April 2005 - Darwin-dev - lists.apple.com

Re: Where can I find developer docs on launchd/launchctl
by Shawn Erickson 29 Apr '05

29 Apr '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Apr 29, 2005, at 8:01 AM, Shawn Erickson wrote: On Apr 29, 2005, at 5:27 AM, robert delius royar wrote: If you have the developer tools installed... You may want to link to this... <feed://developer.apple.com/rss/referencelibrary.rss> -Shawn _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… I just got my retail version of the new system from the Apple Store. I have found that some of my old /Library/StartupItems will not run. I assume I need to migrate these to launchd. Where would I look, what search terms should I use to find documentation on system startup for 10.4? <file:///Developer/ADC%20Reference%20Library/documentation/MacOSX/ Conceptual/BPSystemStartup/Articles/LaunchOnDemandDaemons.html> By the way spotlight found the above for me when I typed in "launchd". :-) Expect Apple's developer website to start having Tiger things popup over the next few days now that it has officially been launched. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Where can I find developer docs on launchd/launchctl
by Shawn Erickson 29 Apr '05

29 Apr '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Apr 29, 2005, at 5:27 AM, robert delius royar wrote: If you have the developer tools installed... - Shawn _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… I just got my retail version of the new system from the Apple Store. I have found that some of my old /Library/StartupItems will not run. I assume I need to migrate these to launchd. Where would I look, what search terms should I use to find documentation on system startup for 10.4? <file:///Developer/ADC%20Reference%20Library/documentation/MacOSX/ Conceptual/BPSystemStartup/Articles/LaunchOnDemandDaemons.html> This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Where can I find developer docs on launchd/launchctl
by robert delius royar 29 Apr '05

29 Apr '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Organization: An Apple OS X end user Priority: NEW -- Dr. Robert Delius Royar Associate Professor of English Morehead State University Morehead, Kentucky _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… I just got my retail version of the new system from the Apple Store. I have found that some of my old /Library/StartupItems will not run. I assume I need to migrate these to launchd. Where would I look, what search terms should I use to find documentation on system startup for 10.4? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: authopen source code and -stdoutpipe usage
by Dan Bernstein 28 Apr '05

28 Apr '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kdqBCzIt3GX7MGpnEqwcPwM2FEV3AMCS9sCgFOBUNQgxwaaW02qY2aRTXZicYDSVMUfsLwgvWCNi5lD94fe5o7rPzoHMAh66Q1NshHQZlJsIwCoVhADm1yt/POKmutoJIfH/wJ7V4gmh7A4VVQoCKl2FBvmFzCs7hydyi9izNHQ= On 4/16/05, Soren Spies <sspies(a)apple.com> wrote: > Here's an example authopen() function with support (apologies that I'm > cribbing this together from various sources; it does compile :): Thank you very much! _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: gc
by Lance Westerhoff 27 Apr '05

27 Apr '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi Bill- -Lance ____________________ Lance M. Westerhoff Chief Software Engineer QuantumBio Inc. WWW: http://www.quantumbioinc.com Email: lance(a)quantumbioinc.com AIM: lance(a)mac.com On Apr 27, 2005, at 12:50 PM, W. R. Wing wrote: At the suggestion of someone on another list that this would be the better list to post my question to, and with apologies to anyone who sees both, - One of our UNIX programmers is starting on a project I'm partially funding to port SecurID services to OS X. She is working with people from RSA and has previously ported the same stuff to AIX and others. She almost immediately ran into a brick wall, as noted below. I find it hard to believe that there isn't a work around, since the error message seems, on its face, to be pretty fundamental. Anyone here know of a solution? Thanks, Bill Subject: Re: gc From: "Sally A. Silvia" <xxxxxxxxxx> To: "W. R. Wing" <wrw(a)ornl.gov> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:19:39 -0400 HI Bill, This is what I'd hoped to find - the GNU C libraries (aka glibc) for Darwin. This particular project never got off the ground. The error encountered when building glibc from scratch on the mac is: *** The GNU C library is currently not available for this platform. *** So far nobody cared to port it and if there is no volunteer it *** might never happen. So, if you have interest to see glibc on *** this platform visit *** http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/porting.html *** and join the group of porters Sally -- _ /~\ The ASCII | William R. Wing, PhD. wrw(a)ornl.gov 865-574-8839 \ / Ribbon Campaign | Network Architect, Oak Ridge National Laboratory X Against HTML | Network Research Group, Computer Sci & Math Div. / \ Email! |_________ _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/lance%40mac.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… As the person who sent you to this list in the first place, now that I have been able to take a better look at your question, I've got to ask: Just out of curiosity, did she try to link against simply libc on the Darwin box in place of glibc? If she already ported the code to AIX, the source should be fairly non-platform specific already. http://sourceforge.net/projects/glibc-darwin/ This email sent to lance(a)mac.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Re: gc
by Finlay Dobbie 27 Apr '05

27 Apr '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VzmVIylyLXOLu4KjjmHQosdm4LvUIchcZjR1dlIvk56D+Qc1Pu59VmGx/3i+0plaPvEfJ1i0VaNDiYj/zc5k/nqCi4e5LOHZWc9KrhEnerIp/HRSb46PyGQmvIpvoG1d/P3Oq9luDVsuHYBf/c8gUeUT84mgxCG1uwpwBpwC2AE= On 4/27/05, W. R. Wing <wrw(a)ornl.gov> wrote: > Anyone here know of a solution? Don't use the non-portable functions in glibc? -- Finlay _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Fwd: Re: gc
by W. R. Wing 27 Apr '05

27 Apr '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com At the suggestion of someone on another list that this would be the better list to post my question to, and with apologies to anyone who sees both, - One of our UNIX programmers is starting on a project I'm partially funding to port SecurID services to OS X. She is working with people from RSA and has previously ported the same stuff to AIX and others. She almost immediately ran into a brick wall, as noted below. I find it hard to believe that there isn't a work around, since the error message seems, on its face, to be pretty fundamental. Anyone here know of a solution? Thanks, Bill Subject: Re: gc From: "Sally A. Silvia" <xxxxxxxxxx> To: "W. R. Wing" <wrw(a)ornl.gov> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:19:39 -0400 HI Bill, This is what I'd hoped to find - the GNU C libraries (aka glibc) for Darwin. This particular project never got off the ground. The error encountered when building glibc from scratch on the mac is: *** The GNU C library is currently not available for this platform. *** So far nobody cared to port it and if there is no volunteer it *** might never happen. So, if you have interest to see glibc on *** this platform visit *** http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/porting.html *** and join the group of porters Sally -- _ /~\ The ASCII | William R. Wing, PhD. wrw(a)ornl.gov 865-574-8839 \ / Ribbon Campaign | Network Architect, Oak Ridge National Laboratory X Against HTML | Network Research Group, Computer Sci & Math Div. / \ Email! |_________ _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… http://sourceforge.net/projects/glibc-darwin/ This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Moshe Klausner/Haifa/IBM is out of the office.
by Moshe Klausner 25 Apr '05

25 Apr '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com I will be out of the office starting 04/24/2005 and will not return until 05/02/2005. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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shm max size / system shm amount
by appledisclose＠batchmaker.de 25 Apr '05

25 Apr '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Organization: handmade ! User-agent: MacSOUP/D-2.5 (Mac OS X version 10.3.8) For a complex project I need 512byte chunks of shm, probably roundabout 200 upto 1000 of these. When trying I recognized that there is a size limit on the shm. (The usual big chunks start failing first). Is the a place where the shm max size / system shm amount are set. Ongoing, as far as I read, this is userspace shm. If I'd want to do the same in the kernel : What would I use if I'd need these amounts of shared mem to userland. thx, -- Hado Hein, Berlin, Fed.Rep. of Germany http://www.batchmaker.de (software authoring, including stage lighting) _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Questions about dyld and dynamic C++ classes.
by Derick Centeno 25 Apr '05

25 Apr '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Apr 19, 2005, at 2:41 AM, Matt Watson wrote: On Apr 18, 2005, at 11:16 PM, Ness Joumaa wrote: I have no idea what dynamic C++ classes are. Best wishes... _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… What is the difference between using dyld to add dynamic code to a library and using dynamic C++ classes instead? Is loading it through dynamic C++ classes platform dependent? And lastly, how do I create a dynamic library with Xcode? Most Darwin-like systems (including Darwin) have standardized on the dlopen(3) interfaces. As to how XCode creates dynamic libraries, you should probably ask on another list. Down here we use libtool or $(CC) -dynamiclib. matt. Hi Ness: You might keep in mind that everything in programming environments is about context in regards to the task at hand therefore what companies such as Apple choose as their programming environments may be different across different departments even within the same company as the tasks are different. Sometimes complexities do lead to more complexities... think of the Mandelbrot and Julia fractal sets for example, the wholes and parts may inter-relate but the scales sure are different and the borders upon close examination sure doesn't appear anything in likeness to the road which got us there. I don't want to belabor the point, but Matt's reply to you is contextual to what is going on in his department at Apple. His referral to you to a different list is probably good advice. However, before you leave (you may already be there and not review this note) I thought I could point out to you that there are a few pages discussing Dynamic Libraries which you may wish to refer to. The discussion appears within the Linux Programming Bible by John Goerzen between pp. 260-270. According to it, you may have been referring to the dynamic loader or dynamic linker which refers to tools inclusive in the C language. In C, the static and "dynamic" libraries are invoked by the programmer specifically. However, C++ is designed such that it invokes libraries it uses itself truly dynamically which is why it is considered a better C and a safer --- more complete --- environment to do C programming in. Reviewing the work of Bruce Eckel (his website has online books which are dowloadable) and other C++ luminaries could be useful in ferreting out the actual details you are searching an answer for. Unfortunately, many people consider such nuances a philosophical issue rather than a practical programming issue. I think real differences do exist however, I don't have the skill to explain them sufficiently. I have merely worked or investigated with both languages to have noticed that the differences of what "dynamic" means in C and C++ for myself. Much about programming is a personal experience as unique as determining what one wishes to eat at a particular time. I hope if nothing else, this note was a pointer to a fruitful direction. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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