend you a hand when you are so blatantly opposed to doing so in return? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… I see so in filing a report, someone will immediately resolve the issue and provide a working solution. - Finlay Because the software doesn't work properly I am unable to build useable software and am now waiting for someone to create 0.7.3 that works. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: darwinbuild
by Dale Walsh 13 Nov '05

13 Nov '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Mta-interface: amavisd-new-2.3.3 (20050822) at daleenterprise.com On Nov 13, 2005, at 12:21 , Finlay Dobbie wrote: On 13/11/05, Dale Walsh <dale(a)daleenterprise.com> wrote: On Nov 13, 2005, at 10:13 , Shantonu Sen wrote: This is something best discussed on the darwinbuild list. <http://www.opendarwin.org/mailman/listinfo/darwinbuild> They didn't write the software. You can also file a bug on darwinbuild: My bug has been filed by writing to this list. Writing to the list does not mean a bug has been filed or will be filed. If you would like your issue to be remembered and tracked, file a bug. Not likely. -- Dale _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… The darwinbuild list appears to be an inappropriate venue for the issue. What makes you say that? I see so in filing a report, someone will immediately resolve the issue and provide a working solution. - Finlay Because the software doesn't work properly I am unable to build useable software and am now waiting for someone to create 0.7.3 that works. Writing here may get a quicker solution than waiting for responses on a list or is the seriousness of this build issue something not worth pursuing in the darwin-dev world? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: darwinbuild
by Finlay Dobbie 13 Nov '05

13 Nov '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=U53zvvvX95G4iz5Nkm0b8UDLd4YMjLYT1eAUBvrK6lFIZgOGb0phqZ0D80kwwaPukL1H0j7BxoaAa+b6bPI5K00LrQoUnOJAPi4PRHNeyP9Ju66mWuWCHJpL+6xtNYqeMgS06L13MkU4gJk3zyz6Qq5gTu0NC72f+c3GjRu10EA= On 13/11/05, Dale Walsh <dale(a)daleenterprise.com> wrote: > On Nov 13, 2005, at 10:13 , Shantonu Sen wrote: > > > This is something best discussed on the darwinbuild list. > > > > <http://www.opendarwin.org/mailman/listinfo/darwinbuild> > > The darwinbuild list appears to be an inappropriate venue for the issue. What makes you say that? > > You can also file a bug on darwinbuild: > > My bug has been filed by writing to this list. Writing to the list does not mean a bug has been filed or will be filed. If you would like your issue to be remembered and tracked, file a bug. - Finlay _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: darwinbuild
by Dale Walsh 13 Nov '05

13 Nov '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Mta-interface: amavisd-new-2.3.3 (20050822) at daleenterprise.com On Nov 13, 2005, at 10:13 , Shantonu Sen wrote: This is something best discussed on the darwinbuild list. The darwinbuild list appears to be an inappropriate venue for the issue. My bug has been filed by writing to this list. <http://www.opendarwin.org/en/bugzilla/> Shantonu On Nov 13, 2005, at 2:15 AM, Dale Walsh wrote: -- Dale _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… <http://www.opendarwin.org/mailman/listinfo/darwinbuild> You can also file a bug on darwinbuild: Attempting to build darwinbuild in 10.3.9 results in a failure based on on a type conflict for readlink. There also seems to be issues with "< /dev/null" from the generated build scripts. -- Dale This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: darwinbuild
by Shantonu Sen 13 Nov '05

13 Nov '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com This is something best discussed on the darwinbuild list. <http://www.opendarwin.org/mailman/listinfo/darwinbuild> You can also file a bug on darwinbuild: <http://www.opendarwin.org/en/bugzilla/> Shantonu On Nov 13, 2005, at 2:15 AM, Dale Walsh wrote: -- Dale _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Attempting to build darwinbuild in 10.3.9 results in a failure based on on a type conflict for readlink. There also seems to be issues with "< /dev/null" from the generated build scripts. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/ssen% 40opendarwin.org This email sent to ssen(a)opendarwin.org This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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building perl
by Dale Walsh 13 Nov '05

13 Nov '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Mta-interface: amavisd-new-2.3.3 (20050822) at daleenterprise.com OS is Mac OSX 10.3.9 server, darwinbuild is 0.7.1 (0.7.2 doesn't build). I've built and installed perl-25.2.tar.gz but something isn't right. Here's a session of updating a module (Archive::Tar) cpan> r CPAN: Storable loaded ok Going to read /private/var/root/.cpan/Metadata Database was generated on Sat, 12 Nov 2005 22:45:35 GMT CPAN.pm: Going to build K/KA/KANE/Archive-Tar-1.26.tar.gz However, this utility requires you to have Text::Diff installed. cpan> o conf CPAN::Config options from /System/Library/Perl/5.8.1/CPAN/Config.pm: commit Commit changes to disk defaults Reload defaults from disk init Interactive setting of all options cpan> _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… It appears to run fine with the exception that when I install modules they're going to a bad location. If I manually move the files everything appears to function as expected and the modules are recognized however I shouldn't have to go through the extra file moves. Package namespace installed latest in CPAN file Archive::Tar 0.23 1.26 K/KA/KANE/Archive- Tar-1.26.tar.gz BerkeleyDB 0.26 0.27 P/PM/PMQS/ BerkeleyDB-0.27.tar.gz CGI 3.10 3.11 L/LD/LDS/ CGI.pm-3.11.tar.gz CPANPLUS 0.0561 0.0562 K/KA/KANE/ CPANPLUS-0.0562.tar.gz Compress::Zlib 1.37 1.41 P/PM/PMQS/Compress- Zlib-1.41.tar.gz Cwd 3.05 3.12 K/KW/KWILLIAMS/ PathTools-3.12.tar.gz DBD::File 0.33 0.34 J/JZ/JZUCKER/DBD- File-0.34.tar.gz DB_File 1.811 1.814 P/PM/PMQS/ DB_File-1.814.tar.gz Digest 1.10 1.13 G/GA/GAAS/ Digest-1.13.tar.gz Encode 2.10 2.12 D/DA/DANKOGAI/ Encode-2.12.tar.gz ExtUtils::Command 1.05 1.09 M/MS/MSCHWERN/ExtUtils- MakeMaker-6.30.tar.gz Filter::Simple 0.78 0.82 D/DC/DCONWAY/Filter- Simple-0.82.tar.gz HTML::Entities 1.29 1.32 G/GA/GAAS/HTML- Parser-3.46.tar.gz HTML::Tagset 3.04 3.10 P/PE/PETDANCE/HTML- Tagset-3.10.tar.gz IO 1.21 1.22 G/GB/GBARR/IO-1.22.tar.gz IO::String 1.06 1.07 G/GA/GAAS/IO- String-1.07.tar.gz List::Util 1.14 1.17 G/GB/GBARR/Scalar-List- Utils-1.17.tar.gz Locale::Maketext 1.09 1.10 P/PE/PETDANCE/Locale- Maketext-1.10.tar.gz MIME::Body 5.417 5.418 D/DS/DSKOLL/MIME- tools-5.418.tar.gz Pod::Checker 1.42 1.43 M/MA/MAREKR/Pod- Parser-1.34.tar.gz Storable 2.13 2.15 A/AM/AMS/ Storable-2.15.tar.gz Term::ANSIColor 1.09 1.10 R/RR/RRA/ ANSIColor-1.10.tar.gz Test::Builder 0.22 0.32 M/MS/MSCHWERN/Test- Simple-0.62.tar.gz Test::Harness 2.48 2.56 P/PE/PETDANCE/Test- Harness-2.56.tar.gz Text::Soundex 1.01 3.02 M/MA/MARKM/Text- Soundex-3.02.tar.gz Text::Tabs 98.112801 2005.0824 M/MU/MUIR/modules/Text- Tabs+Wrap-2005.0824.tar.gz Time::HiRes 1.66 1.82 J/JH/JHI/Time- HiRes-1.82.tar.gz Unicode::Collate 0.40 0.52 S/SA/SADAHIRO/Unicode- Collate-0.52.tar.gz XSLoader 0.02 0.06 S/SA/SAPER/ XSLoader-0.06.tar.gz if 0.03 0.0401 I/IL/ILYAZ/modules/ if-0.0401.tar.gz 5 installed modules have a version number of 0 98 installed modules have no parseable version number cpan> install Archive::Tar Running install for module Archive::Tar Running make for K/KA/KANE/Archive-Tar-1.26.tar.gz CPAN: Digest::MD5 loaded ok CPAN: Compress::Zlib loaded ok Checksum for /private/var/root/.cpan/sources/authors/id/K/KA/KANE/ Archive-Tar-1.26.tar.gz ok Scanning cache /private/var/root/.cpan/build for sizes Archive-Tar-1.26/ Archive-Tar-1.26/bin/ Archive-Tar-1.26/bin/ptar Archive-Tar-1.26/bin/ptardiff Archive-Tar-1.26/CHANGES Archive-Tar-1.26/lib/ Archive-Tar-1.26/lib/Archive/ Archive-Tar-1.26/lib/Archive/Tar/ Archive-Tar-1.26/lib/Archive/Tar/Constant.pm Archive-Tar-1.26/lib/Archive/Tar/File.pm Archive-Tar-1.26/lib/Archive/Tar.pm Archive-Tar-1.26/Makefile.PL Archive-Tar-1.26/MANIFEST Archive-Tar-1.26/META.yml Archive-Tar-1.26/README Archive-Tar-1.26/t/ Archive-Tar-1.26/t/01_use.t Archive-Tar-1.26/t/02_methods.t Archive-Tar-1.26/t/03_file.t Archive-Tar-1.26/t/04_resolved_issues.t Archive-Tar-1.26/t/99_pod.t Archive-Tar-1.26/t/src/ Archive-Tar-1.26/t/src/long/ Archive-Tar-1.26/t/src/long/b Archive-Tar-1.26/t/src/long/bar.tar Archive-Tar-1.26/t/src/long/foo.tgz Archive-Tar-1.26/t/src/short/ Archive-Tar-1.26/t/src/short/b Archive-Tar-1.26/t/src/short/bar.tar Archive-Tar-1.26/t/src/short/foo.tgz Removing previously used /private/var/root/.cpan/build/Archive-Tar-1.26 Archive::Tar comes with a utility called 'ptardiff' which lets you run diffs against tar archives. To add Text::Diff as a prerequisite, please supply the '-d' option when invoking this Makefile.PL. Checking if your kit is complete... Looks good Writing Makefile for Archive::Tar cp lib/Archive/Tar/Constant.pm blib/lib/Archive/Tar/Constant.pm cp lib/Archive/Tar.pm blib/lib/Archive/Tar.pm cp lib/Archive/Tar/File.pm blib/lib/Archive/Tar/File.pm cp bin/ptardiff blib/script/ptardiff /usr/local/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::MY" -e "MY->fixin(shift)" blib/ script/ptardiff cp bin/ptar blib/script/ptar /usr/local/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::MY" -e "MY->fixin(shift)" blib/ script/ptar Manifying blib/man3/Archive::Tar.3pm Manifying blib/man3/Archive::Tar::File.3pm /usr/bin/make -- OK Running make test PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /usr/local/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch')" t/*.t t/01_use................ok t/02_methods............ok t/03_file...............ok 11/178 skipped: Attributes defined, may not be plainfile t/04_resolved_issues....ok t/99_pod................skipped all skipped: Test::Pod v0.95 required for testing POD All tests successful, 1 test and 11 subtests skipped. Files=5, Tests=736, 8 wallclock secs ( 3.96 cusr + 2.66 csys = 6.62 CPU) /usr/bin/make test -- OK Running make install Installing /private/var/tmp/perl/perl-35.root/Library/Perl/5.8.1/ Archive/Tar.pm Installing /private/var/tmp/perl/perl-35.root/Library/Perl/5.8.1/ Archive/Tar/Constant.pm Installing /private/var/tmp/perl/perl-35.root/Library/Perl/5.8.1/ Archive/Tar/File.pm Installing /private/var/tmp/perl/perl-35.root/usr/local/man/man3/ Archive::Tar.3pm Installing /private/var/tmp/perl/perl-35.root/usr/local/man/man3/ Archive::Tar::File.3pm Installing /private/var/tmp/perl/perl-35.root/usr/local/bin/ptar Installing /private/var/tmp/perl/perl-35.root/usr/local/bin/ptardiff Writing /private/var/tmp/perl/perl-35.root/Library/Perl/5.8.1/darwin- thread-multi-2level/auto/Archive/Tar/.packlist Appending installation info to /private/var/tmp/perl/perl-35.root// System/Library/Perl/5.8.1/darwin-thread-multi-2level/perllocal.pod /usr/bin/make install -- OK build_cache 100 build_dir /private/var/root/.cpan/build cache_metadata 1 cpan_home /private/var/root/.cpan dontload_hash ftp /usr/bin/ftp ftp_proxy getcwd cwd gpg gzip /usr/bin/gzip histfile /private/var/root/.cpan/histfile histsize 1000 http_proxy inactivity_timeout 0 index_expire 1 inhibit_startup_message 0 keep_source_where /private/var/root/.cpan/sources lynx make /usr/bin/make make_arg make_install_arg makepl_arg ncftp ncftpget no_proxy pager /usr/bin/less prerequisites_policy ask scan_cache atstart shell /bin/sh tar /usr/bin/tar term_is_latin 1 unzip /usr/bin/unzip urllist ftp://cpan.llarian.net/pub/CPAN/ ftp://cpan.mirrors.redwire.net/pub/CPAN/ ftp://cpan.mirrors.tds.net/pub/CPAN ftp://cpan.netnitco.net/pub/mirrors/CPAN/ ftp://cpan.pair.com/pub/CPAN/ ftp://cpan.teleglobe.net/pub/CPAN ftp://cpan.thepirtgroup.com/ ftp://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/CPAN ftp://ftp-mirror.internap.com/pub/CPAN/ ftp://ftp.ccs.neu.edu/net/mirrors/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/ perl/CPAN/ ftp://ftp.cise.ufl.edu/pub/mirrors/CPAN/ ftp://ftp.cpanel.net/pub/CPAN/ ftp://ftp.cs.colorado.edu/pub/perl/CPAN/ ftp://ftp.dc.aleron.net/pub/CPAN/ ftp://ftp.duke.edu/pub/perl/ ftp://ftp.epix.net/pub/languages/perl/ wget This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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darwinbuild
by Dale Walsh 13 Nov '05

13 Nov '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Mta-interface: amavisd-new-2.3.3 (20050822) at daleenterprise.com -- Dale _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Attempting to build darwinbuild in 10.3.9 results in a failure based on on a type conflict for readlink. There also seems to be issues with "< /dev/null" from the generated build scripts. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Darwin 8.3 Source Code Available
by Dale Walsh 13 Nov '05

13 Nov '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Mta-interface: amavisd-new-2.3.3 (20050822) at daleenterprise.com -- Dale _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Attempting to build darwinbuild in 10.3.9 results in a failure based on on a type conflict for readlink. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: pthreads and CF runloops (possibly slightly OT)
by j o a r 12 Nov '05

12 Nov '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On 12 nov 2005, at 16.20, Hado Hein wrote: Although off-topic for this list: j o a r _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com I want to jump in here. One thing (apparently more in Aqua ;-) is that I have in mind only to draw from the main thread (aka AppRunLoop). Do I understand the above right in the way that a secondary thread could append some source to the main loop and let the main loop then execute some drawing (which it is not allowed in its own thread). You are allowed to draw from secondary threads if you just follow some simple rules: <http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/ Multithreading/articles/CocoaSafety.html> That said, you can of course also do what you suggest, and leave all the drawing to the main thread. smime.p7s

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