September 2005 - Darwin-dev

Re: Replacing launchd
by Graham J Lee 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Macintosh/20050716) On Sep 29, 2005, at 3:57 PM, Graham J Lee wrote: Cheers, Graham. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Dave Zarzycki wrote: OK, well if it *will* work then I'll get on to testing. I suppose I was unjustly worried - even if WindowServer doesn't come up properly then at least getty ought to.... Just remember, Command-S will boot you up into single user mode, where you should be able to fix most mistakes. Failing that, you'll need a second partition or disk to boot from to undo mistakes. Thanks. As it turned out I didn't need to be so paranoid - it worked well. This iBook is now running a variety of launchd which will not run a job if NotOnBattery is true and the system is found to be powered from the battery. There's a patch at Radar# 4281025 and at http://bugzilla.opendarwin.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5200 (which I've assigned to myself - I don't know whether that's what I was supposed to do but as I'd fixed the bug I guessed it was ;-). This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: FLICK IDL compiler..
by Ken Wieschhoff 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com (Forgive me, I'm still learning my way around FreeBSD) I did the following commands: autoconf ./configure --build=local make [Billions of warnings later...] /usr/bin/ld: Undefined symbols: _in_aoi Thanks for any help.... ->Ken Ken, Can you post a log showing the linker bug and we'll take a stab at it? On 29-Sep-05, at 1:21 PM, Ken Wieschhoff wrote: Failing that, is there any other IDL compiler available? ->Ken -- - -- Ken Wieschhoff (770)813-0231 *************************** _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/cliff_russell%40atimi.com This email sent to cliff_russell(a)atimi.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/weesh%40mindspring.com -- - -- Ken Wieschhoff (770)813-0231 *************************** _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… "g++ -L../../../lib -o flick-c-pbe-iiop \ bcopy_opts.o cli.o continue.o iiop_mapping_reference.o iiop_prefix_params.o marshal.o misc.o msg_marshal.o mu_array.o mu_make_client_mu_state.o mu_make_target_mu_state.o mu_mapping_stub_call.o serv.o server_main.o -lflick-c-pbe -lflick-pres_c -lflick-cast -lflick-meta -lflick-aoi -lflick-mint -lflick-compiler" At 6:55 PM -0700 9/29/05, Cliff Russell wrote: Has anyone on this list been successful building FLICK ( http://www.cs.utah.edu/flux/flick/ ) under Mac OS X? I have one linker bug I'm not able to track down, thought someone on the list might have a clue. This email sent to weesh(a)mindspring.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: FLICK IDL compiler..
by Craig Rodrigues 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i On Thu, Sep 29, 2005 at 04:21:04PM -0400, Ken Wieschhoff wrote: > Has anyone on this list been successful building FLICK ( > http://www.cs.utah.edu/flux/flick/ ) under Mac OS X? I have one > linker bug I'm not able to track down, thought someone on the list > might have a clue. Any reason you want to use Flick? Do you want to specifically work with CORBA IDL? I know some of the people who worked on Flick at U of Utah and it is not an actively maintained project, since it was done many years ago, and the project/research is completed. A lot of the Flick optimizations were rolled back into the TAO IDL compiler a long time ago. You can get TAO (which compiles on MacOS X) from http://www.theaceorb.com/downloads/ Another CORBA IDL compiler which I like a lot is the one that comes with OmniORB ( http://omniorb.sourceforge.net ). The CORBA ORB is in C++, but the IDL compiler is written in Python (but generates C++ stubs). -- Craig Rodrigues rodrigc(a)crodrigues.org _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: FLICK IDL compiler..
by Peter O'Gorman 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Macintosh/20050317) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ken Wieschhoff wrote: | Has anyone on this list been successful building FLICK ( | http://www.cs.utah.edu/flux/flick/ ) under Mac OS X? I have one linker | bug I'm not able to track down, thought someone on the list might have a | clue. | | Failing that, is there any other IDL compiler available? Seems to be the common symbols are not included in archive table of contents thing. Use "ranlib -c" instead of ranlib. Hasn't finished building though.... Peter -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBQzysVbiDAg3OZTLPAQLXMgP+PBvMhiPP/9JXHfwyviVO6xqla+XPz78i RSwW0FoKBQ41awT/hUaWSg7jZtRZsrsS0jOHwL6MUwKclsXj2EHBDOQ+TjSMPDdf yywl6BbnyoSQ8bOqULHo/J8c9qmNKAICVDuG/cRjmVlhv1VO3+DNOCjh7iafQ3+a ECR9WWSGpRI= =D2FQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: FLICK IDL compiler..
by Timothy J. Wood 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Sep 29, 2005, at 1:21 PM, Ken Wieschhoff wrote: -tim _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Has anyone on this list been successful building FLICK ( http:// www.cs.utah.edu/flux/flick/ ) under Mac OS X? I have one linker bug I'm not able to track down, thought someone on the list might have a clue. Could you post a log of the steps you've taken so far? 'configure' doesn't even work for me. Also, the INSTALL file says they use gcc 2.7.x; not terribly promising. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: FLICK IDL compiler..
by Cliff Russell 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Ken, Can you post a log showing the linker bug and we'll take a stab at it? On 29-Sep-05, at 1:21 PM, Ken Wieschhoff wrote: Failing that, is there any other IDL compiler available? ->Ken This email sent to cliff_russell(a)atimi.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Has anyone on this list been successful building FLICK ( http:// www.cs.utah.edu/flux/flick/ ) under Mac OS X? I have one linker bug I'm not able to track down, thought someone on the list might have a clue. -- - -- Ken Wieschhoff (770)813-0231 *************************** _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/cliff_russell% 40atimi.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Replacing launchd
by Dave Zarzycki 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Sep 29, 2005, at 3:57 PM, Graham J Lee wrote: davez _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… OK, well if it *will* work then I'll get on to testing. I suppose I was unjustly worried - even if WindowServer doesn't come up properly then at least getty ought to.... Just remember, Command-S will boot you up into single user mode, where you should be able to fix most mistakes. Failing that, you'll need a second partition or disk to boot from to undo mistakes. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Replacing launchd
by Graham J Lee 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Macintosh/20050716) On Sep 29, 2005, at 1:39 PM, Dave Zarzycki wrote: Full is the operative word. Sounds like a challenge... :-) Cheers, Graham. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… Jason Townsend wrote: It'll work, but it won't be full. I doubt you'll notice the difference though. OK, well if it *will* work then I'll get on to testing. I suppose I was unjustly worried - even if WindowServer doesn't come up properly then at least getty ought to.... [...] You may want to not apply the first part of that patch if you intend to browse /Network in the Finder at all. Don't worry, I haven't. Not that I actually use the network services locator, I tried disabling it on my real life network (~40 Tiger macs sharing a subnet with ~1000 Windows,Linux,Solaris boxen) and all it did was make life less confusing :-) This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Replacing launchd
by Jason Townsend 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Full is the operative word. davez On Sep 29, 2005, at 11:57 AM, Graham J Lee wrote: Hi, -Jason _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… On Sep 29, 2005, at 1:39 PM, Dave Zarzycki wrote: It'll work, but it won't be full. I doubt you'll notice the difference though. I've been playing with launchd and have compiled a new version (it can veto jobs if the system's running off a battery). Obviously I've had to build it from the Darwin source, so I've had to #ifdef out a chunk of code...see http://release.opendarwin.org/release/ 8.2.1/Sources/launchd-106-darwin.patch The question is, before I hose either of my machines, could a launchd with that patch above applied actually boot a full Tiger? Has anyone tried it? You may want to not apply the first part of that patch if you intend to browse /Network in the Finder at all. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Replacing launchd
by Dave Zarzycki 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com Full is the operative word. davez On Sep 29, 2005, at 11:57 AM, Graham J Lee wrote: Hi, Thanks, Graham. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/zarzycki%40apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Darwin-dev mailing list (Darwin-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/darwin-dev/site_archiver%40lists.app… It'll work, but it won't be full. I doubt you'll notice the difference though. I've been playing with launchd and have compiled a new version (it can veto jobs if the system's running off a battery). Obviously I've had to build it from the Darwin source, so I've had to #ifdef out a chunk of code...see http://release.opendarwin.org/release/ 8.2.1/Sources/launchd-106-darwin.patch The question is, before I hose either of my machines, could a launchd with that patch above applied actually boot a full Tiger? Has anyone tried it? This email sent to zarzycki(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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