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Marklar project question
by plumber Idraulico 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dharma project ? yes or no Dharma project ? official or not official _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Is AppleMacRISC4PE supposed to build at all ?
by Benjamin Herrenschmidt 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 14:43 +0000, Finlay Dobbie wrote: > On 06/12/05, Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh(a)kernel.crashing.org> wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 01:27 -0500, Dale Walsh wrote: > > > On Dec 6, 2005, at 24:34 , Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > > I've downloaded AppleMacRISC4PE-180.0.34 from Darwin 8.3 and tried to > > > > build it with Xcode 2.1 (the version that comes with OS X 10.4.3 on a > > > > Quad G5 just delivered) and I get about 18 errors, mostly things not > > > > declared in the proper scope. > > > > > > > > Did I miss something ? > > > > > > Yes, missing header files. > > > > Thanks, but how am I supposed to install those header files ? Or are > > they missing from the Darwin distribution ? > > Assuming nothing has changed in this department since > AppleMacRISC4PE-162.0.0 (10.4.2), some source has been deliberately > omitted from the project. If you try and force it to build past those > errors, which may be the ones referring to kIOPPluginForceUpdateKey > etc being undeclared, you'll encounter more undelcared constants > (relating to the operation of the U3 northbridge, and possibly > others). > > Last I heard, these are not available and are not likely to be made available. Ok, that was my understanding, though I wondered if those bits were available somewhere else. The funny thing is almost all of these definitions seem to be very easily reconstructed by disassembling the binary AppleMacRISC4PE, I really don't understand Apple's point in hiding half of it like that .. Ben. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Is AppleMacRISC4PE supposed to build at all ?
by Dale Walsh 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Mta-interface: amavisd-new-2.3.3 (20050822) at daleenterprise.com On Dec 6, 2005, at 09:43 , Finlay Dobbie wrote: Thanks, but how am I supposed to install those header files ? Or are they missing from the Darwin distribution ? Assuming nothing has changed in this department since AppleMacRISC4PE-162.0.0 (10.4.2), some source has been deliberately omitted from the project. If you try and force it to build past those errors, which may be the ones referring to kIOPPluginForceUpdateKey etc being undeclared, you'll encounter more undelcared constants (relating to the operation of the U3 northbridge, and possibly others). This statement is so very wrong. -- Dale _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… On 06/12/05, Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh(a)kernel.crashing.org> wrote: On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 01:27 -0500, Dale Walsh wrote: On Dec 6, 2005, at 24:34 , Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: I've downloaded AppleMacRISC4PE-180.0.34 from Darwin 8.3 and tried to build it with Xcode 2.1 (the version that comes with OS X 10.4.3 on a Quad G5 just delivered) and I get about 18 errors, mostly things not declared in the proper scope. Did I miss something ? Yes, missing header files. Last I heard, these are not available and are not likely to be made available. If you can build the project using darwinbuild then you can build the project alone. -- Finlay This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Is AppleMacRISC4PE supposed to build at all ?
by Finlay Dobbie 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UJ5tZ6zAAz6dpcSohvyHnhN1eaYt6k9nnKPxzml/56REZL3GFhwjafsTT16PBun5ZxcuRjPaaryOEeW/x1EvpvUpfUyOGd2A/kZNhTxU/6SbIyJIFHfo+dsRw7pskiVDdEn4mmiE6OOj7gBTBUXAL23Edqt7b1hpOjJm79jEgV0= On 06/12/05, Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh(a)kernel.crashing.org> wrote: > On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 01:27 -0500, Dale Walsh wrote: > > On Dec 6, 2005, at 24:34 , Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > I've downloaded AppleMacRISC4PE-180.0.34 from Darwin 8.3 and tried to > > > build it with Xcode 2.1 (the version that comes with OS X 10.4.3 on a > > > Quad G5 just delivered) and I get about 18 errors, mostly things not > > > declared in the proper scope. > > > > > > Did I miss something ? > > > > Yes, missing header files. > > Thanks, but how am I supposed to install those header files ? Or are > they missing from the Darwin distribution ? Assuming nothing has changed in this department since AppleMacRISC4PE-162.0.0 (10.4.2), some source has been deliberately omitted from the project. If you try and force it to build past those errors, which may be the ones referring to kIOPPluginForceUpdateKey etc being undeclared, you'll encounter more undelcared constants (relating to the operation of the U3 northbridge, and possibly others). Last I heard, these are not available and are not likely to be made available. -- Finlay _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: glibtool question
by plumber Idraulico 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi, Peter imagine something like this $SDK_DARWIN8 here libSystem.dylib with _newsymbol $SDK_DARWIN7 here libSystem.dylib if don't want that your configure script catchs _newsymbol you have to make something like that ./configure CC="${CC} $SDK_DARWIN7/usr/lib/libSystem.dylib" i've made my own tool now i can compile against these targets from (Tiger-ppc) gcc-3.5 ( without lmx ) -> /Developer/SDKs/Darwin7u.sdk arch x86 -> /Developer/SDKs/Darwin7u.sdk arch ppc (including X11 FAT) gcc-4 -> /Developer/SDKs/Darwin8u.sdk arch x86 -> /Developer/SDKs/Darwin8u.sdk arch ppc (including X11 FAT) gcc-4 -> /Developer/SDKs/Darwin8u.sdk arch x86 -> /Developer/SDKs/Darwin8u.sdk arch ppc _m.o foo.c imac:~/foo peter$ cc -fno-pic -c -o foo_nopic.o foo.c ... ld: foo_nopic.o has local relocation entries in non-writable section yes i've tested but it wasn't clear i've misunderstood about PIC (position independent code) in fact, i made this (automatically without really understand) it's for my culture :) ok , so i can sum like that --NOT NEED PIC-- ar rc libMy.a *.non-pic.o gcc -dynamiclib *.pic.o \ -install_name /usr/local/lib/ libMyOther.1.dylib \ -compatibility_version 1 -current_version 1.3 -o libMyOther.1.0.dylib \ -lz ./libMy.a --NEED PIC-- ar rc libMy.a *.pic.o gcc \ -dynamiclib \ -undefined suppress \ -flat_namespace \ -single_module \ -all_load ./libMy.a \ -install_name /usr/local/lib/libMy.1.dylib \ -compatibility_version 1 -current_version 1.3 -o libMy.1.0.dylib \ -lz _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… I just committed changes to gnu libtool to allow the -isysroot flag through to gcc unmolested. However I did do some work on older libtool-1.5.x ... CC="cc -arch ppc -arch i386 -isysroot=/path" CXX="c++ -arch ppc -arch i386 -isysroot=/path" CPP="cc -E" CXXCPP="g++ -E" Note that you need an automake newer than Apple ships. Latest is 1.9.6, I think 1.8.2 or so started adding the --tag argument for glibtool. yes i'm right with u but it's not yet very useful ( i've already updated ) (and many projects are not well maintained missing makefile.am configure.in ..... ( not in CVS ???)) now you have an application configure that tests _newsymbol or not (conditionnal) to force configure-test to catch only the symbols in this lib there are many others examples it's for that i said "it's not yet very useful" ( i don't explain here the problems with the linkage of some lib like that ../../../libmy.dylib ... CC="${CC} $PROJECT_SDK/usr/lib/libSystem.dylib $PROJECT_SDK/usr/lib/ libmx.dylib ${LD_X86}" ) in fact is useful for me because i've stopped to run darwin-x86 with my freeBSD ( i need it for my work ) so i can compile in local from the OSX-ppc and test on the gnu- darwinx86 server This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Is AppleMacRISC4PE supposed to build at all ?
by plumber Idraulico 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/iokit/IOKit/IOCPU.h?v=DARWIN8 IOKIT in your kernel framework src/xnu/iokit/IOKit/IOCPU.h _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Is AppleMacRISC4PE supposed to build at all ?
by Benjamin Herrenschmidt 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 01:27 -0500, Dale Walsh wrote: > On Dec 6, 2005, at 24:34 , Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > Hi ! > > > > I've downloaded AppleMacRISC4PE-180.0.34 from Darwin 8.3 and tried to > > build it with Xcode 2.1 (the version that comes with OS X 10.4.3 on a > > Quad G5 just delivered) and I get about 18 errors, mostly things not > > declared in the proper scope. > > > > Did I miss something ? > > Yes, missing header files. Thanks, but how am I supposed to install those header files ? Or are they missing from the Darwin distribution ? Thanks ! Ben. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Is AppleMacRISC4PE supposed to build at all ?
by Dale Walsh 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Mta-interface: amavisd-new-2.3.3 (20050822) at daleenterprise.com On Dec 6, 2005, at 24:34 , Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: Hi ! I've downloaded AppleMacRISC4PE-180.0.34 from Darwin 8.3 and tried to build it with Xcode 2.1 (the version that comes with OS X 10.4.3 on a Quad G5 just delivered) and I get about 18 errors, mostly things not declared in the proper scope. Yes, missing header files. Regards, Ben. -- Dale _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Did I miss something ? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: GCC:Nested Function Support
by Andre Smith 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

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Is AppleMacRISC4PE supposed to build at all ?
by Benjamin Herrenschmidt 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi ! I've downloaded AppleMacRISC4PE-180.0.34 from Darwin 8.3 and tried to build it with Xcode 2.1 (the version that comes with OS X 10.4.3 on a Quad G5 just delivered) and I get about 18 errors, mostly things not declared in the proper scope. Did I miss something ? Regards, Ben. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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